They are just going to show Twin Racks for Missiles
The real achievement would be to test
The 100 KM glide bomb from LCA
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They are just going to show Twin Racks for Missiles
The real achievement would be to test
The 100 KM glide bomb from LCA
Lot of tenders of LCA divison are out during this december 2020...the deal will get sign soon
Link: https://hal-india.co.in/Tenders/M__63
Interview with HAL.chief
Posting Excerpts relating to Mk 1A
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Q )
HAL’s Aircraft Research and Design Centre (ARDC) has completed the structural design of the new variant of Light Combat Aircraft, called Tejas Mk1A. What is the present status of the project and how it will be a game changer for the fighter fleet of India?
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There are quite a few new System/Sensors like AESA Radar, EW Suite, DMG etc. and Stores Like ASRAAM to be integrated in LCA Mk1A to enhance the performance and potent of the aircraft. There are also a few improvements and strengthening required on the Structural Design for better operations and maintainability. All these re-design/ modification to design, of not only the structure but also the electrical wiring, cooling system etc. have been completed.
HAL is still awaiting the order from IAF for the Mk1A aircraft but notwithstanding, with internal funds, have progressed the above-mentioned re- design as well as gone ahead in-house development of the various Systems and software. The Mk1A Aircraft when inducted (in 3 years from contract) will be a game changer with its State-of-the- Art Systems and Weapons.
Posting Excerpts relating to Mk 1A
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Q )
HAL’s Aircraft Research and Design Centre (ARDC) has completed the structural design of the new variant of Light Combat Aircraft, called Tejas Mk1A. What is the present status of the project and how it will be a game changer for the fighter fleet of India?
Ans )
There are quite a few new System/Sensors like AESA Radar, EW Suite, DMG etc. and Stores Like ASRAAM to be integrated in LCA Mk1A to enhance the performance and potent of the aircraft. There are also a few improvements and strengthening required on the Structural Design for better operations and maintainability. All these re-design/ modification to design, of not only the structure but also the electrical wiring, cooling system etc. have been completed.
HAL is still awaiting the order from IAF for the Mk1A aircraft but notwithstanding, with internal funds, have progressed the above-mentioned re- design as well as gone ahead in-house development of the various Systems and software. The Mk1A Aircraft when inducted (in 3 years from contract) will be a game changer with its State-of-the- Art Systems and Weapons.
Nobody seems to be keen on asking the most important question, weight reduction.
I have also posted an interview with
ADA chief in Tejas MK 2 thread
He is also speaking about improvement and modifications in MK 1A
Let us wait and watch
The Best part of the interview with
HAL chief And ADA Chief is that
MK 1A will be a Really very good fighter plane
Quite Reassuring ,I must say
I was wondering whether all these delays mean another mess up
Forget all the timelines given in aero india mag...
Mk2 was to be rolled out in 2019 I think..
According to old aero mag..
I posted that many times.. And finally turned out biggest disappointment.
Some else where saying going by tender that are still out for LRU , it ll be more realistic, if roll out is mentioned 2025+
When Mk2 talks were surfaces & its induction timeline, in a defense forum our western border pakistani members mocked us a lot. One member even predicted that by the time Mk2 made its first flight Jf17 bk3 will be a part of PAF, asper news PAF has received its first blk3.
And is JF-17 Block-3 better than even LCA MK1 foc let alone upgraded M2K, mig29, su30mki? Fact is LCA MK1 foc in its current state is far far better than even JF-17 Block-3. Contract for LCA MK1A (which will be far ahead of anything Pakistan will be able to field on our western borders in near future J10 counted) will be signed next month during Aero India show with delivery starting 2023 end and all 83 delivered before 2027. Production is being scaled up for 20lca/month with all the bottle necks being removed with the current order of 40 and 18 trainers. ( Remember HAL delivered 31 helicopters in 2019-20, so it's quite possible for HAL to deliver 20 LCA per year once all bottle necks are removed)
By the way LCA MK2 (which will be better than any fighter which Pakistan may be able to afford in future) metal cutting is about to begin this year itself with first flight by 2023 end or first half of 2024. All 4 prototypes will be production standard with production commencing alongside the production of LCA MK1A. Then there is also TEDBF and AMCA which will be just too much for Pakistan to handle...
So chill JF-17 any block is modern day Terracotta Army of China all show no teeth used just too scare enemies....
China Pak JF-17
It may or may not be a flying brick, but they are maintaining the timeline which we never achieves in any if our defense project.And is JF-17 Block-3 better than even LCA MK1 foc let alone upgraded M2K, mig29, su30mki? Fact is LCA MK1 foc in its current state is far far better than even JF-17 Block-3. Contract for LCA MK1A (which will be far ahead of anything Pakistan will be able to field on our western borders in near future J10 counted) will be signed next month during Aero India show with delivery starting 2023 end and all 83 delivered before 2027. Production is being scaled up for 20lca/month with all the bottle necks being removed with the current order of 40 and 18 trainers. ( Remember HAL delivered 31 helicopters in 2019-20, so it's quite possible for HAL to deliver 20 LCA per year once all bottle necks are removed)
By the way LCA MK2 (which will be better than any fighter which Pakistan may be able to afford in future) metal cutting is about to begin this year itself with first flight by 2023 end or first half of 2024. All 4 prototypes will be production standard with production commencing alongside the production of LCA MK1A. Then there is also TEDBF and AMCA which will be just too much for Pakistan to handle...
