Kalvari Class Submarines - Updates & Discussions

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Ashwin said:
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India finalises deal of over Rs 36,000 cr for additional 3 Scorpene submarines

The new submarines will see certain design changes and will be similar to the one being supplied to Brazilian Navy. This also makes the 3 slightly larger than the previous 6.
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The asking price is insane. They are milking the most before we become self reliant. This will be the last submarine import from France.
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Why don't india purchase more Kilo ? far far more affordable....

And I wish you a very good luck with germany about the bigger sub.
 
Ashwin said:
This is exactly the attitude issue of frenchies, no wonder Aussies gave the finger.
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It is why some aussies now regrets the Aukus decision : big big money for a very late solution, probably without any australian content (because the price will rise again).
Good job.
But thanks to the Australian shortfins studies, we sold 4 subs to Netherlands. And are in the race for Canada bid.
 
Bon Plan said:
Why don't india purchase more Kilo ? far far more affordable....

And I wish you a very good luck with germany about the bigger sub.
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What is wrong with German submarines or the impending German deal?

BTW- I wanted the order to got L&T, but not going to be.
 
The strong lobby MDL got within the MoD means the conventional sub making business will always be primarily theirs. In fact much of the existing capacity is under utilised. One big reason why other shipyards are not keen on expanding into ssk building due to very very low domestic demand and almost nil chance of export. The existing facility at HSL can also be augmented via short-mid term prep work into submarine mfg as well as existing MRO work. So with this state of affair we can predict what would happen in future too.
 
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Exactly why the French were never a good choice for submarines.

Bon Plan said:
It is why some aussies now regrets the Aukus decision : big big money for a very late solution, probably without any australian content (because the price will rise again).
Good job.
But thanks to the Australian shortfins studies, we sold 4 subs to Netherlands. And are in the race for Canada bid.
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How does it matter for you?. French lost, deal with it. x
 
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jk007 said:
What is wrong with German submarines or the impending German deal?

BTW- I wanted the order to got L&T, but not going to be.
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German submarines are very good. But what about the german export licence for 40 years ???
Ask saudi arabia and some others.
 
Ashwin said:
Exactly why the French were never a good choice for submarines.
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LOL.
So why TKMS explain that?
"the french" sell subarines worldwide, including India. No need to go further. Your classical french bashing fall short due to reality.

Ashwin said:
How does it matter for you?. French lost, deal with it. x
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Lost ? no.
Australian military top brass were very satisfied with the R&D effort. It's only one corrupted (and idiot) Aussie that decided to halt the deal, to give Austalia to USA.
They will have to pay at least 'th the price, with probably no australian content, and with a first capacity end 2030 early 2040.
What a nice deal !

Another proof of your french bashing. Pityfull.
 
Bon Plan said:
LOL.
So why TKMS explain that?
"the french" sell subarines worldwide, including India. No need to go further. Your classical french bashing fall short due to reality.
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Explain what? French is complaining to germans about transfer of tech.

This is a country that dont even operate SSKs. The market is shrinking so fast. Lets see how long you survive.

Bon Plan said:
Lost ? no.
Australian military top brass were very satisfied with the R&D effort. It's only one corrupted (and idiot) Aussie that decided to halt the deal, to give Austalia to USA.
They will have to pay at least 'th the price, with probably no australian content, and with a first capacity end 2030 early 2040.
What a nice deal !
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Are you building the sub? No. So lost. French talking about submarine deal corruption is kinda ironic. You guys perfected it.
 
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Gautam said:
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Updates on the Scorpene with NMRL-Thermax-L&T PAFC: -
1. Order placed for 1 x PAFC Unit by Mazagon Dock Ltd.
2. INS Kalavari goes into NR (Nominal Refit) somewhere in 2026.
3. NR initially planned for 24 months but may take up to 36 months if integration challenges crop up.
4. Naval Group is providing integration consultancy during the NR process and the length of the submarine will increase by 7 metres.
5. The existing vessels will be fitted with the PAFC AIP as per their individual NR schedules.
6. The 3 new Scorpenes built by MDL will be stretch versions from the outset and will be equipped by the same PAFC AIP.
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The commencement of production plate cutting ceremony for the first Air Independent Propulsion system for Scorpene class Submarines of (IN) was performed today at MDL in presence of Mr. Biju George, Chairman and Managing Director, who was accompanied by representatives from Indian Navy and other senior officials of MDL.
With this event MDL has commenced construction of the AIP Plug which will be subsequently integrated in the Submarine of P75 Project during the scheduled Normal Refits.

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