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HAL on a war-footing to roll out 4 new Tejas variants in 3 months

Bengaluru: Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) is targeting to roll out the first four Final Operational Clearance (FOC) variants of Light Combat Aircraft Tejas in the next 3 months.
This will bear the series production numbers SP-21 to SP-24, thereby enabling the Indian Air Force (IAF) to smoothen the raising of the second squadron of Tejas to be based at Air Force Station Sulur.
HAL officials say that they are confident of the first flight of SP-21 sometime this month with the aircraft currently undergoing various system integration checks.
In September 2019, HAL officials had told Onmanorama that the SP-21 would fly out by end of December, but a software upgrade ensured that the platform had to wait a little more for the maiden sortie.
Currently SP-21 is undergoing various systems integration checks at the Tejas Division. HAL officials say that the first flight of SP-21 will be a ‘significant achievement,’ as the fighter has been produced within the shortest cycle time from the release of FOC in February 2019.
HAL says two more aircraft (SP-22 and SP-23) are already under equipping stage and SP-24 will be moved to the equipping stage by mid of January.
The target is to produce all four aircraft in this financial year and the balance 12 by March 2021. HAL needs to produce 16 fighters and eight trainers, all based on FOC standards.
“Usually aircraft production cycle time would be 18 to 24 months for the first aircraft from the receipt of drawings and associated documents. LCA Team has taken various proactive measures to ensure good supply chain for achieving this plan. We have taken risks for fabrication of parts much earlier before the release of drawings by way of simulating IOC (Initial Operational Clearance) configuration to FOC standards,” says an official.
As reported by Onmanorama earlier, the FOC block boasts of key features like air-to-air refueling probe, Gsh-23 mm gun, pressure refueling with three drop tank configuration (725 and 800\1200 liters), improved wing navigation lamp, in-flight wind mill relight and tandem pylon to name a few.
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Active production line
The production facility at HAL is abuzz with activities as four sets of airframe structures (SP-25 to SP-28) are under advanced stages of completion. These structures will be ready to move to the coupling stage by end of March 2020.
“In these additional structures being built, one of the airframe structures will be dedicated for MAFT (Main Air-frame Fatigue Test Specimen), which will be used for testing to extend the life of aircraft to minimum 3000 hours of flying. Fabrication of this test specimen will be completed by March 2020,” the official adds.
With HAL opening doors for private players to speedup Tejas production, some of major assembly works are being undertaken at Dynamatics Technology Limited (front fuselage), Alpha Tocol (rear fuselage) and VEM Technologies (centre fuselage).
“All these works are progressing well and are expected to be available for coupling stage by March 2020. With the learning from the first structure build up, partners would be capable of increasing the production rate in the next year,” says the official.
With all these strategies in place, HAL is confident of completing FOC contract of 16 fighters by March 2021, less than 24 months from getting FOC. As per the current plans, HAL might next take up the work of 18 Tejas Trainers from next year to avoid a possible production holiday.
With the orders for 83 TejasMK1As to be inked soon, HAL has already put in place a strategic plan to deliver 16 aircraft per year.
“This will be from 36 months onwards from the date of the contract being signed for Tejas MK1As. And this could be likely from 2022-23 onwards with a target to complete the deliveries within five years (2028),” says the official.
The FOC variants of Tejas will be a ‘tech marvel’ with a series of modifications being incorporated into them. Based on the feedback from IOC-build aircraft, more than 10,000 PQs (Production Queries) have been incorporated into the new variants.
“In FOC variants the designers, engineers and pilots have looked at interchangeability as a key factor. We have daily inspection (DI) panels, drop tanks, hydraulic systems, fuel and environmental control system (ECS) pipelines and canopy in an interchangeable role. As desired, the FOC series will be surely a pilot’s delight,” says the official.
Back at AFS Sulur, the IAF is warming up to receive the newly-minted Tejas fighters from the FOC line so as to form the second Tejas squadron.
Sources confirm that Gp Capt Manish Tolani, who is currently part of the No 45 Squadron Flying Daggers, would be the CO of the second squadron. He has the experience in flying the Tejas, MiG variants and the Hawks.
As this piece goes live, the last of the two fighters from Tejas IOC series (SP-15 & SP-16) are set to head towards AFS Sulur in the next couple of days.
(The writer is an independent aerospace and defence journalist, who blogs at Tarmak007 and tweets @writetake.)
 