So chill JF-17 any block is modern day Terracotta Army of China all show no teeth used just too scare enemies....
China Pak JF-17
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Ever since the IAF has reluctantly accepted the Tejas, they are insisting on making the best out of what they got. The improvements on Tejas Mk1A are towards easier, quicker maintenance at the Airforce base and not to ferry the jet to HAL. That said, it was reported earlier in 2020 that 2 LSP aircrafts have started the trails on the improvements that have been already made.
They aren't doing any R&D, just plonking unproven Chinese substandard systems into a 3rd generation Russian airframe which isn't much a big deal, while we are developing a whole aeronautical ecosystem along with aeronautical military industrial complex and not just a fighter plane. Once that is completed no matter a few years delay we will be churning out a variety of fighters like LCA MK1A, LCA MK2, TEDBF, AMCA at much faster rates and with more subsystems being made in India.
Just look at ISRO they took years to come at the level they are now and now we're self reliant in space arena and in fact offering services to other nations too. Same thing will be repeated with fighter planes.
Where we're aiming for a complete ecosystem which is tougher and prone to delays they're in a hurry to induct whatever they can lay their hands on which is not the case with IAF as they already have enough punch for western borders while holding onto eastern border right now. 2030s will be interesting times for us and Pakistan if they survive by then...
I have an proposition for HAL. Buy few xerox machines on Amazon and print thousands copies of that “superior Teja bhai mk420” fighter jet on A4 size paper, that is superior to Thunda Miyan 17bloke3 and destribute it at every IAF base so that they can use this superior plane right now.And is JF-17 Block-3 better than even LCA MK1 foc let alone upgraded M2K, mig29, su30mki? Fact is LCA MK1 foc in its current state is far far better than even JF-17 Block-3. Contract for LCA MK1A (which will be far ahead of anything Pakistan will be able to field on our western borders in near future J10 counted) will be signed next month during Aero India show with delivery starting 2023 end and all 83 delivered before 2027. Production is being scaled up for 20lca/month with all the bottle necks being removed with the current order of 40 and 18 trainers. ( Remember HAL delivered 31 helicopters in 2019-20, so it's quite possible for HAL to deliver 20 LCA per year once all bottle necks are removed)
By the way LCA MK2 (which will be better than any fighter which Pakistan may be able to afford in future) metal cutting is about to begin this year itself with first flight by 2023 end or first half of 2024. All 4 prototypes will be production standard with production commencing alongside the production of LCA MK1A. Then there is also TEDBF and AMCA which will be just too much for Pakistan to handle...
So chill JF-17 any block is modern day Terracotta Army of China all show no teeth used just too scare enemies....
China Pak JF-17
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The thing is IAF doesn’t need futuristic Teja bhai big mack 420 in future which can rivel intergalactic spaceships but a good enough fighter jet to tackle Thunda bhai block 1/2/3 in present
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Ya,
We need few Mig Bison to counter PAF, if blunder Junk don't cracked due to structural fatigue during take off, or crashed due to engine failures.
Home grown or not,PAF is getting a brand new fighter in numbers, on the other hand IAF is struggling to keep up the numbers because we failed to design and develop Tejas on time.They aren't doing any R&D, just plonking unproven Chinese substandard systems into a 3rd generation Russian airframe which isn't much a big deal, while we are developing a whole aeronautical ecosystem along with aeronautical military industrial complex and not just a fighter plane. Once that is completed no matter a few years delay we will be churning out a variety of fighters like LCA MK1A, LCA MK2, TEDBF, AMCA at much faster rates and with more subsystems being made in India.
Just look at ISRO they took years to come at the level they are now and now we're self reliant in space arena and in fact offering services to other nations too. Same thing will be repeated with fighter planes.
Where we're aiming for a complete ecosystem which is tougher and prone to delays they're in a hurry to induct whatever they can lay their hands on which is not the case with IAF as they already have enough punch for western borders while holding onto eastern border right now. 2030s will be interesting times for us and Pakistan if they survive by then...
And they were forced to accept an uncooked numbers mk1 variant, and going for a half cooked mk1a as a stop gap measure prior to a fully cooked Mk2 LCA
Yeah future Abhinandans would be pleased to hear that. I mean who wouldn’t want to “stop over” in the enemy cantonememt for a cup of good tea and Some cosmetic upgrades free of cost.
W.C. Abhinandan ' s Mig 21 was shot down because PAF had a BAR - CAP at that point of time and at that location
If you look carefully , the " Dog Fight " was Won by India and Abhinandan
Because he was able to manuver his plane and get a Lock on F 16
They only shot their Amraams blindly at Su 30
And because of that pre existing
BAR CAP the MiG 21 went down
In a Real One on One situation , MiG 21 will again shoot down JF 17
JF 17 cannot undergo more than 5G of stress
Its structural problems are real
It is meant for BAR CAP and long range BVR shots
In a small skirmish you can get both AWACS and BAR -CAPs
But not in a large scale conflict at every time and every sector
In a "Surge Operation " scenario
JF 17s engine and airframe , both will fail
LCA MK 1 can do 3 sorties in One day
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