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Mk1 and MK1A are basically same
That means the maximum production rate achieved won't reduce during the switch between mk1 and mk1 A right.?

I think the max rate intended is 16 / year right ..
That means mk1A production can start at the rate of 16/ year even form first year right?

Supposing mk2 is delayed when would be the ideal time to place additional orders for mk1A?

Assuming 3 years before the end of mk1A production would be ideal that means 2-3 years into the production of mk1 A we will have to decide about additional orders.right ?
 
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randomradio said:
Regardless of the terrible translation, I think he's saying he doesn't have information on performance, weapons and logistics yet.

Anyway we use a British ejection seat, so we can't offer it to them with the same seat.
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The Argentine Air Force(FAA) operates the Texan-II, which uses the same ejection seat as the Tejas which is the Martin Baker Mk16. In fact all frontline fixed wing aircraft they operate use Martin Baker ejection seats except the Douglas A-4. Martin Baker even has a local entity in Argentina to market and maintain their products there. They supposedly source the components from Martin Baker Italy aka SICAMB.

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The real problem we face is the Cobham IFR probe and radome, while there is an existing alternative indigenous Kevlar radome with lower performance used on early prototypes and Jags and a future one for the Tejas Mk2 which should be ready ideally soon we must see what will transpire.
 
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@Gautam @randomradio

Mk1 and MK1A are basically same
That means the maximum production rate achieved won't reduce during the switch between mk1 and mk1 A right.?

I think the max rate intended is 16 / year right ..
That means mk1A production can start at the rate of 16/ year even form first year right?

Supposing mk2 is delayed when would be the ideal time to place additional orders for mk1A?

Assuming 3 years before the end of mk1A production would be ideal that means 2-3 years into the production of mk1 A we will have to decide about additional orders.right ?
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Mk1 and Mk1A are almost the same. Mk1A will see weight reduction and further refinement of the airframe.

The production rate is actually 19/year, and HAL intends to add 8 more to the kitty to cater to exports. It could go even beyond that as well, depending on how the export market reacts to the jet.

Even if Mk2 is delayed, it won't be delayed for too long since HAL plans to implement concurrency. Meaning the jet will enter production the same year as its first flight. At the very least 2 jets will enter production in 2023. The Mk2 use the same airframe as Mk1, with two additional plugs that stretch the fuselage, so there's no redesign involved. HAL is pushing for 3 more squadrons of Mk1A, but I think the IAF will go for the Mk2 instead.
 
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@randomradio. is this just IAF usual shoddy maintenance work or something wrong with paint or composite material ?
Theses jets are brand new and haven’t been deployed yet. Looking in terrible shape.
 
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All it needs is a wash.
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So all they have to do was a quick wash before this photo session and they managed to ignore it.

One must give it to IAF. They have piss poor work ethics and suck at doing anything a competent AF is supposed to do.
No wonder they were rendered red faced and speechless on 27 Feb 19.
I still remember that press conference by Arup Raha guy which had almost killed LCA.
 
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AbRaj said:
So all they have to do was a quick wash before this photo session and they managed to ignore it.

One must give it to IAF. They have piss poor work ethics and suck at doing anything a competent AF is supposed to do.
No wonder they were rendered red faced and speechless on 27 Feb 19.
I still remember that press conference by Arup Raha guy which had almost killed LCA.
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All that because they didn't wash their jet before a photo op?

In actual fact, that's the kinda photo people actually like to see. When you look at photos of military equipment, the best photos are those that have wear and tear. It implies the equipment is being used, a lot, which implies the force is well-trained.

Let's keep the squeaky clean stuff for air shows and induction photo ops.
 
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randomradio said:
All that because they didn't wash their jet before a photo op?

In actual fact, that's the kinda photo people actually like to see. When you look at photos of military equipment, the best photos are those that have wear and tear. It implies the equipment is being used, a lot, which implies the force is well-trained.

Let's keep the squeaky clean stuff for air shows and induction photo ops.
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In our line of work, there’s a saying that If you don’t respect your equipment/instrument, the equipment will not respect you.
Fighter jets are extremely critical equipment and demand critical level of maintenance and care.
These guys are known for shoddy maintenance and they aren’t even trying to change it. This picture is testament to their infamy
 
Tejas Trainer construction would start in Q3 of 2022.

All 18 (4 for IOC2 tranche, 4 from FOC tranche and 10 from MK1A tranche ) will have the same configuration.

All will be equipped with weapons integrated in FOC. Also IFR will be there.

No confirmation yet on if the certification is complete.

Also no update on gun of the whole mk1/a.
 
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Ankit Kumar said:
Tejas Trainer construction would start in Q3 of 2022.

All 18 (4 for IOC2 tranche, 4 from FOC tranche and 10 from MK1A tranche ) will have the same configuration.

All will be equipped with weapons integrated in FOC. Also IFR will be there.

No confirmation yet on if the certification is complete.

Also no update on gun of the whole mk1/a.
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AFAIK, HAL intends to deliver most of the trainers in just 1 year.
 
If FOC tejas mk1 and Mk1A are similar except for avionics, why Mk1 A is planned for make only 2 in first year?
 
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