HAL on a war-footing to roll out 4 new Tejas variants in 3 months

Bengaluru: Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) is targeting to roll out the first four Final Operational Clearance (FOC) variants of Light Combat Aircraft Tejas in the next 3 months.
This will bear the series production numbers SP-21 to SP-24, thereby enabling the Indian Air Force (IAF) to smoothen the raising of the second squadron of Tejas to be based at Air Force Station Sulur.
HAL officials say that they are confident of the first flight of SP-21 sometime this month with the aircraft currently undergoing various system integration checks.
In September 2019, HAL officials had told Onmanorama that the SP-21 would fly out by end of December, but a software upgrade ensured that the platform had to wait a little more for the maiden sortie.
Currently SP-21 is undergoing various systems integration checks at the Tejas Division. HAL officials say that the first flight of SP-21 will be a ‘significant achievement,’ as the fighter has been produced within the shortest cycle time from the release of FOC in February 2019.
HAL says two more aircraft (SP-22 and SP-23) are already under equipping stage and SP-24 will be moved to the equipping stage by mid of January.
The target is to produce all four aircraft in this financial year and the balance 12 by March 2021. HAL needs to produce 16 fighters and eight trainers, all based on FOC standards.
“Usually aircraft production cycle time would be 18 to 24 months for the first aircraft from the receipt of drawings and associated documents. LCA Team has taken various proactive measures to ensure good supply chain for achieving this plan. We have taken risks for fabrication of parts much earlier before the release of drawings by way of simulating IOC (Initial Operational Clearance) configuration to FOC standards,” says an official.
As reported by Onmanorama earlier, the FOC block boasts of key features like air-to-air refueling probe, Gsh-23 mm gun, pressure refueling with three drop tank configuration (725 and 800\1200 liters), improved wing navigation lamp, in-flight wind mill relight and tandem pylon to name a few.
MM-Tejas-Fotoyogi-2.jpg

Active production line
The production facility at HAL is abuzz with activities as four sets of airframe structures (SP-25 to SP-28) are under advanced stages of completion. These structures will be ready to move to the coupling stage by end of March 2020.
“In these additional structures being built, one of the airframe structures will be dedicated for MAFT (Main Air-frame Fatigue Test Specimen), which will be used for testing to extend the life of aircraft to minimum 3000 hours of flying. Fabrication of this test specimen will be completed by March 2020,” the official adds.
With HAL opening doors for private players to speedup Tejas production, some of major assembly works are being undertaken at Dynamatics Technology Limited (front fuselage), Alpha Tocol (rear fuselage) and VEM Technologies (centre fuselage).
“All these works are progressing well and are expected to be available for coupling stage by March 2020. With the learning from the first structure build up, partners would be capable of increasing the production rate in the next year,” says the official.
With all these strategies in place, HAL is confident of completing FOC contract of 16 fighters by March 2021, less than 24 months from getting FOC. As per the current plans, HAL might next take up the work of 18 Tejas Trainers from next year to avoid a possible production holiday.
With the orders for 83 TejasMK1As to be inked soon, HAL has already put in place a strategic plan to deliver 16 aircraft per year.
“This will be from 36 months onwards from the date of the contract being signed for Tejas MK1As. And this could be likely from 2022-23 onwards with a target to complete the deliveries within five years (2028),” says the official.
The FOC variants of Tejas will be a ‘tech marvel’ with a series of modifications being incorporated into them. Based on the feedback from IOC-build aircraft, more than 10,000 PQs (Production Queries) have been incorporated into the new variants.
“In FOC variants the designers, engineers and pilots have looked at interchangeability as a key factor. We have daily inspection (DI) panels, drop tanks, hydraulic systems, fuel and environmental control system (ECS) pipelines and canopy in an interchangeable role. As desired, the FOC series will be surely a pilot’s delight,” says the official.
Back at AFS Sulur, the IAF is warming up to receive the newly-minted Tejas fighters from the FOC line so as to form the second Tejas squadron.
Sources confirm that Gp Capt Manish Tolani, who is currently part of the No 45 Squadron Flying Daggers, would be the CO of the second squadron. He has the experience in flying the Tejas, MiG variants and the Hawks.
As this piece goes live, the last of the two fighters from Tejas IOC series (SP-15 & SP-16) are set to head towards AFS Sulur in the next couple of days.
(The writer is an independent aerospace and defence journalist, who blogs at Tarmak007 and tweets @writetake.)
4 aircraft in 3 months ain't no war footing. I read from another news source the first two FOC aircraft are to take flight this month.
 
