Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

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Maler said:
As many actual strategists/strategic thinkers were saying from the very beginning, Pangong Tso is a diversion and Depseng Plains were the real target. China achieved what they came for, everything else on our side now is perception management through media and govt sponsored pithos aka think tanks, serving and ex BJP generals......oops....I mean to say Army Generals!!!
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So, tell me what has changed in Depsang post April 2020 ?
1. Were the patrolling points which India has been denied access under Indian "control" before April 2020.?
2. Has a large force of PLA camped across the Indian perception of LAC in Depsang post April 2020? Or are they in strength at the LAC on their side in Depsang..?
3. Was India able to patrol to the denied patrolling points before April 2020 ?
 
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Sulla84 said:
So, tell me what has changed in Depsang post April 2020 ?
1. Were the patrolling points which India has been denied access under Indian "control" before April 2020.?
2. Has a large force of PLA camped across the Indian perception of LAC in Depsang post April 2020? Or are they in strength at the LAC on their side in Depsang..?
3. Was India able to patrol to the denied patrolling points before April 2020 ?
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Kindly explain the word 'control'!

Even in Pangong Tso, we were not in 'control' from finger 04 to 08 in the past, then why we escalated the issue and occupied the Kailash range in response (which we are vacating now)?

In western sector, our posts in some areas are 8-10 kilometers before international border and just patrolling the till border and not in 'control' by your definition, So Pakistan can stop us patrolling that large area till border as we are not in control?

At Nepal border, we have limited no. of posts and patrolling is also limited, so Nepal can also stop us patrolling in our area as we are not in 'control'?
 
Maler said:
Even in Pangong Tso, we were not in 'control' from finger 04 to 08 in the past, then why we escalated the issue and occupied the Kailash range in response (which we are vacating now)?
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Because the Chinese settled across the LAC between F4 and F8, with hundreds of soldiers and attended structures in Summer 2020.. Have the PLA settled across the Indian perception of LAC, and built structures at Depsang after April 2020 ?
 
Maler said:
IA is vacating Kailash Range......because political masters wants emperor Xi to visit India during BRICS summit......now say.........oooooops
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India for the first time seeing a political masters standing up to emperor XI interms of troop deployment , Infra development and counter occupation to stop salami slicing .......oooooops .................not sure you want sonia gandhi era salman khurshid as a foreign minister who is know for his brutal retaliation to emperor XI by calling the whole issue as a pimples on your face .
 
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Sulla84 said:
Because the Chinese settled across the LAC between F4 and F8, with hundreds of soldiers and attended structures in Summer 2020.. Have the PLA settled across the Indian perception of LAC, and built structures at Depsang after April 2020 ?
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If China is not in control till Y-Juction, then how can they stop Indian army patrolling Indian land? Or you are implying that Y-Juction and beyond is not Indian land?

So, leave this mental gymnastic and accept the truth that this govt is as impotent as the previous one and did not have water in their balls to stand against China for a favorable outcome or national interest. They are only good at political posturing and media marketing!
 
noksss said:
India for the first time seeing a political masters standing up to emperor XI interms of troop deployment , Infra development and counter occupation to stop salami slicing .......oooooops .................not sure you want sonia gandhi era salman khurshid as a foreign minister who is know for his brutal retaliation to emperor XI by calling the whole issue as a pimples on your face .
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If congress was bad for India, then this govt is worse. What is standing up to emperor Xi means? What is the outcome of this 'standing up'? Nada, Zilch.....Zero! A red carpet for empire and just political posturing. China achieved what they came for and......oooooops..... 56 inch contracted to .56 inch like air balloon! Even this 56 inch giving up Indian army's hard fought gains of Kailash Range as a gift 🎁 to Empror Xi to ensure his India visit. This govt is doing what they are good at 'trading'. They even traded sacrifices of 20 Indian bravehearts and trying to use the Supreme sacrifice of Indian soldiers for political benefits!!! What a Shame!!!!!
 
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If China is not in control till Y-Juction, then how can they stop Indian army patrolling Indian land? Or you are implying that Y-Juction and beyond is not Indian land?

So, leave this mental gymnastic and accept the truth that this govt is as impotent as the previous one and did not have water in their balls to stand against China for a favorable outcome or national interest. They are only good at political posturing and media marketing!
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So Chinese made infrastructure on indian land like they did between F4-8 in depsang sector?

If yes then please show satellite images of heavy Chinese buildup in Depsang sector.

even after building temp. structures between F4-8, they had to vacate and dismantle temp. structures.

if congress was so good then why they let PLA make road inside our Territory in depsang sector between Year 2010-2012?
 

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Maler said:
If China is not in control till Y-Juction, then how can they stop Indian army patrolling Indian land? Or you are implying that Y-Juction and beyond is not Indian land?

So, leave this mental gymnastic and accept the truth that this govt is as impotent as the previous one and did not have water in their balls to stand against China for a favorable outcome or national interest. They are only good at political posturing and media marketing!
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The Chinese come up Y junction to stop Indian patrols from crossing Y junction.. and then retreat back across to their side.. its not the same as lodging across the LAC, like in F4-F8 . and it been happening prior to 2020, you little prick.
 
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Sulla84 said:
The Chinese come up Y junction to stop Indian patrols from crossing Y junction.. and then retreat back across to their side.. its not the same as lodging across the LAC, like in F4-F8 . and it been happening prior to 2020, you little prick.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What happened to the talks on Chinese withdrawal from the Deosang Plains? We were informed that they would take place with 48 hours of the move back by both sides on both banks of the Pangong Tso.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ladakh?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Ladakh</a></p>&mdash; Mandeep Singh Bajwa (@MandeepBajwa) <a href="
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">March 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Jaymax said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1369366436171444227

@Maler might have been right about vacating key locations
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Any present day Kautilyas of this forum can spin this one???

Hey @noksss @Sulla84 @Yashpatel604 now you can start your mental gymnastics!!! Show your skills and spin it like Shane Warne...ooooops....foreigner......I mean to say vocal for local.....desi....Axar Patel.....

@_Anonymous_ you are expert in reading person's motivations. Can you plz explain the motivation of anti national @Hellfire for this anti Modi 'propaganda' post!

@randomradio
 
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Maler said:
Any present day Kautilyas of this forum can spin this one???

Hey @noksss @Sulla84 @Yashpatel604 now you can start your mental gymnastics!!! Show your skills and spin it like Shane Warne...ooooops....foreigner......I mean to say vocal for local.....desi....Axar Patel.....a Gujju.....bread of 'stamped' Hindustani (not khalistani) Deshbhakats!!!

@_Anonymous_ you are expert in reading person's motivations, I accept sakhas taught you well!!! Can you plz explain the motivation of anti national @Hellfire for this anti Modi 'propaganda' post!

@randomradio
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You have a right to keep your opinion. But instead of aggressive tones lets keep a civil discourse here.

We have PDF and the other forum for emotional religious/regional/ideology based debates.
 
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