Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

_Anonymous_ said:
Give it time. Summer is here. Let's not be hasty. In a few months the situation would be clear.
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The fireworks are complete. This season will be consolidation for both sides. Both sides under their bluster were no where as prepared as they would have liked.

Doklam, Ladakh have shown two trends.

India is increasingly under pressure to push back against China. The hyper media and internet enabled population wont let go.

The second, China is going to not let India stay focused on its growth. It will use border ambiguity to keep India unsettled. This friction will not go away till there is one of two major events - a comprehensive agreement on Border and economy (read India's support to CPEC) or open hostility.
 
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Jaymax said:
The fireworks are complete. This season will be consolidation for both sides. Both sides under their bluster were no where as prepared as they would have liked.

Doklam, Ladakh have shown two trends.

India is increasingly under pressure to push back against China. The hyper media and internet enabled population wont let go.

The second, China is going to not let India stay focused on its growth. It will use border ambiguity to keep India unsettled. This friction will not go away till there is one of two major events - a comprehensive agreement on Border and economy (read India's support to CPEC) or open hostility.
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So we lost depsang??
 
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Maler said:
Any present day Kautilyas of this forum can spin this one???

Hey @noksss @Sulla84 @Yashpatel604 now you can start your mental gymnastics!!! Show your skills and spin it like Shane Warne...ooooops....foreigner......I mean to say vocal for local.....desi....Axar Patel.....a Gujju.....bread of 'stamped' Hindustani (not khalistani) Deshbhakats!!!

@_Anonymous_ you are expert in reading person's motivations, I accept sakhas taught you well!!! Can you plz explain the motivation of anti national @Hellfire for this anti Modi 'propaganda' post!
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Well, it seems dabba walla (Babu as Hellfire likes to call them) have persisted with their "logic" ie "We have achieved disengagement as the situation was before start of hostility. This is why we withdrew from commanding positions. The areas of depsang, hot spring etc are long standing issues and hence cannot be agreed upon in this round of disenagements.". Folks, we have been beaten not by superior fire power economy etc but by sheer incompetence of MoD Babus.
Jaymax said:
Not quite. Its still contested. But it appears we have a tendency to let our diplomats *censored* up our gains.

We have to stop demanding quick results in China issues. It always works against us.


Vacating Kailash is planned subject to Chinks playing along.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1360604524298133508
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LOL!
"Temp freeze on patrolling between Finger 4 & 8 essential to avoid clashes"

Translation, China gets to keep what it had claimed and acquired in 1959 and 62 respectively. India promotes peace by not threatening Chinese incursions in area controlled by China but claimed by India. The area on which they have constructed permanent structures.

As a consolation, China has thrown in LoC peace deal as well... Till the next round of terrorist attacks.

Hail the breakthrough!
 
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Abuse of ex or current armed forces personnel is not tolerated. Final warning.
Jaymax said:
Not quite. Its still contested. But it appears we have a tendency to let our diplomats *censored* up our gains.

We have to stop demanding quick results in China issues. It always works against us.


Vacating Kailash is planned subject to Chinks playing along.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1360604524298133508
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"Our troops located very close (in Chushul) when Kailash Range is vacated"!!!
 
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Maler said:
Any present day Kautilyas of this forum can spin this one???

Hey @noksss @Sulla84 @Yashpatel604 now you can start your mental gymnastics!!! Show your skills and spin it like Shane Warne...ooooops....foreigner......I mean to say vocal for local.....desi....Axar Patel.....a Gujju.....bread of 'stamped' Hindustani (not khalistani) Deshbhakats!!!

@_Anonymous_ you are expert in reading person's motivations, I accept sakhas taught you well!!! Can you plz explain the motivation of anti national @Hellfire for this anti Modi 'propaganda' post!

@randomradio
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When the army is planning to Mark the Currently Unheld areas with expeditions ,Studies ........it only means the Army/Government is not naive to believe that PLA wont come back and planning their moves accordingly . So , will wait and see how things goes before any conclusion


timesofindia.indiatimes.com

India China border news: To counter China, Army to mark ‘unheld areas’ with expeditions, studies | India News - Times of India

India News: The Army is firmly pushing for mountaineering expeditions as well as research studies to publicise and consolidate India’s legitimate territorial clai
timesofindia.indiatimes.com timesofindia.indiatimes.com
 
Jaymax said:
It would be nicer if the gun Jaishankar was pointing was loaded. Even the Chinks know we will just posture but won't shoot.
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I don't think so. The very fact that a Foreign Minister of India has made such a statement is a huge thing. Compare that to this reaction.Look at the body language.

 
Maler said:
So PDFisation of this forum is complete!!! Similarly efforts of Pakistanization of country in full swing. After some sacred cows as political leaders, religio-political organizations with extreme agendas, now here we presents retd. and working public servants or govt employees also as sacred cows!!! Bravo!!!
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Try name calling a serving or former officer of the Indian armed forces one more time. Its a direct ban. This is a defence forum.

Your politics is not our problem. You are welcome to share your views in the relevant threads.
 
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Turning the thread back to purpose

https://twitter.com/x/status/1371697516396257283

Ching - Chong and now Ching again.
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Not too deep into precise locations of who is where but on a macro level there seems to me a pattern in the Chinese response. It's similar to what they did in Doklam. Aside from the contentious area, they'd proceed with building activities in areas surrounding said contentious area, maintain a 24x7 presence & patrol it constantly.
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
Not too deep into precise locations of who is where but on a macro level there seems to me a pattern in the Chinese response. It's similar to what they did in Doklam. Aside from the contentious area, they'd proceed with building activities in areas surrounding said contentious area, maintain a 24x7 presence & patrol it constantly.
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Its a lawyer's response. Press the agreement to its precise limits while building up your claim.
 
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Can anyone clear which is correct fingers designation? Can't believe after almost a year, we are rolling with 2 maps.

General area

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Pangong Tso

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Raj Map

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Map 1

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Map 2

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If Map 1 is correct then PLA had permanent base between F6-F7 even before conflict.
 
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