Jammu & Kashmir live updates: GOI remove all provisions of Article 370

You can't rewrite history.pandit nehru is known well for his Kashmir statement and it's a promise.it is very sad that your leaders don't think about promises.

I assume you can read the rest of the text Mr. High Commissioner?

Make yourself available on the 15. We need you here on our new UT’s first Independence Day.
 
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If kashmiri ask you to go,you should go.he clearly said that.he was your leader.we don't want land.our fight is not for land but for people of Kashmir.
Remember the state of J&K is not just the Kashmir Valley, it's Kashmir, Jammu and Ladakh. Jammu and Ladakh actually form the majority area of the state. There have never been any issues in Jammu or in Ladakh, even majority of Kashmir has been peaceful except for 5 odd districts along with Srinagar.
Now about Asking Kashmiris, that refers to to UNSC resolutions.
>Pakistan occupied Kashmir has had significant demographical change since independence. This a valid plebiscite is not at all possible 72 years down the line.
>With two invasions of the state of Jammu and Kashmir state by Pakistan, the written guidelines and spirit of the UNSC resolutions have been completely demolished and thus there remains no scope for either UNSC resolutions or the sanctity of Shimla accords.

As of now the Union territory of J&K and Union Territory of Ladakh will change the game of political fence-sitting of the political families of J&K which hijacked the well-intentioned Article 370 all the while using it exact large sums of funding from the government and redirecting it to weaken the writ of the same hand that fed them.
 
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Their strategy should be Grab and Hold technic for some day and waiting for P5 intervention.... But MSD TRIO are not only good planners but also fine strategists,they may be discussed all of the options before...
 
There are plenty of articles out there which have clearly reported that the US was kept in the loop of this development
Yeah and BJP is keeping us in loop from decades, Ram Madhav kept Pakistan in loop 5 years ago as told by Pakistani diplomat, if they scrapped it that time would we call it keeping Pakistan in loop? It's informing your wish, not sharing that we are doing this. Indian media get whatever masala that they can and make theories of keeping US in loop.

Right now, the GoA can fight Taliban and grind them to a stalemate even without US support but once the US withdraws
Pakistan is not a position to demand anything.
Given the constraints of US diplomacy, what with their relationship with Iran, Russia, China, Pakistan & India, there's only one nation they could trust - India.
Man you are a well read poster, you should look at what you have said here.

To come back to my point about whether there is a tacit agreement between the US & India, you've to look at the trajectory of negotiations between the US & Taliban
You also need to look at trajectory of India-US ties and they are going down and down from past many months. To think that US will somehow give go ahead with acquiring POK to open supply lines for GoA look a bit too much.

We are yet to be sure if even we want that, our only source of this information is esteemed members here, though well connected and respected we are yet to see anything from government that tell us they are looking at POK. We are hearing of POK from BJP from long so I won't be that excited with Amit Shah speech.

In this tactic agreement where we are assuming POK is done deal we are forgetting that it will mean a significant loss of territory for Pakistan and nukes won't be that distant, China will be cut off and they too will help Pakistan against us, so it's not going to be certain that we will get it and to make a plan to stabilize Afghanistan based on such event, I don't know how sensible it is, provided by the time we will be getting POK there won't be any Government of Afghanistan left to help and we will be sharing border with Taliban without tried and tested terrain and counter infiltration grid.

US has never gave us go ahead with anything adventurous in past, suddenly when they are getting out of this region they will help in capturing POK and all looks a far too much, I hope you are right.
 
Yeah and BJP is keeping us in loop from decades, Ram Madhav kept Pakistan in loop 5 years ago as told by Pakistani diplomat, if they scrapped it that time would we call it keeping Pakistan in loop? It's informing your wish, not sharing that we are doing this. Indian media get whatever masala that they can and make theories of keeping US in loop.




Man you are a well read poster, you should look at what you have said here.


You also need to look at trajectory of India-US ties and they are going down and down from past many months. To think that US will somehow give go ahead with acquiring POK to open supply lines for GoA look a bit too much.

We are yet to be sure if even we want that, our only source of this information is esteemed members here, though well connected and respected we are yet to see anything from government that tell us they are looking at POK. We are hearing of POK from BJP from long so I won't be that excited with Amit Shah speech.

In this tactic agreement where we are assuming POK is done deal we are forgetting that it will mean a significant loss of territory for Pakistan and nukes won't be that distant, China will be cut off and they too will help Pakistan against us, so it's not going to be certain that we will get it and to make a plan to stabilize Afghanistan based on such event, I don't know how sensible it is, provided by the time we will be getting POK there won't be any Government of Afghanistan left to help and we will be sharing border with Taliban without tried and tested terrain and counter infiltration grid.

US has never gave us go ahead with anything adventurous in past, suddenly when they are getting out of this region they will help in capturing POK and all looks a far too much, I hope you are right.
It's just a hypothesis of mine.Nothing more or less to it.
 
It is promise to the people of Kashmir.you must respect your leaders.we respect our leaders.our elders told us about nehru.you can't forget your promise.
Nehru (whose ancestors are kashmiri pandits) gave a promise in good faith and honesty. But pakistan abused our generosity, honesty and took us for fools. A promise can only be fulfilled in conditions which was given when the conditions changes it no longer holds good. For a plebiscite to held kashmir should return to same conditions/environment which was present in 1947. Given that terrorists have virtually cleansed and committed genocide on kashmiri pandits who are also one of the stakeholders , plebiscite becomes totally meaningless.


Pakistan asking for plebiscite is like a 70 year old man demanding that he should be eligible to take kindergarten exam that he missed when he was 5 years old. good luck with it.
 
Yeah and BJP is keeping us in loop from decades, Ram Madhav kept Pakistan in loop 5 years ago as told by Pakistani diplomat, if they scrapped it that time would we call it keeping Pakistan in loop? It's informing your wish, not sharing that we are doing this. Indian media get whatever masala that they can and make theories of keeping US in loop.




Man you are a well read poster, you should look at what you have said here.


You also need to look at trajectory of India-US ties and they are going down and down from past many months. To think that US will somehow give go ahead with acquiring POK to open supply lines for GoA look a bit too much.

We are yet to be sure if even we want that, our only source of this information is esteemed members here, though well connected and respected we are yet to see anything from government that tell us they are looking at POK. We are hearing of POK from BJP from long so I won't be that excited with Amit Shah speech.

In this tactic agreement where we are assuming POK is done deal we are forgetting that it will mean a significant loss of territory for Pakistan and nukes won't be that distant, China will be cut off and they too will help Pakistan against us, so it's not going to be certain that we will get it and to make a plan to stabilize Afghanistan based on such event, I don't know how sensible it is, provided by the time we will be getting POK there won't be any Government of Afghanistan left to help and we will be sharing border with Taliban without tried and tested terrain and counter infiltration grid.

US has never gave us go ahead with anything adventurous in past, suddenly when they are getting out of this region they will help in capturing POK and all looks a far too much, I hope you are right.
And one more thing... Even if we acquire the whole of Pok, we would only touch the wakhan corridor of Afghanistan... It is a long narrow stretch vulnerable to a pincer movement from China and Pakistan. To put our Afghan plans on a transport corridor through wakhan, would be folly..
 
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Here comes the moral police , WTH , Americans think they can school and lecture us everytime
Alice Wells, if you don't know her history, is very much anti-Pak. So much so that Pak FM S.M. Quereshi during IK's US visit mentioned how she shut all doors closed for Pakistan despite their best lobbying efforts. But she does work within the constraints of the US govt.
Still 10 days is a long time, let's see.