Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

It was always a certainty sir. Both of our enemies know very well that they can't take on us alone. Only chance they have is in a two front war. This was one of the many reasons that Pakistanis shifted towards Chinese weapon systems. To increase interoperability.

I too support it. We must have an in-depth discussion about all the aspects of two front conflict.

The move to Chinese systems was largely due to financial constraints than anything else. Pakistan was wary of the Chinese equipment after its experiences with the "China Divisions" raised after the US embargo of 65.

Musharraf had tried his best to get the Russians to sell him SU-30s but the Russians did not want to lose India for Pakistan.
 
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Sir , please explain in some more detail
About the likely sequence of events
Does this mean that the Two front conflict is now certain
No question about it. PLAAF going to Pak is a direct pointer to it. How does de-escalation meet this idea?

With this attitude, Modi has to do nothing to come out with shining colors. He is already victorious of all wars he is yet to fight.
We will have to fight the war all by ourselves. let their be no doubt. between China and India whoever looses, the western world wins.

If US is helping us , let us attack them soon
Wake up and Smell the Coffee
India US alliance will happen
PLAAF has sent planes to Pakistan
Doval did , he is missing since several days
we wargamed it in 2016. With PLA, PLAN & PLAAF operating from Pakistan soil. That was the only way they could have had a chance in two front war. We also knew that Chinese will allow Pakistan to be taken out in pre-emptive nuke strikes without exposing their own and also force Pakistan to attack us with nukes to cripple us. They will loose a few but Pakistan will be wiped out and India will be greatly put back. A nuke strike from Pakistan does not force us to launch nukes on China.
BUT
Chineses forget a lot of things. I was supposed to post an appriciation of this scenario on last Friday night. But decided to withhold and not post it. I am from Indian Armed forces and my thinking is alighned the way we think in our forces. Chinese are doing things exactly like we thought them to do. They are not trapping us, we are trapping them. They are walking into our trap. Just the way Pak nuke strikes do not force us to launch nukes on China similarly nukes launched on us will allow QUAD to destroy China. Quid pro quo. Even Russians have wargamed it and told China to lay off. But Russinas now think that they have chance to take over large part of Chinese territory and increase their influence in the world and replace China.
The world will have over 220 million less muslims very very soon. A free Tibet and East Turkmenistan soon. Ertrugul may be a hit in Pakistan but India will be worshipped in Muslim world for setting those muslims free when whole muslim ummah failed to do it and infect did nothing.
China is taking time thru diplomacy. We are tracking their subs which are coming into IOR for last 40 days. We are tracking them and ready to sink them. QUAD is very much in play.
Donald Duck is suffering from very serious mental problem. Something like brain Tumour. he is out of the game. Infect USA is out of the game and so is NATO. I had stated a few weeks back that India must mobilise and call everyone between 18-40 for military service. My dau is already wearing a uniform as defender of the nation and my son is 18.5 years old and I have told him to fight for the nation and he is ready to even serve as a sipahi/sepoy.
Nations are build by the blood of the youth and experience of elders. Let the youth rise up to do their duty for the nation in the footsteps of their forefathers.
 
Oli may be bad,but after all he is our brother. No matter how insanenbour brother become,one will not act against his own brother, instead we will destroy that ugly relationship he fell in....

Commies are brothers of commies like Islamist are brothers of Islamist. No need to be sensitive for them.


Commies
 
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No question about it. PLAAF going to Pak is a direct pointer to it. How does de-escalation meet this idea?


We will have to fight the war all by ourselves. let their be no doubt. between China and India whoever looses, the western world wins.



we wargamed it in 2016. With PLA, PLAN & PLAAF operating from Pakistan soil. That was the only way they could have had a chance in two front war. We also knew that Chinese will allow Pakistan to be taken out in pre-emptive nuke strikes without exposing their own and also force Pakistan to attack us with nukes to cripple us. They will loose a few but Pakistan will be wiped out and India will be greatly put back. A nuke strike from Pakistan does not force us to launch nukes on China.
BUT
Chineses forget a lot of things. I was supposed to post an appriciation of this scenario on last Friday night. But decided to withhold and not post it. I am from Indian Armed forces and my thinking is alighned the way we think in our forces. Chinese are doing things exactly like we thought them to do. They are not trapping us, we are trapping them. They are walking into our trap. Just the way Pak nuke strikes do not force us to launch nukes on China similarly nukes launched on us will allow QUAD to destroy China. Quid pro quo. Even Russians have wargamed it and told China to lay off. But Russinas now think that they have chance to take over large part of Chinese territory and increase their influence in the world and replace China.
The world will have over 220 million less muslims very very soon. A free Tibet and East Turkmenistan soon. Ertrugul may be a hit in Pakistan but India will be worshipped in Muslim world for setting those muslims free when whole muslim ummah failed to do it and infect did nothing.
China is taking time thru diplomacy. We are tracking their subs which are coming into IOR for last 40 days. We are tracking them and ready to sink them. QUAD is very much in play.
Donald Duck is suffering from very serious mental problem. Something like brain Tumour. he is out of the game. Infect USA is out of the game and so is NATO. I had stated a few weeks back that India must mobilise and call everyone between 18-40 for military service. My dau is already wearing a uniform as defender of the nation and my son is 18.5 years old and I have told him to fight for the nation and he is ready to even serve as a sipahi/sepoy.
Nations are build by the blood of the youth and experience of elders. Let the youth rise up to do their duty for the nation in the footsteps of their forefathers.

