Islamic Republic of Afghanistan : News & Discussions

Security risks in Afghanistan is not a recent phenomenon, and irrespective of trump posturing, US and ISAF is not going anywhere.

I beg to disagree. The current circumstances and geopolitics is not conducive to an extended stay of the US troops in Afghanistan. That said, they'd definitely maintain a presence there, however minimal, as long as the Northern Alliance (NA ) put up resistance in the event the Taliban swept through Afghanistan. In the interim, however, you'd see US troops replaced by contractors.

As soon as India engages, taliban, we have lost our high ground. We just don't lose our historical stance , we also dent our reliability as a partner with the northern alliance, and Pakistan and ISI can tout the taliban to be the big bad monster, history shows that the same taliban would pee their salwars hearing the name of Massoud.

Frankly, even during the lifetime of Massoud, the Taliban were in control of Afghanistan, with Massoud confined to his stronghold in the Panjshir valley.

That said, I don't see why would India's credibility take a beating internationally or with the NA. Our relationship with the NA is mutually exclusive of the Taliban. Besides, engaging with the Taliban isn't the equivalent of recognizing their aims or ideology or even their methods. It's merely taking cognisance of ground realities and acting upon them.Besides, let's face it, without sharing a border with Afghanistan & with limited leverage over Iran, how influential are we in Afghanistan? Let's not overstate our influence or strength, However beneficial they are to the GoA and the non Talibani Afghans.

It seems we are well on the way to see a vivisection of Afghanistan into a southern half full of Pashtuns & a northern half with all the rest if the ethnicities comprising Afghanistan along with Pashtun elements opposed to the Taliban. This seems to be the beginning of the endgame. I'm sure Pakistan would be delighted with the outcome. Particularly, such Pakistans as the Pashtuns in KPK.

Before that, we may face mayhem in Kashmir just as Afghanistan will face the same courtesy the Taliban and PA, with greater ferocity and intensity.

AZM- Ahhmed Zia Massoud, and Ammrullah Saleh show great potential as leaders for the future of Afghanistan and if empowered they can get rid of the closet taliban masquerading as united front members. but more than relying on individuals this government should invest all of it's powers in organization building.
There's a credible opposition to take on the Taliban and they comprise of many more than the two you've named. Our views on the Taliban are well known and our capacity to encourage an anti Taliban response or encourage & indulge in nation building out there is that much limited.

Great support structures for India were traditionally individuals like commander massoud and gen Fahim. Massouds demise was a big blow, and even bigger blow was Gen Fahims passing, now we need strong Northern alliance members to graduate from being a local Panjshiri groups to become a pan Afghanistan organisation which includes Pashtuns.
They've had nearly 2 decades to shore up their support base with aid pouring in from across the world leave aside India. I don't see how much more India could've done under the circumstances.

If they could not prevent the Taliban from gathering influence, in spite of international efforts which in itself left much to be desired by relying on Pakistan but which certainly was generous in building up institutions and shoring up the anti Taliban factions among those Pashtuns opposed to the Taliban apart from the other ethnicities, how much more hope, time, energy & money would one be expected to expend? The current administration in the US has made up its mind. Its only a matter of time before things begin to unfold or unravel in Afghanistan.

We need to stop buying into this narrative that Taliban have this pashtun representative agency for some reason, there were legendary leaders like Abdul Haq, who pummeled taliban in Kabul during full fletched ISI backed invasion.

We all know what happened to Abdul Haq. Its time we recognize ground realities, keep our options open & the powder dry. We can't keep indulging in wish fulfillment forever. We've had nearly two decades of peace & security interspersed with terrorist activity in between since 2003. We should've used it to bolster our own capacities which we did. Unfortunately, it wasn't substantial. It's time to face the truth. Our hour of reckoning, while not upon us, isn't too far as well. If we have pretensions of great power, now's the time to stand up and be counted. Unless we're still in the ahinsak mode of our foreign policy and political establishment.

Now coming to Iran, lets not buy into irans strategic outset, Iranian strategic outlook in afganistan is not looking at the long game and relies on a lot of uncertainties and can cater to multiple outside pressure groups.
Iran's engagement with the Taliban is as much about responding to exigencies as of recognition of ground realities. Both the Iranians & Russians are probing the US underbelly in Afghanistan. Neither of the two have any illusions of a commonality of interests with the Taliban. India's position can't be different from these two Nations. The joker in the pack is the Chinese.

Next, soon pakistan will enter Yemen and Iran-Pakistan relations will deteriorate and thier own taliban strategy will change.


That's one of the multiple international fault lines where Pakistan is expected to trip. With an economy on oxygen, their room to manoeuvre being limited, watching the hunter becoming the hunter is indeed going to be cathartic and satisfying.
 