Mention of 23mm canon. Has it been actually tested and certified or its just added to resolve further delays to counter weight balancing issues?

[Plus mention of tandem pylons.

Limited to R73 only or to Derby also?

Plus nothing concrete on trainers as of yet.
Further only thing for twin seaters is that he says is that after completion of 16 FOC from SP21 to SP36 , HAL is to under take production of 18 Trainers
Does this mean the 10 trainers out of 83 MK1A will be actually in FOC standards only ?
 
Mention of 23mm canon. Has it been actually tested and certified or its just added to resolve further delays to counter weight balancing issues?

[Plus mention of tandem pylons.

Limited to R73 only or to Derby also?

Plus nothing concrete on trainers as of yet.
Further only thing for twin seaters is that he says is that after completion of 16 FOC from SP21 to SP36 , HAL is to under take production of 18 Trainers
Does this mean the 10 trainers out of 83 MK1A will be actually in FOC standards only ?
Tejas Mk1 comprises of 16 IOC aircraft and 16 FOC aircraft along with 8 trainer aircraft.
The IOC are later to be upgraded to FOC standard.
It was stated that gun trials will take place this year.
Astra BVR integration on Tejas is under progress(would not take much time I guess as we would not be consulting any other country like we did on the Su30).
 
HAL on a war-footing to roll out 4 new Tejas variants in 3 months

Bengaluru: Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) is targeting to roll out the first four Final Operational Clearance (FOC) variants of Light Combat Aircraft Tejas in the next 3 months.
This will bear the series production numbers SP-21 to SP-24, thereby enabling the Indian Air Force (IAF) to smoothen the raising of the second squadron of Tejas to be based at Air Force Station Sulur.
HAL officials say that they are confident of the first flight of SP-21 sometime this month with the aircraft currently undergoing various system integration checks.
In September 2019, HAL officials had told Onmanorama that the SP-21 would fly out by end of December, but a software upgrade ensured that the platform had to wait a little more for the maiden sortie.
Currently SP-21 is undergoing various systems integration checks at the Tejas Division. HAL officials say that the first flight of SP-21 will be a ‘significant achievement,’ as the fighter has been produced within the shortest cycle time from the release of FOC in February 2019.
HAL says two more aircraft (SP-22 and SP-23) are already under equipping stage and SP-24 will be moved to the equipping stage by mid of January.
The target is to produce all four aircraft in this financial year and the balance 12 by March 2021. HAL needs to produce 16 fighters and eight trainers, all based on FOC standards.
“Usually aircraft production cycle time would be 18 to 24 months for the first aircraft from the receipt of drawings and associated documents. LCA Team has taken various proactive measures to ensure good supply chain for achieving this plan. We have taken risks for fabrication of parts much earlier before the release of drawings by way of simulating IOC (Initial Operational Clearance) configuration to FOC standards,” says an official.
As reported by Onmanorama earlier, the FOC block boasts of key features like air-to-air refueling probe, Gsh-23 mm gun, pressure refueling with three drop tank configuration (725 and 800\1200 liters), improved wing navigation lamp, in-flight wind mill relight and tandem pylon to name a few.
MM-Tejas-Fotoyogi-2.jpg

