Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

[Arvind]

I am a Bhakt but now even I doubt MSD. They are making a fool of the nation.

Modi was always about show off.

I have lost respect for him. I foresee all this shit about Atmanirbharta will also be swept under the carpet very soon.

Whoa.... you got a heart change !!

He wanted an opportunity to project himself as the Ironman of India like another cheat called Sardar Patel who was responsible for the largest massacre of Brahmins in 1948 when Gandhi was killed. He did nothing just like Rajiv Gandhi to stop that genocide. Over 6000 Brahmins were killed in Maharashtra and Gujrat when Patel was the HM of India. Modi and selfstyled Chanakya of India-Shah are doing just what their Idols did.

I have no opinion on what you have said for Sardar Patel and his actions on Brahmin, bowever since you bought up Sardar Patel, and I have seen a conscious effort on part of this government to draw a parallel between Gandhi and Sardar Patel, let me say this-

Patel reported to Nehru !! So much for his iron-ness.

If Nehru can be all wrong, how come Sardar be great when he chose to remain in Nehru's shadow.

 

[shaxm]

Patel reported to Nehru !! So much for his iron-ness.

Nehru was pm and Patel was hm. So whom else would he report to?

 

[Sathya]

Modi was always about show off. But this time, he did not plan it. The soldiers retaliated on their own without even waiting for clearance from their superiors and he is claiming it as something which was his decision. I have lost respect for him. I foresee all this shit about Atmanirbharta will also be swept under the carpet very soon. He wanted an opportunity to project himself as the Ironman of India like another cheat called Sardar Patel who was responsible for the largest massacre of Brahmins in 1948 when Gandhi was killed. He did nothing just like Rajiv Gandhi to stop that genocide. Over 6000 Brahmins were killed in Maharashtra and Gujrat when Patel was the HM of India. Modi and selfstyled Chanakya of India-Shah are doing just what their Idols did.

Everyone one his master stroke is just trailer.. Full movie is missing..

 

[jetray]

They will be back soon. Jinping ruffled a lot of feathers when he became leader for life. He cannot survive an insult by India when he openly states his goal is to go up against US.

Doklam did not prevent Galwan.
Galwan wont prevent the next standoff.

All it takes is one slip and this time it wont be sticks and stones.

We are talking about a party which rolled tanks over its own ppl. For the CCP its the end goal that matters, they dont care who dies any way its not the leaders at the top. After another 3 weeks/months or a year they will be back with their sleazy trick.

 

[HariPrasad]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280191804168499202

@Falcon @VSTOL .. any comments on the tweet, with images from chinese state media..
The images show that India was the aggressor here.. with Indian positions more than a kilometer to the east of PP14 (which is presumably right on the indian perception of LAC , or is a few hundred meters from the LAC as per Indian accounts).. It also shows India had built a helipad at PP14.. This is totally opposite to the narrative in indian media..

They came as an aggressor and end up thumping their chest for defending Chuna. Hope they might have learned the lesson.

 

[vstol Jockey]

Whoa.... you got a heart change !!

I have no opinion on what you have said for Sardar Patel and his actions on Brahmin, bowever since you bought up Sardar Patel, and I have seen a conscious effort on part of this government to draw a parallel between Gandhi and Sardar Patel, let me say this-

Patel reported to Nehru !! So much for his iron-ness.

If Nehru can be all wrong, how come Sardar be great when he chose to remain in Nehru's shadow.

I have not had a change of heart. I always keep my eyes open and mind fresh. But there are a lot of things which are still not clear about this so called stand off. Govt is saying something and forces are on a very different trajectory.
Sardar and Nehru were the backroom boys of Gandhi. They both licked upto him to be PM of India. Sardar even went to the extent of blocking the appointment of SC Bose to the post of Congress President in 1938. Sardar was a better organisational man but even he got backstabbed by Gandhi when the PM of India was chosen. Ek saampnath toh doosra Naagnath. Sardar always thought that being a Gujju, Gandhi will choose him over Nehru but he forgot that Gandhi was brought to India to fool Indians by the British just the way Lenin was thrust upon Russians to remove Czars.

Nehru was pm and Patel was hm. So whom else would he report to?

He is talking of period before Independence.

 

[Ashwin]

Because it opens a whole new Pandora's box.

If you are ready to do that, then GoI needs to officially drop the One China Policy. And its about course of action, which I think we are not ready to take. For at least another 5 years. I think we still want to portray ourselves as a good boy. And Chinese also remain in confusion, wtf Indians wants from us.
But, I think things going to move really fast after the death of Dalai Lama.