We don't want to nor need to. They aren't our problem. You are. But they were are and will be your problem. Since time immemorial.
They are everyone's problem, the talibans will nurture all islamic radical elements against non-islamic country just like they did during 1995-2000 period. This region has always been India's problem since ancient times, starting from Persian, Greeks, Turks & very recently J&K militants, all have came through Hindukush mountains. If we don't control this region we'll loose.
Remember Islam is an ideology not an army of people, this ideology has already converted & brainwashed millions in North-West India and has turned them towards their own culture & identity today the people of Afghanistan & Pakistan don't even know their history & culture before 8-9th century because that doesn't fits into the ideology of Islam.
So keeping some control in Afghanistan is for our own benefit, the day taliban rule is reinstated, India will be doomed 2nd, of course Pakistan is their 1st target.
 
Next, soon pakistan will enter Yemen and Iran-Pakistan relations will deteriorate and thier own taliban strategy will change.

There's a lot of very fun things that can be done in regards to that; but alas, India will likely keep punching below its weight.
 
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There's a lot of very fun things that can be done in regards to that; but alas, India will likely keep punching below its weight.
When the IPKF squared up against the LTTE after Rajiv Gandhi signed the Lanka Accord and faced heavy weather against the LTTE ironically trained by our own forces, J.N.Dixit our then FS remarked that India is still not prepared for great power status. Now this was in the late 80's. At least, he had such ambitions, leave aside our state of mind among the armed forces, MoD , foreign policy establishment, academia, press, dhoti clad & class politicians, etc.

What do we say about the same set now?
 
When the IPKF squared up against the LTTE after Rajiv Gandhi signed the Lanka Accord and faced heavy weather against the LTTE ironically trained by our own forces, J.N.Dixit our then FS remarked that India is still not prepared for great power status. Now this was in the late 80's. At least, he had such ambitions, leave aside our state of mind among the armed forces, MoD , foreign policy establishment, academia, press, dhoti clad & class politicians, etc.

What do we say about the same set now?

Vision has definitely increased under the current Government, but execution is still (for the most part) sorely lacking - not to mention capabilities will have to be built up to implement this vision (capabilities which either never existed, or atrophied under previous regimes).
 
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Vision has definitely increased under the current Government, but execution is still (for the most part) sorely lacking - not to mention capabilities will have to be built up to implement this vision (capabilities which either never existed, or atrophied under previous regimes).
one way or the other, it is related to the political dispensation of the opposition (Whichever the opposition maybe). if they do not stand with the ruling party in such decisions, it just cannot stand.
another reason - we need a really strong Military Industrial Complex that is not dependent on imports - not just for the logistics, but also because imported equipment comes with strings as to what can be used in which theater - during decisive acts, such limits cost a lot.
Finally - also comes to trust. there is 50% of the population which does not trust either party and if they take a step to "punch above its weight" and they fail.. it will be used forever against them.
 
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one way or the other, it is related to the political dispensation of the opposition (Whichever the opposition maybe). if they do not stand with the ruling party in such decisions, it just cannot stand.
another reason - we need a really strong Military Industrial Complex that is not dependent on imports - not just for the logistics, but also because imported equipment comes with strings as to what can be used in which theater - during decisive acts, such limits cost a lot.
Finally - also comes to trust. there is 50% of the population which does not trust either party and if they take a step to "punch above its weight" and they fail.. it will be used forever against them.

I'm torn on the Military Industrial Complex, I think we ought to have one that's just strong enough, but not one so powerful, overbearing and influential as the American one - to the point where the MIC starts lobbying for/pushing for artificial unnecessary wars to further its own existence/profits. A fine balance will have to be struck.
 
I'm torn on the Military Industrial Complex, I think we ought to have one that's just strong enough, but not one so powerful, overbearing and influential as the American one - to the point where the MIC starts lobbying for/pushing for artificial unnecessary wars to further its own existence/profits. A fine balance will have to be struck.
its a drawback you get for having a strong anything - the fear of getting too powerful.
this is currently our problem with runaway media - they have become too strong and are currently determining the themes for elections - but before this (and no social media) we never knew about folks as much.
 
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NATO does not want India at Afghanistan peace talks table
Nayanima Basu, January 16, 2019


The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) has denied that India plays a crucial role in the Afghanistan peace and reconciliation process, and instead believes that Pakistan has the “most important role”, along with the US, in establishing truce with the Taliban.

Alejandro Alvargonzález, Assistant Secretary General for Political Affairs and Security Policy, NATO, told ThePrint that the peace process is led by the Afghanistan government where the US is “playing a crucial role” along with Pakistan, but India cannot be party to those talks just because Pakistan is a player in it.

“There is an international community that helps the Afghan government to sit with others and the US is the other actor whose role is very important. But let’s not go mentioning every single country that could have a role because you will then have all countries in the world (coming in as stakeholder),” Alvargonzález, who attended the Raisina Dialogue held last week, said.

“Pakistan’s role is of utmost importance in Afghanistan. I think India has a prominent place in Afghanistan now. But there are hundreds there that have a stake there. It is an Afghan-owned process and it should be kept like that,” Alvargonzález said.

No part in talks unless Kabul invites

India is now in a catch-22 situation of sorts with the US accelerating its talks with the Taliban, with Pakistan in tow.