Active production line
The production facility at HAL is abuzz with activities as four sets of airframe structures (SP-25 to SP-28) are under advanced stages of completion. These structures will be ready to move to the coupling stage by end of March 2020.
“In these additional structures being built, one of the airframe structures will be dedicated for MAFT (Main Air-frame Fatigue Test Specimen), which will be used for testing to extend the life of aircraft to minimum 3000 hours of flying. Fabrication of this test specimen will be completed by March 2020,” the official adds.
With HAL opening doors for private players to speedup Tejas production, some of major assembly works are being undertaken at Dynamatics Technology Limited (front fuselage), Alpha Tocol (rear fuselage) and VEM Technologies (centre fuselage).
“All these works are progressing well and are expected to be available for coupling stage by March 2020. With the learning from the first structure build up, partners would be capable of increasing the production rate in the next year,” says the official.
With all these strategies in place, HAL is confident of completing FOC contract of 16 fighters by March 2021, less than 24 months from getting FOC. As per the current plans, HAL might next take up the work of 18 Tejas Trainers from next year to avoid a possible production holiday.
With the orders for 83 TejasMK1As to be inked soon, HAL has already put in place a strategic plan to deliver 16 aircraft per year.
“This will be from 36 months onwards from the date of the contract being signed for Tejas MK1As. And this could be likely from 2022-23 onwards with a target to complete the deliveries within five years (2028),” says the official.
The FOC variants of Tejas will be a ‘tech marvel’ with a series of modifications being incorporated into them. Based on the feedback from IOC-build aircraft, more than 10,000 PQs (Production Queries) have been incorporated into the new variants.
“In FOC variants the designers, engineers and pilots have looked at interchangeability as a key factor. We have daily inspection (DI) panels, drop tanks, hydraulic systems, fuel and environmental control system (ECS) pipelines and canopy in an interchangeable role. As desired, the FOC series will be surely a pilot’s delight,” says the official.
Back at AFS Sulur, the IAF is warming up to receive the newly-minted Tejas fighters from the FOC line so as to form the second Tejas squadron.
Sources confirm that Gp Capt Manish Tolani, who is currently part of the No 45 Squadron Flying Daggers, would be the CO of the second squadron. He has the experience in flying the Tejas, MiG variants and the Hawks.
As this piece goes live, the last of the two fighters from Tejas IOC series (SP-15 & SP-16) are set to head towards AFS Sulur in the next couple of days.
(The writer is an independent aerospace and defence journalist, who blogs at Tarmak007 and tweets @writetake.)
Finally reservation quota chaaps have risen from sleep........😁😁😂😂

Lazy As holes......😣😣
 
No sir, Its the non reservation chaaps from private industry who have forced these reservation chaaps to accelerate the production as they are ramping up production and sticking to the time lines for delivery of parts.
I recently watched the defensive offensive episode of Major Gaurav Arya. He said our OFB, DRDO etc are full of talent but they are tangled in bureaucracy unlike ISRO which is directly under PMO. He suggested to do the same with our defence institutions. I hate OFB, don't like HAL. I think HAL's work should only be designing. DRDO is pretty much meh... but after watching that episode I'm wondering is bureaucracy the problem ? furthermore i discovered that there is website dedicated to corruption in DRDO. I've read a bunch of answers on quora & other sites how senior scientists behave like babus. If so then maybe Arya sir is right.
 
From current low of 28 squadron, IAF strength is set to rise hereafter

Published January 20, 2020
By Ajai Shukla / Business Standard
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There is finally light at the end of the tunnel for the Indian Air Force (IAF), which is at its lowest point since the 1970s, with just 28 fighter squadrons operational against its authorized 42 squadrons. A senior IAF planner has told Business Standard that the squadron strength will not fall any lower. Starting from 2020, numbers will gradually rise. Three squadrons will be inducted this year, while only two squadrons would be withdrawn from operational service.

One new squadron, which will be raised in Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu in the coming months, will be equipped with new Sukhoi-30MKI fighters, built by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) in Nashik. These fighters will mount the air-launched version of the BrahMos cruise missile, and will be earmarked to carry out maritime strikes against enemy warships in the Bay of Bengal, Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean.

The squadron will be Number 222 Squadron (called Tigersharks), which was initially equipped with the Sukhoi-7 fighter in the 1960s. It then converted to MiG-27 and was retired (or “numberplated”) in 2011, when the MiG-27 fleet was being retired.

In addition, the second squadron of Tejas Mark 1 light combat aircraft (LCA) will be raised in April. The first squadron of Tejas Mark 1 – Number 45 Squadron, called the Flying Daggers – is already operational in Sulur, Tamil Nadu. Now the second will begin receiving its fighters from HAL.

