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CountryFirst said:
And people wonder why rapists are let loose.
Hope this becomes an eye opener to the still naive common populace on who are these MeLords sitting in noble chairs - The first step to bringing these false institutions under elected body control or under president control (my preference).
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Melards have become victim of Metoo. I read the whole story as posted here in the link. I am of the view that the victim is telling the truth. I have never had any faith in this CJI and my hunch seems to have come true.
 
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Melards have become victim of Metoo. I read the whole story as posted here in the link. I am of the view that the victim is telling the truth. I have never had any faith in this CJI and my hunch seems to have come true.
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Bains is a Supreme Court lawyer and claims to highlight something cooking within the walls of the SC.

"I was offered a bribe to help frame CJI in the sexual harassment case by lawyering and organising a Press Conference against the CJI for the Ex SC staffer who has accused the CJI of sexual harassment just a few days back and also specifically asked to organise a press conference only at the Press Club of India.

When I refused the person who was initially praising my pro bono work in the Asaram Rape case for the victim etc and interestingly claimed to be her relative but on the other hand looked like a trained agent and he also couldn’t satisfactorily reply as to what was his relationship with the Ex SC Staffer and then suddenly offered me 50 lacs as my legal fees if I agreed to lawyer and again he asked me specifically to organise a press conference at the PCI after I refused as I found the story facts fishy and also he couldn’t reply to any question about the many loopholes in the story he narrated. When I again refused he said 1.5 Cr. I then asked him to leave my office.

I then enquired more about this issue from reliable sources in Delhi for days, every information pointed to a larger conspiracy to make the CJI resign and kingpin of which are many Delhi based SC fixers or those who engage in cash for Judgements.

I was convinced about a well planned conspiracy after days of getting such credible information.

I then finally went to CJI residence yesterday evening to inform him about the bribe offer and the conspiracy, around 7 pm. But his staff said he’s not at his residence. My CDR tower location details can be checked.

Later at night I then called a SC reporter with impeccable proven integrity to meet me today for an important subject and also asked him if he could arrange a urgent meeting or get a message sent to the CJI asap. I had also today morning planned to meet Prashant Bhushan Sir and Kamini Jaiswal maam about this.

But then today morning my perception turned out to be true.

After hours of ponder and soul searching, I have decided to speak the truth and file a detailed affidavit in this regard in the SC along with evidences of the conspiracy against the CJI by a lobby of disgruntled judges, SC fixers, corporate scamsters and a few corrupt Politicians - All who have meticulously planned the conspiracy to force the CJI to resign as their ‘Corrupt works were not going through in SC‘

After today I will not be appearing in any case in the court of the CJI. Also, I have never personally interacted with the CJI or anyone close to him, my electronic records etc are open to any independent scrutiny. I will leave legal practice if anyone can prove that I have associated or even interacted with CJI outside the Court room ever. As a matter of principle I don’t butter or bootlick judges.

I was stopped to go public by some senior wellwishers and told that lobby of judges who is planning this conspiracy will turn against me and harm me professionally. But my conscious doesn’t allow me to turn my face away and let history record today’s day as the darkest day in the history of SC.

I moved to Delhi from Chandigarh as I refused to be institutionalised in judicial nepotism. My grandfather is a retired HC judge who appointed many HC judges and father a senior lawyer, many of his friends or my family friends are HC Judges at PB HRY HC - Precisely the reason why I moved to lawyer in Delhi.

In SC until now I have only associated in SC with the likes of Prashant Bhushan and Kamini Jaiswal and with Anupam Gupta in PB HRY HC, all who are known for standing against financially corrupt and morally corrupt judges and against judicial nepotism, fearlessly.

I have till date never associated with any kin or kith of SC judges as principle of having a clean legal practice and refusing to be institutionalised in nepotism or be a member of the uncle judges young lawyer club.

Regards
Utsav Singh Bains"
 
CountryFirst said:
Hindutva Terrorism?? Hello?? Are you Rahul Gandhi or Digvijay Singh??
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He says he's not Indian; but I believe I've seen him use/respond to some desi slang implying at least a basic knowledge of it. My guess is he could be Pakistani - which would explain why he's kept his Location totally secret.
 
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I don't think it's an open & shut case. I also don't share the view that Pragya Thakur should've got a ticket from the BJP. What's the larger message being sent out to India and the world by Modi? That Pakistan is a state sponsorer & supporter of terror while his own party has amongst its nominees / elected representatives people accused & prosecuted by the State of terror. It's one thing to be accused of political violence but terror is a red line which shouldn't be crossed.
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They detained and tortured her for 6 years without filing a chargesheet. Finally when they were on their way out of power, they hurriedly filed one which didn't really hold up in court. So in short, they've got little to nothing to show for all this. Just like Col Purohit, who's also free right now (and had claimed to be on an Army assignment - corroborated by the Army itself).

