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As expected good number of Jatavs and Yadavs are not voting Cycle and Hathi respectively, Inefficient vote transfer due to old grudge and expected outcome, people are not ready to vote enemy even when their leader asked so. Muslims though are voting in a single block for first time(in recent memory) in UP instead of going 3 way.

Something to cheer for BJP but I still have doubts over any significant gains for BJP, their campaign is not effective in UP, it's all voluntary support of common man otherwise BJP gave up UP long back it seems. No optimization like 2017 assembly elections, otherwise they may have won above 60.
 
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Now comes the voting preference, for both SP and BSP core voters (Jatav and Yadav) BJP is 2nd choice and not BSP or SP, this will have effect on seats where they can't find their own party candidate. Both Yadav and Jatav were bitter enemy how much can they accommodate each other is yet to be seen, don't get fooled by by-elections. They may vote reluctantly or BJP or sit home after seeing it won't stop Modi either way. Mostly Yadav will be hesitant to press "Hathi" symbol which haunted them during Maya's rule. I have seen people going to vote for someone but when inside booth looking at symbols and names their sense of loyalty and betrayal overpowers them, happens alot in rural areas.
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What did I say? I have never been into active politics, though very observant and have seen many elections too closely right from my childhood, what surprises me that 2 former CM (Maya and Akhilesh) can miss this! Its very basic of politics, Mulayam knew this and he was very unhappy and once couldn't stop but said it open that Akhilesh is destroying party by fighting on so less seats. This was the reason why SP was wiped out in assembly elections, the man is so disconnected from ground reality that he himself was responsible for loss of around 40-50 seats by denying tickets to Shivpal supporters and destroying carefully crafted caste arithmetic of candidates.

Akhilesh has gone to blaming EVM instead of introspecting what he did. He not only revived almost dead opponent Mayawati but also have her half UP uncontested on platter. With age on his side and only 2 years out of power what was his "majboori" to commit this harakiri! In a race to extinction now it feels Akhilesh will end SP before public can end Mayawati. He feels more and more stupid with every election and his results are catastrophic, can he destroy SP before Rahul destroy Congress? That should be interesting thing to watch. He started with solid 35% votes on caste and religious basis and see where he has taken SP!
 
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What did I say? I have never been into active politics, though very observant and have seen many elections too closely right from my childhood, what surprises me that 2 former CM (Maya and Akhilesh) can miss this! Its very basic of politics, Mulayam knew this and he was very unhappy and once couldn't stop but said it open that Akhilesh is destroying party by fighting on so less seats. This was the reason why SP was wiped out in assembly elections, the man is so disconnected from ground reality that he himself was responsible for loss of around 40-50 seats by denying tickets to Shivpal supporters and destroying carefully crafted caste arithmetic of candidates.

Akhilesh has gone to blaming EVM instead of introspecting what he did. He not only revived almost dead opponent Mayawati but also have her half UP uncontested on platter. With age on his side and only 2 years out of power what was his "majboori" to commit this harakiri! In a race to extinction now it feels Akhilesh will end SP before public can end Mayawati. He feels more and more stupid with every election and his results are catastrophic, can he destroy SP before Rahul destroy Congress? That should be interesting thing to watch. He started with solid 35% votes on caste and religious basis and see where he has taken SP!
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I say good riddance. These regional parties particularly are more dangerous for the federal structure of India for they tend to manifest the worst tendencies of everything that is bad about Indian politics namely - casteism, nepotism, corruption, crony capitalism, etc. Both SP & BSP are manifestations of this trend.
 
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I say good riddance. These regional parties particularly are more dangerous for the federal structure of India for they tend to manifest the worst tendencies of everything that is bad about Indian politics namely - casteism, nepotism, corruption, crony capitalism, etc. Both SP & BSP are manifestations of this trend.
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But national parties are always busy in fighting elections, don't have time for regional issues and look after the people and their problems. This is what created space for regional parties and it's actually good.

Some electoral reform limiting National parties to Loksabha and regional parties to state assembly should be implemented. You can have one not everything, this will limit the time wasted by PM and Union Cabinet in state elections that serves no purpose for union and local parties will get rid of incumbency/anti incumbency and issues of central and can push agenda of state.

Demarcation is very much needed. Also only 2 elections should be held in 5 years. Every 2.5 years where state goes to poll and other states goes to poll with LS election cycle. In case of no majority 2.5yrs of govt rule and state goes to poll in next cycle. People will choose stable governments and also a mid term like concept will tell center (their allies) which way wind is blowing and course correction is needed or not.

This won't need extending session of any state assembly too much, they all fall nearby LS Polls or in middle. One election in 5yrs is not a feasible concept due to instability and other practical reasons, that way people's wish is respected and a incentive for choosing stable goverment will also be there.
 
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29th April. Have you guys planned anything? After all Bombay is your favorite playground.
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Well you never know. But when Mumbai gets hit it means Bollywood will scream and when them scream entire world pays attention. But I was trying to find videos of your channels on what people of Mumbai think these days. Who they want to vote for specially the youth but couldn't find much on your main channels. So if you have videos please post and tag me.
 
