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@lcafanboy Su30 was ordered in several batches to make a total of 273. When was the recent order of 40 Su30 done above this?

@STEPHEN COHEN the LCA is producing a small quantity of tejas now. When it expands production, the Su30 line will eventually have to be given new orders and that is where Tejas will fit in. HAL chief was worried last time about low orders and Su30 ending soon. The 83 more orders will give work to those people.

Mk1A completion is not the only issue but employment to Su30 assembly workers is also a factor. People can't be simply thrown out irresponsibly
 
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more Su-30MKI fighters
By Dylan Malyasov 11, February, 2016   Country: India,Russia 
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The Indian Air Force (IAF) has initiated the procurement of a fresh lot of 40 additional Su-30MKI air dominance fighters at an estimated $75 million apiece, reliable diplomatic sources disclosed to Arming India.

The procurement is being taken up as a follow-on order to the 222 Su-30MKI fighters already contracted to be made under transfer of technology at Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL)’s Nasik division.

Along with the initial 50 aircraft acquired in a flyaway condition from Russia in the late 1990s, the latest increment of 40 aircraft will take the total number of Su-30MKIs ordered for the IAF to 312.

Indian Air Force to buy 40 more Su-30MKI fighters - Defence Blog
Manohar Parrikar placed this order I suppose due to delay in Rafale delay and on HAL chief insistence to retain jobs at Nashik plant. Also Wikipedia confirms 314 MKI orders.

Also these 40 will come with Brahmos launch capabilities.
 
@lcafanboy yes India initiated but it did not order. Just like S400 was initiated but not ordered. I had read similar thing in IRDW or Sputnik but the Lok Sabha was given a list of orders which had only 185 Su30 mentioned
 
@lcafanboy yes India initiated but it did not order. Just like S400 was initiated but not ordered. I had read similar thing in IRDW or Sputnik but the Lok Sabha was given a list of orders which had only 185 Su30 mentioned
Today on Zee news there was program on Brahmos integration with su30mki and all new su30mki are being made with this feature. HAL chief too mentioned the order for more 40 su30mki. I think there will be a follow on order to keep lines open to arrest Sqdn shortfall as 6 MIG 21 & 2 MIG 27 will retire by 2024.
 
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Not sure. I saw his replies to anatha krishnan Twitter handle writetake .
I didn't have Twitter account.. Couldn't invite him.
I think he should be knowing this place.
His absence is Very strange .At this point of time , that's all I've to remark .
 
@lcafanboy Su30 was ordered in several batches to make a total of 273. When was the recent order of 40 Su30 done above this?

@STEPHEN COHEN the LCA is producing a small quantity of tejas now. When it expands production, the Su30 line will eventually have to be given new orders and that is where Tejas will fit in. HAL chief was worried last time about low orders and Su30 ending soon. The 83 more orders will give work to those people.

Mk1A completion is not the only issue but employment to Su30 assembly workers is also a factor. People can't be simply thrown out irresponsibly

Just wait and watch ; all this Over confidence regarding Mk 1 A will soon be busted
 
Seeing Tejas on RD Parade was a Proud Moment.
It shows the Confidence of Our Nation, A single engine JET Over RajPath...

Jai Hind, Jai Hind - Jai Jai Jai Hind
 
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Not sure. I saw his replies to anatha krishnan Twitter handle writetake .
I didn't have Twitter account.. Couldn't invite him.
I think he should be knowing this place.
he know about this site ,infact it was from him that i get to know about this site ,when i asked from him why parikrama and other guys were not active on previous forum
so issue might be sth else
 
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he know about this site ,infact it was from him that i get to know about this site ,when i asked from him why parikrama and other guys were not active on previous forum
so issue might be sth else

ok ,, newbies taunted him in the old site.. since he is almost always critical..
it takes time to know his concern for the country & level of his knowledge.
Might not have had joyful experience ..

alas he may be around reading.. may join later.
 
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ok ,, newbies taunted him in the old site.. since he is almost always critical..
it takes time to know his concern for the country & level of his knowledge.
Might not have had joyful experience ..

alas he may be around reading.. may join later.
He is biased, not critical. He has no basis for speaking many things and even advocates Gripen as far better than Tejas while stating that Tejas doesn't have indigenous engines or AESA adar (which even Gripen don't). Being foolishly biased and consistently insisting on his own views by moving in circles is what he does. Obvioudly, he will be taunted
 
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‘Intelligent’ Tejas does the ‘talking’; pilots & engineers are not complaining

BENGALURU: Close to one-and-a-half-years after the first Light Combat Aircraft Tejas joined the Indian Air Force (IAF) fleet officially, the No 45 Sqn Flying Daggers that flies the desi bird is now ready for bigger operational challenges.

