Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

We are Biding our time

We need not rush into anything

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This Rouge General is responsible for this standoff



Yep. He's the caveman incharge of all these stoneage tactics.
 
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Maybe Rafale are already flying within Indian airspace. The training time was expedited and MAYBE the aircraft are already in India. But the biggest problem is that to save cost we trained very few pilots and therefore we can't exploit the limited numbers optimally. But Rafale can help us generate a library of enemy radars and counter measures which can be fed to the threat library of other fighters.

If Rafales are flying in India, there should at least be 4 of them. And we have 7 pilots coming in. I suppose the numbers are enough for round the clock sorties as long as the two-seats are flown by just 1 pilot.
 
Govt needs to improve its communication on such important matters. In his entire speech, post APM, there was no reference to the Galwan. The PM may have rererred to Galwan in the actual meet, but how are people, like us, who were not in the meet to know that his reference to "no incursion, no occupation", was only with reference to Galwan. Maybe the entire APM was aboit the incident on Galwan and Pangong lake events were not discussed. PM Modi needs to get better inputs while preparing the speech on such sensitive matters.
They have most clever ones for communication, sometimes too clever for own good, watch that clip again, look at body language, you'll understand why those words were chosen, it's not unintentional, it's not lack of input.
 
They have most clever ones for communication, sometimes too clever for own good, watch that clip again, look at body language, you'll understand why those words were chosen, it's not unintentional, it's not lack of input.

I do believe the words chosen after much deliberation, but they should have considered not insulting the intelligence of thinking and informed citizen.
 
Ajay Shukla was surrounded & verbally assaulted at an India Today program hosted by Rahul Kanwal attended by participants like Col Bhat - your friend, Nitin Gokhale, Bharat Karnad, Col Dinny, Gaurav Sawant & Abhijit Mitra Iyer among others - the last of whom dug out articles & tweets of Shukla writing that we lost the entire Galwan valley in 2013 itself. That was the last straw. Shukla stormed out of the virtual discussion.
Have seen the first part of it, can you give me the link please...
 
In the case of multiple fronts hostilities, should we allow US fighters to operate from our airbases?? We have 400+ of them, we could easily host entire USAF.
@vstol Jockey @randomradio @Saaho

I don't think so.. Then in future US will use our bases permanently and that is not something India will want. Had India given than proposal to US, they would have disowned Pakistan long time back. But we didn't do it coz we don't want another country's military operating from our soil.
 
If Rafales are flying in India, there should at least be 4 of them. And we have 7 pilots coming in. I suppose the numbers are enough for round the clock sorties as long as the two-seats are flown by just 1 pilot.
But it takes time for the squadron to evolve tactics..
 
Ajay Shukla was surrounded & verbally assaulted at an India Today program hosted by Rahul Kanwal attended by participants like Col Bhat - your friend, Nitin Gokhale, Bharat Karnad, Col Dinny, Gaurav Sawant & Abhijit Mitra Iyer among others - the last of whom dug out articles & tweets of Shukla writing that we lost the entire Galwan valley in 2013 itself. That was the last straw. Shukla stormed out of the virtual discussion.

Good. Do we have link up somewhere of this?
 
India has informed China about the changed rules both at military and diplomatic levels.
why ? why do we need to inform them , do they honor the agreements. What will they do if we break them? they will go around accusing us but who in the world will even be interested in listening to them. We removed the element of surprise and are giving too much respect to thugs. chinese will not only prepare for it but also see it as a sign of weakness and empty threat. India should stop this nonsense of talking first. We need to act first and talk later. That will send home the message. The idiots in foreign office think by informing them it will make us look bold but it only shows submissiveness.
 
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Please show me one proof of what you have stated.

Proof is they were falling in river after 16 Bihar mounted the counter assault, that means the PLA G-F have occupied heights and ridges and other features in front of the road to block the supplies through arty shelling, exactly like Pakistan occupies along Drass on the nothernly peaks. And if PLA-GF have vacated then what is the negotiation going on for, and why Rajnath ji flying to Russia suddenly, war emergency financial support given go ahead? One feature has been perhaps forcefully vacated on 15th-16th but there seem to be many. Pattern explains that.

This is similar to Kargil 2.0
 
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Then how come china screws both of us at same time?
Democracies forces people to be short term greedy because you have to show progress in 5 years. So, they are forced to make choices which are short term. Like peace initiatives. Like preserving and growing harmful businesses in short term. All to manage perception during election. Democracies are inefficient like that.
 
Folks, there is one more thing that I have said before and I see it happen more often than I would like. Refering to Chinese Controlled land in Ladakh as Chinese Land. It is happening in Media, Heck even our PM is responsible for false oversimplification of a complex reality for what appears to be scoring political points.


ALL the damn land near Finger 4-8. Sirijap etc, ALL the damn land in Galwan valley, this and that side of LAC IS Indian LAND. Dem Choq is Indian Land Occupied by Chinese. Period. This narrative that it is on "Chinese Side" is WRONG. Its NOT Chinese side. Its Chinese OCCUPIED land on Indian side.
 
Why do I feel these are all sleeper cell Chinese slaves that get activated to question Indian statements so as to weaken our positions. The same thing happened after balakot where our own media started questioning before the Pakistanis and created doubt to the point the whole narrative got derailed. Same shit is happening now more than 40+ coronas have died but that has been quietly brushed aside and the whole narrative is getting derailed from unexpected performance of our forces to "muh weak government". It's like a deliberate attempt to malign the government wish this sort of attacking was done during congress era when we happily gave away land like cowards. It's so well coordinated that it looks natural. Traitors all of them. This time Chinese dont even have any own info war penetration they are using indian statements of our guys to manipulate us. Either we are incompetent or the whole game is rigged against us...
 
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