Tie this in with the rest of the things we know about the Saffron Terror campaign by UPA; and I'm calling Bullshit on this whole thing. Here's a quick/small list off the top of my head, of just the main things we've come to know - there's no saying what else still lies hidden in confidential files and the dark corridors of power:

> Rahul Gandhi tells US diplomat he's more afraid of Hindutva terror than Islamism
> Chidambaram, Shinde and Digvijay Singh take the cue and begin the Saffron Terror Campaign
> Shinde calls RSS a terrorist group
> Sonia Gandhi/Salman Khurshid weep for Batla House terrorists
> Congress misuses Central Agencies to issue a false report that the Godhra train burning was an electrical incident
> Congress claims Ishrat Jahan was an innocent child
> They then persecute Amit Shah, DG Vanzara, and other politicians & cops for that encounter (and others).
> Chidambaram misuses his Home Ministry for the purpose of propagating Saffron Terror; and also uses it to nail Modi-Shah. An MHA official comes out in 2016 revealing that he was tortured on the orders of Chidambaram by CBI officers to obtain his signature on a tainted affidavit re: Ishrat Jahan.
> Terrorists on 26/11 showing up with Kalavas, all of them supposed to die - only for Tukaram Omble to catch Kasab alive by chance - debunking the whole conspiracy.
> Digvijay Singh launches the book, "26/11 RSS ki Saazish"

And we're supposed to trust those f*cking b*stards on anything...?
 
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They detained and tortured her for 6 years without filing a chargesheet. Finally when they were on their way out of power, they hurriedly filed one which didn't really hold up in court. So in short, they've got little to nothing to show for all this. Just like Col Purohit, who's also free right now (and had claimed to be on an Army assignment - corroborated by the Army itself).

Tie this in with the rest of the things we know about the Saffron Terror campaign by UPA; and I'm calling Bullshit on this whole thing.
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I'm not denying it. But then why did the HC come down heavily on the NIA for shoddy investigations? To add to the confusion, the FBI still holds on to the theory initially proposed by the GoI backed by our own investigations that the LeT was behind the Samjhauta Express bombings.The UPA led GoI subsequently backtracked on this claim only to propose the Hindu terror conspiracy later. As in all such cases, third degree torture was also used. Something Pragya Thakur complained about. Something our Fiberal dominated MSM used to crucify her with the charge that she was denigrating a martyr. Something the Fiberals scream themselves hoarse with when the same due procedures are followed against the Maoists in CG or Kashmiri terrorists particularly if the accused happens to be a female.


That's just one case. There are plenty of other similar cases across India viz the Malegaon Case, the Mecca Masjid blasts, the Ajmer Dargah case, etc. We don't know who the perpetrators are.

Unfortunately, the entire case reeks of politics. Sometime back both @vstol Jockey & @Falcon had very interesting revelations on Col Purohit's role. They actually corroborated the Hindu terror campaign except to add that Col Purohit wasn't involved. He was merely in the process of investigating the entire case. Something, out of the ambit of his organization - the MI. Nothing quite adds up here.
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
I'm not denying it. But then why did the HC come down heavily on the NIA for shoddy investigations? To add to the confusion, the FBI still holds on to the theory initially proposed by the GoI backed by our own investigations that the LeT was behind the Samjhauta Express bombings.The UPA led GoI subsequently backtracked on this claim only to propose the Hindu terror conspiracy later. As in all such cases, third degree torture was also used. Something Pragya Thakur complained about. Something our Fiberal dominated MSM used to crucify her with the charge that she was denigrating a martyr. Something the Fiberals scream themselves hoarse with when the same due procedures are followed against the Maoists in CG or Kashmiri terrorists particularly if the accused happens to be a female.


That's just one case. There are plenty of other similar cases across India viz the Malegaon Case, the Mecca Masjid blasts, the Ajmer Dargah case, etc. We don't know who the perpetrators are.

Unfortunately, the entire case reeks of politics. Sometime back both @vstol Jockey & @Falcon had very interesting revelations on Col Purohit's role. They actually corroborated the Hindu terror campaign except to add that Col Purohit wasn't involved. He was merely in the process of investigating the entire case. Something, out of the ambit of his organization - the MI. Nothing quite adds up here.
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Please guide me to the convo you mentioned; that rings a bell, but just in case there's any interesting info I missed out on, I'd like to revisit it.
 
RATHORE said:
Please guide me to the convo you mentioned; that rings a bell, but just in case there's any interesting info I missed out on, I'd like to revisit it.
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No clue. I'm not even sure whether if it occured here or on Older Forum. Hence, the tags. Hope they respond.
 