Raised in Bengaluru on July 1, 2016, the Flying Daggers are a now formidable combat air unit with a bunch of young pilots who sleeps, eats and breathes Tejas.

During an interaction granted to this Correspondent, it was evident that the boys are confident of the machine that they operate, its abilities and the possibilities it offers in future. In fact, they call Tejas an ‘intelligent talking plane’.

The Flying Daggers are now under the operational control of Southern Air Command (SAC), headquartered at Thiruvananthapuram through the Aircraft and Systems Testing Establishment (ASTE) located at Bengaluru.

The Intelligent, Talking Plane

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The all-important ground-support crew of the Flying Daggers.

A lot has been talked and written about Tejas. A lot has been written off about the platform as well. But when the user, who is locked on to the goals of flying a swift, sure and safe machine, speaks about the qualities of the fighter, it might be music to the ears to those who reposed faith on Tejas.

Wg Cdr Chandra Sekhar Hiremath (Hire), Senior Engineering Officer with the Flying Daggers says that Indian software brains have ensured that the best have gone into Tejas.

“All the systems in this aircraft run on software. This has ensured that the aircraft speaks to you. It tells you what all it is capable of and what it cannot do. The aircraft also tells you what is wrong with it. As an engineer, you need not break your head to diagnose technical issues,” says Wg Cdr Hiremath.

Wg Cdr Samarth Dhankar (Danny), Flight Commander and Flight Combat Leader is the first non-Test Pilot to have flown the Tejas. Now the No 2 man in the squadron, he terms Tejas as a compact lethal package.

“In spite of being so light, it is so agile and so responsive to your control inputs. It is fully loaded with sensors and state-of-the-art avionics. It is a wonderful feeling to display what you do. Flying over Rajpath has always been special as the nationalistic feelings peak during Republic Day,” says Danny.

Wg Cdr Manish Tolani, a Squadron pilot and Qualified Flying Instructor, who has flown the MiG variants and the Hawks, says Tejas combines the best of the Russian and western philosophies of military aviation.

“Tejas is a designer’s marvel. The Test Pilots and the designers have brought in the best of all fleets across the world and put in a small platform and that makes it unique. It is an intelligent combination of the best systems in the world,” says Wg Cdr Tolani.

Sulur Calling

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Gp Capt M Rangachari, first CO of Flying Daggers, has his task cut out.
For Gp Capt Madhav Rangachari (Ranga), the first Commanding Officer of Flying Daggers, it has been a very demanding task to set up a new squadron.

Right from sourcing chairs, tables to forming SOPs, broad guidelines and maintenance procedures, to ensuring the availability of planes for his boys to fly, Ranga has probably lost some hair in the last one year.

In addition, he had a huge task to prove that Tejas is an operational platform and no more an ‘air show bird,’ with smoke winders on.

“Tough task I must say, but then we have been trained to be tougher,” says Ranga, who was flying the Mirage 2000s, before moving to Flying Daggers.

His crew has grown to eight pilots, four engineering officers and one logistics man now, in addition to set of ground crew, who play a significant role like the pilots.

“It is planned that the Flying Daggers will be eventually based at Sulur which is near Coimbatore and we hope to move to the new base in the later part of this year. Full-fledged base upgradation activities are on in Sulur and we have to ensure that all facilities are set, before we move out,” he says.

Flying Daggers hope to have a dozen of Tejas Series Production versions in their fleet before they move out of Bengaluru. With six in their kitty, the IAF hopes that Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) will deliver the remaining birds on priority.

“Every new pilot who joins the squadron first goes through a grueling ground training session for several weeks. He then flies on the Tejas simulator followed by sorties on the trainer or two-seater version (PV5 & PV 6) and later they get to fly the Tejas solo. After its developmental flight tests by the National Flight Test Center, the Flying Daggers have started operational training and flying on this aircraft. Our flying and maintenance related inputs as users, are being collated for further design improvements on this aircraft,” says Ranga, who has so far flown over 300 sorties, clocking 200-plus hours.

More of details at : ‘Intelligent’ Tejas does the ‘talking’; pilots & engineers are not complaining
 
He is biased, not critical. He has no basis for speaking many things and even advocates Gripen as far better than Tejas while stating that Tejas doesn't have indigenous engines or AESA adar (which even Gripen don't). Being foolishly biased and consistently insisting on his own views by moving in circles is what he does. Obvioudly, he will be taunted

We are atleast a decade behind in development and numbers built .
 
We are atleast a decade behind in development and numbers built .
Tejas Mk1 was ordered n 2006 itself for 20 planes. But, not 1 was delivered till 2014. Tell me now, is it the problem of scientists of politics? Engine, radar were already decided to be imports for the time being back then itself. Where was the problem in developing Tejas then? Political problem must not be compared with technological problem.
 
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