While the US had urged India to take up a more combative role in Afghanistan by sending its security forces there to fight the Taliban, India has maintained that it will not speak to the Taliban directly unless it is formally invited by the Afghan government to do so.

However, New Delhi is concerned that the talks could be being steered by the US for its own benefit, but that Pakistan’s presence could throw up security challenges for it.

“It is clear that the US is negotiating with the Taliban on their own behalf. NATO has no idea what it is talking about or what is going on. I agree that Pakistan plays the most critical role in it but how it discharges its responsibilities, that is something that needs to be seen,” said former high commissioner of India to Pakistan T.C.A. Raghavan.

“Problem is Taliban is ready to talk with everyone but the Afghan government, and India cannot be part of those talks unless the Afghan government invites it to be part of that process. After all, Afghanistan is a sovereign country,” Raghavan, who is now director-general of the Indian Council of World Affairs, added.

Calls for clear policy on Afghanistan

There is now growing clamour that India should come up with a comprehensive Afghanistan policy wherein it will not just focus on its development by granting aid, but also outline whether its security forces should partake in the reconciliation process.

While Army Chief General Bipin Rawat had stressed last week that India should not remain out of the Taliban talks since it has an interest in the war-ravaged country, the Ministry of External Affairs tried to downplay his remarks, saying India supports only those peace talks that is “Afghan-owned” and “Afghan-led”.

These issues were also discussed in the 10 January meeting between External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj and US Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation Zalmay Khalilzad.

“We are working on a regional grouping on the peace talks where India will be a party,” Khalilzad had told The Print.

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Pakistan’s role is of utmost importance in Afghanistan. I think India has a prominent place in Afghanistan now

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It is clear that the US is negotiating with the Taliban on their own behalf. NATO has no idea what it is talking about or what is going on. I agree that Pakistan plays the most critical role in it but how it discharges its responsibilities, that is something that needs to be seen,” said former high commissioner of India to Pakistan T.C.A. Raghavan.


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These issues were also discussed in the 10 January meeting between External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj and US Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation Zalmay Khalilzad.

We are working on a regional grouping on the peace talks where India will be a party,” Khalilzad had told The Print.

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Pakistan blocking Indian cargo to Afghanistan
In what appears to be a violation of civil aviation norms, Pakistan is reportedly stopping Indian flights to Afghanistan. Recently, Pakistan's civil aviation authority denied passage thrice in the last week of December to SpiceJet cargo flights to Afghanistan and then again on January 11 and 14.

India raised the matter with Islamabad with Ministry of External Affairs sending a note verbale to Pakistan.

The development comes even as New Delhi has been trying to connect landlocked Afghanistan with India and rest of the world.

Pakistan has been blocking the land route for trade between Afghanistan and India.

The India Afghanistan air corridor, launched in 2017, connects Afghanistan with Delhi and Mumbai. The Chabahar port being built in Iran with India's help also provides Afghanistan goods gateway to the world.

Speaking at the first India Central Asia Afghanistan Dialogue in Samarkand, Uzbekistan on January 13, external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj said, "Joint efforts of India, Iran and Afghanistan have led to the development of the Chabahar Port in Iran as a viable and operational trade route to connect to Afghanistan and potentially to Central Asia. Chabahar provides a shining example of what strong partnership can achieve to overcome any obstacles."
Pakistan blocking Indian cargo to Afghanistan
 
India signs 11 MoUs worth $9.5 million with Afghanistan
Notwithstanding the recent terror attack targeting Indian nationals in Kabul and US efforts to cut a deal with Taliban, India has signed 11Mo-Us worth $ 9.5 million with the Afghan government this week.

The MoUs were for infrastructureNSE -1.64 %, public services such as health clinics and governance-related projects.

These projects include construction of classrooms, orphanages, health clinics, canal protection walls and enhancing economic opportunities for women for seven provinces of Afghanistan-- Balkh, Ghor, Herat, Kabul, Bamyan, Badghis and Kapisa. "The projects will help local communities in education, employment and livelihood generation and capacity building,” an official here said.

These projects are part of the 577 development projects funded by India for 2005-2021 worth $120 million. “These projects come under the ambit of community-based Small Development Projects (SDP), which are aimed at building capacities and capabilities of Afghan nationals and institutions for governance and delivery of public services, developing socio-economic infrastructure, securing and promoting livelihood options," Indian Embassy in Afghanistan noted in a statement.

The development comes days after US President Donald Trump mocked India's development assistance in Afghanistan and questioned the use of the “library” India built in the country. Trump in 2019’s first cabinet meet had said, even though he gets "along very well with India and Prime Minister Modi", PM Modi "is constantly telling me, he built a library in Afghanistan" but he "does not know who’s using it (the library) in Afghanistan". Later during a phone call, Trump and PM Modi discussed the way forward in Afghanistan as US readies to withdraw its troops and enter into a deal with Taliban.

India says its projects in Afghanistan speak for itself and Delhi will continue to stay on course in the landlocked country. Since 2001, India has undertaken projects worth over $2 billion in Afghanistan.
India signs 11 MoUs worth $9.5 million with Afghanistan