Oh Really?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280756004863410177

 

[Arpit]

why does it open pandora's box, it is just a normal greeting we dint declare any thing or change any policy. It is more or less a psychological effect where you threaten the enemy even if you breathe it will be construed as act of war. These are just cheap bullying tactics. If we are so afraid of wishing any one we want to in our own country then we should stop calling ourselves sovereign & independent. Compare the same thing with pakistan they go around supporting terrorists openly conducting rally's do they require permission from us? These stupidities are our own creation.

Every war is psychological. What was blitzkrieg? Why germans installed sirens in stuka bombers?


What was cold war? And we be stupid to think we can take on China like blink of an eye. China might have problems, but so does Soviet Union had.
And even after absorbing such massive loss of life and land, they still won.

So we need to be rational, not like stronk india, tomorrow we capture Beijing.

We cant even manufacture a good quality arties shells, and we thinking of taking on China. We need to be realistic.


As for Pakistan, they are not rational state. In big picture, they dont matter.

What terrorism achieved till now? We lost 20000 troops and civilian population? So what? What pakistan actually achieved with terrorism over india?

Actually this made us to take our security little bit more seriously.

Oh Really?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280756004863410177

That is not policy, that is foolishness by Modi during his early prime ministership.

Tell me what it achieved? Other than getting some brownie points? Does it stopped China coming into Ladakh Bhutan or AP?

 

[jetray]

Every war is psychological. What was blitzkrieg? Why germans installed sirens in stuka bombers?


What was cold war? And we be stupid to think we can take on China like blink of an eye. China might have problems, but so does Soviet Union had.
And even after absorbing such massive loss of life and land, they still won.

So we need to be rational, not like stronk india, tomorrow we capture Beijing.

We cant even manufacture a good quality arties shells, and we thinking of taking on China. We need to be realistic.


As for Pakistan, they are not rational state. In big picture, they dont matter.

What terrorism achieved till now? We lost 20000 troops and civilian population? So what? What pakistan actually achieved with terrorism over india?

Actually this made us to take our security little bit more seriously.

That is not policy, that is foolishness by Modi during his early prime ministership.

Tell me what it achieved? Other than getting some brownie points? Does it stopped China coming into Ladakh Bhutan or AP?

Where did I say we need to go to war tmmrw with china? I just pointed out the fact that we dont need to cower for every thing under the sun which only encourages the enemy. pakistani terrorism just showed us that we dont need be economically or militarily powerful to take on the enemy.

 

[Defc0n]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280771194992508928

We Indians find unique ways to show our patriotism - hats off to this guy!!

According to a report on CISTHEAccording to a report on CISTHETA, an Indian PUBG player made his Chinese teammate say 'Hindustan Zindabad' before he revived him and brought him back to the game!!

 

[Arpit]

Where did I say we need to go to war tmmrw with china? I just pointed out the fact that we dont need to cower for every thing under the sun which only encourages the enemy. pakistani terrorism just showed us that we dont need be economically or militarily powerful to take on the enemy.

How you know it is not tomorrow? We want to create an eternal enemy? But we don't want to fight?

If we are ready to declare China as our eternal enemy, then we should be ready to fight and do whatever to destroy them.
Things are not like both ways.

First we don't want to accept china as our enemy, and if we do, we don't want to fight them? Why do you want to make a joke out of us? There is nothing like stronk Bharat, and everything results in casualties.
If we have guts to do it, then so be it. We should be ready to accept and throwing millions of even non trained personnel to the frontline.


And where Pakistan takes us down with terrorism, it is indeed loss of life. But it not a big deal in bigger picture.
When Palestinians attack on Israelis, that doesn't mean land of adam is threatened.

 

[HariPrasad]

China can never respect any agreement. They respects only strength. In my opinion, the best thing which happened was 15th June incident. That has inflicted the fear in the mind of chinese. I hope that one conflict happens and we humiliate china more than we humiliated them on 15th. That only will deter china to do mischief for few years. @vstol Jockey sir,
What time according you may India take to dominate China in Laddakh? In my opinion, 2 days should be more than sufficient. Harward study says that India will completely dominate china in laddakh.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280058074120638464

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280771194992508928

We Indians find unique ways to show our patriotism - hats off to this guy!!

According to a report on CISTHEAccording to a report on CISTHETA, an Indian PUBG player made his Chinese teammate say 'Hindustan Zindabad' before he revived him and brought him back to the game!!

