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Israel-Hamas Conflict: Updates & Discussions
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Israel is highly reliant on foreign oil and foreign investment too. They are assertive in spite of all of their shortcomings. Its rather telling that India has a MASSIVE amount of natural resources as compared to Israel but it fails to even punch at its own weight.
We suck at wielding hard power. Its a cultural thing for us.
Case in point : Nehru and his subordinates delayed India's nuclear program. When we actually did the test we called it "peaceful bullshit" and did no follow up. We could have become nuclear power in 60s only. Or even 50s. Could have avoided war with China and Pakistan that way.
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For rest of the world, they can keep on using Russian oil... refined by India ofcourse.
Meaning, they will just get all that from the US and EU anyway.
The problem for India is they threaten us with oil and foreign investments to conform, oil being the biggest factor, 'cause FDI and FII are primarily merit-based. They can cause problems with remittances as well. They can even restrict our access to Western universities, which is important to us.
They have actually told us to our face in the past that what they do and what we do will be judged differently. It's a class problem. Israel is a $50000 economy, India is $3000. Therein lies the difference. The minute we hit the $10000 mark, the West loses all its leverage over us. And the minute we get our hydrogen thing going, the entire world loses it too.
In any case, Israel can do what they are doing 'cause their relationship with the Muslim world is pretty much zero anyway. We can't take the same measures.
No, there's actually a severe overestimation of India's power on the global stage. Yeah, there are some things we could have done better, but a mix of bad economic choices and the need for exercising hard power internally prevented us from causing trouble externally. For example, dealing with Naxals, terrorism in the NE and Kashmir utilized a lot of hard power. And we are the only ones who have successfully managed such a situation.
Nehru's la la land foreign policy was hopeless. He created a lot of problems for us starting with both Kashmir and Tibet. But post-Nehru, we have done somewhat well, even more so after the nuclear tests, post which most problems in India died down. Most of the global events happening today concerning India are going in our favor as well. Especially Russia's newfound crutch in us, China's economic troubles, the Western world's increasing reliance on us for their own security, other countries adjusting positively to our growing economy, Pakistan's downward spiral. So why upset the applecart now?
Err... Per Capita does not matter in these matters. At all.
India has enough Israel size economies in itself (about 6-8) and rich enough people. Israel has about 9 million people. Lets make it 10 million. Do you believe that we do not have 10 million people who earn more than 50,000 USD per annum? 50,000 USD is merely 40-45 lakh INR. That income is way too common in a number of professions and businesses. Even if you count all the jeweller in India you will be able to reach that number easily.
The reason is something else. Israel has a powerful lobby in USA of its own diaspora who are hell bent on supporting Israel. Most of CEOs of major US media companies are Jewish and are big supporters of Israel. They donate handsomely to US political parties and have a hold over both sides of political spectrum. India has always treated its diaspora with massive disdain and contempt so why will they work in favour of Indian interests in USA even though they are high income earners and have a number of people who are CEOs and business leaders.
Am I to believe that China was WAY more powerful than India in 1950s? Come on man, that does not even pass the smell test.
India, has NEVER paid due attention to develop hard power or to use its hard power properly. We are now buying aircrafts that were due in late 90s. Our official spending on defence is mere 2-3% and most of it goes in pensions and salaries.
Heck even bangladeshi and nepali think they can successfully wage a war against India. Yes, its that bad.
BTW, you over estimate importance of economics. We have been hearing about economics when we were 300 billion and even when we are 3000 billion. If our status in packing order has not imporved then its not economics. Its somewhere else. Altogether.
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It matters. It's about perception. Israel is seen as not just a rich, developed and powerful country, it's also important to the Christian world. So what happens in Israel affects people in the West, hence greater importance paid to happenings in Israel. But the perception of India is very low, and social trends in India are irrelevant to the general public in the West. The only way people will pay attention to India is if changes in India affects them too, and that's only possible if India becomes rich enough. We don't need $50,000 per capita, we only need $10,000. That will make us a $15T economy. Right now, even if half a billion people die in India, it won't affect anybody.
China's suffered for their mistakes. It was only after Mao's death that China adopted India's policy of restraint and then allied with the West. They have been quiet since the 70s.
Now that they have become a 14, 15 or 18T or whatever economy, they are now starting to screw around.
We don't have hard power to the extent you think we need. Even if we want to, we can't get it. It's a product of GDP. India is only a regional power, we aren't even on the same level as France or UK. But we have sufficient hard power for our needs.
Sure. But it's normal for nationalist diehards to think that way.
With GDP, we will get military heft. But what's more important is economic heft. Military heft won't give us anything new.
It applies both ways though.
Waving Palestinian flag may be a criminal offence, Braverman tells police
Home secretary also suggests clampdown on pro-Arab chants in letter that will concern free speech advocates
He has lost support for the SNP in Scotland.
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Labour comes in you guys are done.
It all works against labour though.
London fell a decade ago. Birmingham even before that. It's now the rest of the UK.
It applies both ways though.
Waving Palestinian flag may be a criminal offence, Braverman tells police
Home secretary also suggests clampdown on pro-Arab chants in letter that will concern free speech advocateswww.theguardian.com
Yeah. Vote for Sunak.
Point being our man here's gonna stay in power anyway. Elections are in 2026 next.
@randomradio this should amuse you:
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Why TikTok feels overwhelmingly pro-Palestine right now | Semafor
A popular thread on X claimed Israel was losing the information war on TikTok, but experts point to a number of reasons to explain the popularity of pro-Palestine sentiments on TikTok.
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@randomradio this should amuse you:
Why TikTok feels overwhelmingly pro-Palestine right now | Semafor
A popular thread on X claimed Israel was losing the information war on TikTok, but experts point to a number of reasons to explain the popularity of pro-Palestine sentiments on TikTok.
I don't agree with most of what's been mentioned there, 'cause Tiktok's algorithm's controlled by the Chinese. They push views artificially and that's likely contributing most to negative news about Israel. But yeah, the trend among the younger generation is weirdly more pro-Palestinian than not, the consequence of the education system.
Without China in play, India is dominating social media everywhere. Funny thing is only 60% of the population is on highspeed Internet, and many of those 40% are hardcore right wing nationalists, one of Modi's main voting bases, the cow belt.