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No clue. I'm not even sure whether if it occured here or on Older Forum. Hence, the tags. Hope they respond.
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RATHORE said:
Please guide me to the convo you mentioned; that rings a bell, but just in case there's any interesting info I missed out on, I'd like to revisit it.
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Its in the political section of the old forum from 2 years ago

Apparently he was undercover MI who was made the scrap goat in a shoddy investigation under political pressure.
 
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Amit Malviya targets Yogendra Yadav via edited video clip after TV debate face-off - Alt News
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I think the context was Salim Yadav grandstanding by stating on India Today TV that he had never disclosed this fact ever ( the fact that his GF was murdered by a Muslim mob and that his father named his children with Islamic names) in public before & challenged Malaviya to produce evidence, which if produced, would see a prompt retirement from public life by Salim Yadav.

Alt News, another glorious edition to the MSM brand of fiberal politics in this Nation, true to style, bypassed the main issue to focus on intangibles. No where did they claim that the said video is doctored. Hence, the claim that portions of it were selectively edited.

On another note, we should be grateful to Gandhi & Gandhians for resorting to tokenisms to keep the nation United. He could very well have asked for mass conversions to Islam. That way we wouldn't have had partition & we'd be one happy country of 1.8 billion happy merry souls.
 
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I think the context was Salim Yadav grandstanding by stating on India Today TV that he had never disclosed this fact ever ( the fact that his GF was murdered by a Muslim mob and that his father named his children with Islamic names) in public before & challenged Malaviya to produce evidence, which if produced, would see a prompt retirement from public life by Salim Yadav.

Alt News, another glorious edition to the MSM brand of fiberal politics in this Nation, true to style, bypassed the main issue to focus on intangibles. No where did they claim that the said video is doctored. Hence, the claim that portions of it were selectively edited.

On another note, we should be grateful to Gandhi & Gandhians for resorting to tokenisms to keep the nation United. He could very well have asked for mass conversions to Islam. That way we wouldn't have had partition & we'd be one happy country of 1.8 billion happy merry souls.
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So what the BJP Spokeperson trying to scored some moral high ground + Brownie Points by posting that edited video and along with the youtube clip with the presenter making a judgement call based on that Edited Clip IS BETTER?? - excellent example of Hypocrisy at work
 
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So what the BJP Spokeperson trying to scored some moral high ground + Brownie Points by posting that edited video and along with the youtube clip with the presenter making a judgement call based on that Edited Clip IS BETTER?? - excellent example of Hypocrisy at work
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And did Salim Yadav attempt to do something else? It's hypocrisy all around. A nobody in politics plays a victim card cynically and he's called out in equally cynical fashion by his political opponents.
 
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RATHORE said:
He says he's not Indian; but I believe I've seen him use/respond to some desi slang implying at least a basic knowledge of it. My guess is he could be Pakistani - which would explain why he's kept his Location totally secret.
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LOL

No, I can definitely say I'm not Pakistani, nor a Muslim.

Any knowledge of desi slang I have was picked up from reading this forum (and the one before it) or by using Google Translate (which is hit-or-miss).
 
A Person said:
LOL

No, I can definitely say I'm not Pakistani, nor a Muslim.

Any knowledge of desi slang I have was picked up from reading this forum (and the one before it) or by using Google Translate (which is hit-or-miss).
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Then you must know that the so called Hindutva terror tag will be most likely played up by evangelicals in the US whose activities are being contested in India mostly by the RSS & it's affilates & who incidentally have successfully petioned the US Congress Panel on Religious freedoms who've kept leaning on India to accept their delegates to come investigate such matters & whose local affiliates have already deposed before this particular panel & the UN in the recent past apart from the EU (?) And the UK House of Commons.

Perhaps you should read more on the subject matter before commenting.
 
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It's going to be very hard to find people who actually care about it compared to jihadi terrorism, is my point.

Like take today's Easter Sunday bombings in Sri Lanka, evangelicals will care a lot more about that since it's Christians who are being specifically targeted.
 
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It's going to be very hard to find people who actually care about it compared to jihadi terrorism, is my point.

Like take today's Easter Sunday bombings in Sri Lanka, evangelicals will care a lot more about that since it's Christians who are being specifically targeted.
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All over the world Christians, Jews, buddhists and Hindus are united against muslim terror. Only In India we see christians aligning with Muslims to counter Hindus.
 
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It's going to be very hard to find people who actually care about it compared to jihadi terrorism, is my point.

Like take today's Easter Sunday bombings in Sri Lanka, evangelicals will care a lot more about that since it's Christians who are being specifically targeted.
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You're comparing a one off event to what's being happening & contested out here in an organised manner for at least a century if not more. There's a whole history behind it, most of which is unpleasant stuff. The incident under discussion is going to boomerang on India big time in the future and the ones to do it will be our holier than thou western allies including France.
 
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