It seems that our government is giving china an undue advantage of get away without paying any price in terms of physical damage or loss of chinese occupied territory. We should have made them pay.

 

[HariPrasad]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280771194992508928

We Indians find unique ways to show our patriotism - hats off to this guy!!

According to a report on CISTHEAccording to a report on CISTHETA, an Indian PUBG player made his Chinese teammate say 'Hindustan Zindabad' before he revived him and brought him back to the game!!

It seems that our government is giving china an undue advantage of get away without paying any price in terms of physical damage or loss of chinese occupied territory. We should have made them pay.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280070264886136837

People have lost it. Who believes this BS!?

Can anybody realize one thing? What preperation we did in peace time put us in a position of strong defense such as creation of mountain division, border infrastructure, this area specific weapons. What stopped us to take offensive posture is incomplete preparation such as reducing mountain division to half, delay in purchase of MMRCA, delay in development of Pralay missile, some incomplete projects of infrastructure in this region. Preparedness always pays off.

 

[Cole_phelps]

Oh Really?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280756004863410177

Yes me too was disappointed by no one in corridors of power wished birthday to Dalai Lama. But what i got observing Modi is that he is very vindictive. He's not appeasement kind of guy after been wronged. I would rather wait for few months than believing any side.

 

[Sunnylol]

Yes me too was disappointed by no one in corridors of power wished birthday to Dalai Lama. But what i got observing Modi is that he is very vindictive. He's not appeasement kind of guy after been wronged. I would rather wait for few months than believing any side.

Exactly, at one point he was appeasing Pakistan too but then once they backstabbed him he became aggressive and vengeful!

 

[_Anonymous_]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280571206312181761

 

[vstol Jockey]

What time according you may India take to dominate China in Laddakh? In my opinion, 2 days should be more than sufficient. Harward study says that India will completely dominate china in laddakh.

We dominate them completely. The situation is drastically opposite to 1962. In 1962, we did not have infrastructure in place and our supplylines were dependent on mules now PLA has an infrastructure which we can demolish in no time and they dont even have mules to support them. Plus while our supplylines are short, theirs are very very long.

 

[screambowl]

I have not had a change of heart. I always keep my eyes open and mind fresh. But there are a lot of things which are still not clear about this so called stand off. Govt is saying something and forces are on a very different trajectory.

Military wants to fight because they know they can take back the territory but the government is stopping them for xyz reasons which only government knows. That's what is happening.
Now just wait for Chinese strategic response. US is ready there, but India has backed off.

Today India is at very advantageous position but acting like Prithviraj Chauhan. Tomorrow it may not be in the same position and China will be like Ghauri. If today the casulaities would be 1000 in total skirmish, later for same i am afraid it won't restrict to 1000.

 

[vstol Jockey]

Military wants to fight because they know they can take back the territory but the government is stopping them for xyz reasons which only government knows. That's what is happening.
Now just wait for Chinese strategic response. US is ready there, but India has backed off.

Today India is at very advantageous position but acting like Prithviraj Chauhan. Tomorrow it may not be in the same position and China will be like Ghauri. If today the casulaities would be 1000 in total skirmish, later for same i am afraid it won't restrict to 1000.

I fully agree with you here. I had earlier written that we must seize the initiative this time and attack first as per our battle plans instead of yet again defending. This Panipat mentality must be buried forever.

 

[sanjeev]

@vstol Jockey

Sir, please correct me if i'm wrong.
First of all I am no ardent supporter of modi. And i know modi is not a coward either. do you think the reason behind not going for a war at this point is because there is not enough thrust among public to go war?
public is still worried about corona, sushant singh rajput, bjp vs cong etc
If he goes to war with china now people will blame him for being a blood thirst psychopath. And there is also bihar elections coming soon. if the skirmishes happen along nepal/bihar border and lets say we lost some men that would be a nail in the coffin for bjp in the elections. And UPA in bihar would be a disaster, especially internal security wise. And I am not saying NDA is any better but that's the best alternative we have for now. Do you think this is one of the reasons that is stopping an all out action against chene at this point by the govt?

By nepal/bihar skirmishes i meant not army but local forces with help of chene like this on a bigger scale:

Nepal police open fire near Indian border, one Indian killed & 4 injured

One India farmer died after Nepal police open fire on Indians at Sonbarsa in Sitamarhi in Bihar near Indo-Nepal border, 4 others injured

www.opindia.com

And china will deny involvement just like Pakistani. and media can do rest of the job for them is the point i was trying to make.