The third squadron to be raised this year will be equipped with the Rafale. Slated to be based in Ambala, Number 17 squadron (called Golden Arrows) will received its first batch of fighters in India by May and is likely to achieve full strength by March 2021.

Meanwhile, on the negative side, the IAF’s last MiG-27 squadron was phased out of service in December; and another MiG-21 squadron is currently being retired.

With HAL Nashik likely to complete delivery in the coming year of all 222 Sukhoi-30MKI contracted by the IAF, the IAF is processing an additional order for 12 more fighters, to replace the fighters lost over the years in accidents. In addition, a significant number of Sukhoi-30MKIs have begun coming up for overhaul each year, in HAL Nashik. The additional fighters now being ordered will function as “replacement fighters” for the ones being overhauled.

Also in the pipeline is a squadron of MiG-29 fighters that Russia has offered India. The IAF is going ahead with the procurement, but officials say the fighters would first have to be fitted out with new avionics and weaponry. This is likely to take 2-3 years.

There is also a global procurement under way for 114 medium fighters. However, this is at a preliminary stage and, given the budgetary constraints, the IAF is not banking on these aircraft joining the fleet any time soon.

In the medium term, the IAF is looking to the Tejas Mark 1A to stabilise, and then raise its squadron numbers. A contract for 83 Tejas Mark 1A will be signed by April, which will add up to four squadrons. The senior official says the IAF has stressed to HAL that it must reach its planned production level of 16 fighters per year. An investment of Rs 1,200 crore has been made to expand HAL’s production capacity.


At present, the IAF’s fleet includes 12 Sukhoi-30MKI squadrons, three MiG-29UPG squadrons, six Jaguar squadrons, three Mirage 2000 squadrons, one Tejas squadron and the last three MiG-21 squadrons.

IAF to increase squadron strength; 3 more to be inducted in 2020
 
Yep, pretty much.



The Nasik line will switch to making MWF. Only Mk1 and Mk1A will be made in Bangalore. HAL is aiming to get another 3 squadrons worth of orders. Then there's some potential for export also. Once the LCA line closes, it can be used to make UAVs and UCAVs, like Ghatak. There's a plan for that SPORT trainer as well.


Apparently not.

What is the Reason for MK1 A taking 3 years to be produced after Contract Signatures

They are working on it for 3 years now

Why has HAL not been able to make and unveil even one Production Model of MK1 A
 
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What is the Reason for MK1 A taking 3 years to be produced after Contract Signatures

They are working on it for 3 years now

Why has HAL not been able to make and unveil even one Production Model of MK1 A
you can sign sub contracts and source materials after the Contract has been signed. the lead time will always be high for the first flight but lesser for later aircraft (or any product really).

this is also the case for how our flawed planning keeps our supply chains from forming into an efficient machine. but we can only work with what we have.
 
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What is the Reason for MK1 A taking 3 years to be produced after Contract Signatures

They are working on it for 3 years now

Why has HAL not been able to make and unveil even one Production Model of MK1 A

Three years is how long it takes to build an aircraft from scratch. Before this they took time to design and then configure the aircraft.
 
Three years is how long it takes to build an aircraft from scratch. Before this they took time to design and then configure the aircraft.

I strongly believe that IAF must be having Contingency plans for Both MK 1A and MWF
Ie MK 2 failing to deliver

Their entire force planning will fall apart

They cannot and will not close down the Su 30 production , only on HAL assurances about Mk.1A and MWF
 
I strongly believe that IAF must be having Contingency plans for Both MK 1A and MWF
Ie MK 2 failing to deliver

Their entire force planning will fall apart

They cannot and will not close down the Su 30 production , only on HAL assurances about Mk.1A and MWF

MKI production will end regardless of whether LCA/MWF is a success or failure. The contingency plan for LCA/MWF's failure would be an imported SE MII of course.
 
I strongly believe that IAF must be having Contingency plans for Both MK 1A and MWF
Ie MK 2 failing to deliver

Their entire force planning will fall apart

They cannot and will not close down the Su 30 production , only on HAL assurances about Mk.1A and MWF

MKIA is a done deal, may be get delayed in supplying the ACs. If MWF fails, we should buy more rafales under 114 deal.