Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

Cole_phelps said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1317126164847144960

https://twitter.com/x/status/1317142849440264192

https://twitter.com/x/status/1317142861331140608
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Few things to note in this video. Most forward Chinese position is that video is geo-tagged here.
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IT looks like the Chinese positions is South bank around blacktop is more forward that previously stated in this thread


I marked the points in the video to google earth

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The location where PLA soldiers standing in the video is marked in Red as "PLA Soldiers"

Previous posts and satellite images from @detresfa (twitter) suggests that Indian army position is in the south of intrsection marked as "IA forward" in blue., blocking PLA from coming down to Gurung hill from "PLA forward".

Looks like the PLA is moving freely through other ridgeline from "PLA forward" and further down close to point 5167.
 
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Volcano said:
No, India is not going to vacate Gurung hill. If we vacte it, we will have to vacate entire ridge-line going up untill blacktop.

PLA positions shown in the map is 700 feets below, marked as PLA SP1. They cannot take gurung hill without a fight.

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So it seems India controls only one ridgeline along gurung hill. Rest all is secured by China. India does not have access to Lake even.
 
shaxm said:
So it seems India controls only one ridgeline along gurung hill. Rest all is secured by China. India does not have access to Lake even.
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Not at all. Sat images have already confirmed Indian presence on the main ridgelines overlooking the lake.

We haven't crossed our perception of the LAC, so the PLA is operating on their side. It's just an imaginary line. So they are merely 200m away.

@Falcon
 
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randomradio said:
Not at all. Sat images have already confirmed Indian presence on the main ridgelines overlooking the lake.

We haven't crossed our perception of the LAC, so the PLA is operating on their side. It's just an imaginary line. So they are merely 200m away.

@Falcon
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but at least the myth that India controls Blactop is busted here. Its completely with Chinks.
 
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shaxm said:
So it seems India controls only one ridgeline along gurung hill. Rest all is secured by China. India does not have access to Lake even.
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randomradio said:
Not at all. Sat images have already confirmed Indian presence on the main ridgelines overlooking the lake.

We haven't crossed our perception of the LAC, so the PLA is operating on their side. It's just an imaginary line. So they are merely 200m away.

@Falcon
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shaxm said:
but at least the myth that India controls Blactop is busted here. Its completely with Chinks.
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IA control the green ridgeline and PLA control the red ridgeline.

Failure to take the bump cost us continues ridgeline control. Our post is around 200 Meters south of Bump. Now PLA seem to be free to move from bump to PT 5167 as seen in the video posted before.

Blacktop is with Chinese, no question. So after all, Nitin Gokhale seems right this time. IF thats the case, helmet is also in Chinese hands. I haven't seen the recent satellite pictures of helmet. More likely, its also in Chinese control.

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Volcano said:
IA control the green ridgeline and PLA control the red ridgeline.

Failure to take the bump cost us continues ridgeline control. Our post is around 200 Meters south of Bump. Now PLA seem to be free to move from bump to PT 5167 as seen in the video posted before.

Blacktop is with Chinese, no question. So after all, Nitin Gokhale seems right this time. IF thats the case, helmet is also in Chinese hands. I haven't seen the recent satellite pictures of helmet. More likely, its also in Chinese control.

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Overall Chinese formation is look much stronger here. From Indian side the only advantage probably is there is a good supplyline from Chusul.
 
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shaxm said:
Overall Chinese formation is look much stronger here. From Indian side the only advantage probably is there is a good supplyline from Chusul.
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Depends on what the objective is. If the objective of Moldo post, then this positions are fine. Without Moldo, none of the Chinese positions in South Bank can survive.

Approach to all other positions goes through moldo
 
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Volcano said:
Depends on what the objective is. If the objective of Moldo post, then this positions are fine. Without Moldo, none of the Chinese positions in South Bank can survive.

Approach to all other positions goes through moldo
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Indias objective is always reactionary. Chinks want to get Chusul and ingress further. Indias objective is to stop that. Thats also visible from the formation.
 
Volcano said:
IA control the green ridgeline and PLA control the red ridgeline.

Failure to take the bump cost us continues ridgeline control. Our post is around 200 Meters south of Bump. Now PLA seem to be free to move from bump to PT 5167 as seen in the video posted before.

Blacktop is with Chinese, no question. So after all, Nitin Gokhale seems right this time. IF thats the case, helmet is also in Chinese hands. I haven't seen the recent satellite pictures of helmet. More likely, its also in Chinese control.

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Yeah, pretty much the case here.
 
Volcano said:
Few things to note in this video. Most forward Chinese position is that video is geo-tagged here.
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IT looks like the Chinese positions is South bank around blacktop is more forward that previously stated in this thread


I marked the points in the video to google earth

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The location where PLA soldiers standing in the video is marked in Red as "PLA Soldiers"

Previous posts and satellite images from @detresfa (twitter) suggests that Indian army position is in the south of intrsection marked as "IA forward" in blue., blocking PLA from coming down to Gurung hill from "PLA forward".

Looks like the PLA is moving freely through other ridgeline from "PLA forward" and further down close to point 5167.
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There is no restrictions of movement behind the holding lines on both sides. These movements are observed by both sides....... it's a stalemate..... Both dont want an armed conflict and both dont want to back off either
 
nair said:
There is no restrictions of movement behind the holding lines on both sides. These movements are observed by both sides....... it's a stalemate..... Both dont want an armed conflict and both dont want to back off either
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It's impossible for move behind the holding lines of troops in a mountain ridge.

They have access to this region because they control that ridge.
 
nair said:
There is no restrictions of movement behind the holding lines on both sides. These movements are observed by both sides....... it's a stalemate..... Both dont want an armed conflict and both dont want to back off either
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I actually hope this stalemate continues through the winter, so that the Chinese actually experience that which they have underestimated. It will then play a significant part in how they proceed in the future.
 
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