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Well you never know. But when Mumbai gets hit it means Bollywood will scream and when them scream entire world pays attention. But I was trying to find videos of your channels on what people of Mumbai think these days. Who they want to vote for specially the youth but couldn't find much on your main channels. So if you have videos please post and tag me.
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Modi and your favorites Shiv Sena will sweep the polls.
 
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Well you never know. But when Mumbai gets hit it means Bollywood will scream and when them scream entire world pays attention. me.
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I would sincerely urge you to try it. In spite of the Islamic taboo on usury, I promise you, or rather Modi will ensure similar treatment for Karachi. With compounded interest. Plus a bonus for all your wannabe stars and singers here too working for loose change which in turn helps them build castles in Lahore, Karachi & elsewhere given the exchange rate.


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But I was trying to find videos of your channels on what people of Mumbai think these days. Who they want to vote for specially the youth but couldn't find much on your main channels. So if you have videos please post and tag me.
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No such videos specifically. But I'd venture advantage BJP / SS with maybe a seat or 2 going to the Congress / NCP combine.
 
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I would sincerely urge you to try it. In spite of the Islamic taboo on usury, I promise you, or rather Modi will ensure similar treatment for Karachi. With compounded interest. Plus a bonus for all your wannabe stars and singers here too working for loose change which in turn helps them build castles in Lahore, Karachi & elsewhere given the exchange rate.




No such videos specifically. But I'd venture advantage BJP / SS with maybe a seat or 2 going to the Congress / NCP combine.
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I assure you if you try something on Karachi than from Mumbai to Goa to Bangleruru all will get evaporated.
 
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I would sincerely urge you to try it. In spite of the Islamic taboo on usury, I promise you, or rather Modi will ensure similar treatment for Karachi. With compounded interest. Plus a bonus for all your wannabe stars and singers here too working for loose change which in turn helps them build castles in Lahore, Karachi & elsewhere given the exchange rate.




No such videos specifically. But I'd venture advantage BJP / SS with maybe a seat or 2 going to the Congress / NCP combine.
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Why so less coverage of Mumbai
 
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I assure you if you try something on Karachi than from Mumbai to Goa to Bangleruru all will get evaporated.
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What's preventing you? Goodness of heart? It's been 5 years since Modi's been at the helm and nothing of worth in Bombay from your end.Why? Did Dawood refuse logistical support? Else his entire family here would get it.At this rate, your network here would collapse. You must do something to boost their morale.

As far as evaporating cities go, the IAF struck deep inside Pakistan and not just PoK. Even accepting your logic of a few trees and a crow being killed, it was an act of war which as per received wisdom from Pakistan, should've resulted in a Nuclear attack. Leave aside a N attack, none of your mullahs or generals have so much as uttered a word on the subject .So much so that the normally garrulous Sheikh chilli who had a lot to say post Pulwama and pre 26 Feb is silent and Modi is trolling your PA with threats of a N war with your foreign Office responding like a dehaati aurat & the PA & the GoP maintaining a deathly silence.
 
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What's preventing you? Goodness of heart? It's been 5 years since Modi's been at the helm and nothing of worth in Bombay from your end.Why? Did Dawood refuse logistical support? Else his entire family here would get it.At this rate, your network here would collapse. You must do something to boost their morale.

As far as evaporating cities go, the IAF struck deep inside Pakistan and not just PoK. Even accepting your logic of a few trees and a crow being killed, it was an act of war which as per received wisdom from Pakistan, should've resulted in a Nuclear attack. Leave aside a N attack, none of your mullahs or generals have so much as uttered a word on the subject .So much so that the normally garrulous Sheikh chilli who had a lot to say post Pulwama and pre 26 Feb is silent and Modi is trolling your PA with threats of a N war with your foreign Office responding like a dehaati aurat & the PA & the GoP maintaining a deathly silence.
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Yes in 5 years of Modi you have faced more attacks than ever. The number of casualties you have faced on LOC and inside India and Kashmir have gone up by 200 %. So you may think about Modi wave but that has only brought economic problems but also of security.
 
zarvan said:
Yes in 5 years of Modi you have faced more attacks than ever. The number of casualties you have faced on LOC and inside India and Kashmir have gone up by 200 %. So you may think about Modi wave but that has only brought economic problems but also of security.
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See this is the problem with your lot when you read & write English from right to left. Pleej never right the English in the Urdu ishtyle.

Replace Modi with Ganja / Dimran & India with Pakistan and your statement would be 100% true.

But you are right in a way. The IMF is playing hardball with us, KSA, Iron Brother & UAE put some loose change in our begging bowl ( when Modi went there and sang Bhar de jholi meri ya Mohammed, dar se tere na jau main khali) Trump is virtually raping us in his tweets and we're on the verge of being blacklisted by the FATF.
 
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