So Pakistan is going to commit Suicide
By Joining China

Our Nuclear Doctrine will be immediately changed to
First Strike on Pakistan in case of a Two Front War
 
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So far its only Baba ver 2.0 who has claimed this PLAAF in Sindh. Few days back another genius had claimed 40 jets at Skardu which later got debunked.

Unpopular view - there will be no escalation at least not this year. Neither side benefits from it. China might be back next spring just like it did at Doklam
 
So far its only Baba ver 2.0 who has claimed this PLAAF in Sindh. Few days back another genius had claimed 40 jets at Skardu which later got debunked.

Unpopular view - there will be no escalation at least not this year. Neither side benefits from it. China might be back next spring just like it did at Doklam

Not quite.we have other politicians joining the bandwagon. Example.
 
Unpopular view - there will be no escalation at least not this year.
I somewhat share this thought. Whatever hooblah happens will be until November. After that, the winter will make it impossible to sustain war. China is trying to arm twist India into submission after being cornered for the coronavirus. Entire supply lines are being moved away from china. Plenty at stake for them.
 
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We are absolutely sure that US won't open another front for us but it will be a big help if it can consume substantial PLA forces towards a "perceived threat". US bluff will be enough for us.
 
i am on the same boat actually. I have got tired from this constant berating of the enemy psyops but absolutely no weight to any news that shows positive towards IA/India.
and the circle jerk support of a few people goes on in this self reinforcement cycle.
but then what is our use in a forum like this? mods will simply say "leave.. who asked you to stay".. LOL

are you saying the news report is from ajai shukla or hell fire is another ajai shukla :p

Dear, we are as big a nationalist as you are and keep awaiting good news which can make us proud. However what we get in return is hollow claims to cheer to which we simply refuse.

We have the right to celebrate the real success of our armed forces, our diplomatic channels, our people. We crib, we whine because few have taken away this right of ours.

I simply jumped on the link you posted just above, with a hope, to find something credible to prove those structures are really Indian but in return what I read, merely a statement saying they are Indian, citing no tech argument or government statement. Do you really expect us to jump in joy over such articles when we know dragon is around us sniffing the chance?
 
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I think people need to be cautious about all the misinformation happening on twitter and media. Although now on MSM the news about Ladakh and Indo China conflict has suddenly gone down. Seems government don't want MSM to ruin and botch up things like 27th feb. Government doesn't want people to panic and expect people to simply concentrate on their economic activities which is most important for every one.
Now it's all need to know basis. Debate is one thing and claiming is another. If you are not sure about what is going on, simply say you assume or you believe.
 

I think this is great. When they come our side 18 km, naturally they don't have support system there. Just let them come in till it is favorable to engage them. Cut them off from any support and strip them from vehicles and weapon. Put them in our custody. Use Same strategy which Afghans used to do. They will think that they are encroaching in our territory but soon they will realize that they are struck in a point of no return.
 
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I think people need to be cautious about all the misinformation happening on twitter and media. Although now on MSM the news about Ladakh and Indo China conflict has suddenly gone down. Seems government don't want MSM to ruin and botch up things like 27th feb. Government doesn't want people to panic and expect people to simply concentrate on their economic activities which is most important for every one.
Now it's all need to know basis. Debate is one thing and claiming is another. If you are not sure about what is going on, simply say you assume or you believe.
There's definitely some information control going on in the media. After the frenzied zenith of post 15-16th, information seems to have...withered. Now it's all conjecture and wild guesses.

Meanwhile, it seems the media and people have been given a target to come at as a compromise. The Congress and their CCP connection. Make no mistake, that nest of snakes needs a good dose of carbolic with a water gun, but it also seems bait for the piranha-esque public to latch onto and preserve OpSec. But, the public doesn't seem quite as interested as the Chinese border. Yet.

Did we see any major war on a country's own borders under such heavy social media usage? This might become case study in how to conduct secretive operations in such an all pervasive digital climate.