Between finger 4 & 5 probably.
LAC at finger 4, international border at finger 8 as per my understanding.
Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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No we didn't. We could from finger 4 to 7 at maximum as finger 8 is fully under Chinese control, including the fort on western edge of finger 8.
Dei saamy....enna da idu?
Listen carefully the words used by ITBP jawans.
They are not heard anywhere across the Himalayas. Also why wd our guys hit our own guy? U are nuts if u assume that the injured one being protected by our officer is an Indian jawan to. Also, don't u see the uniform pattern?
Now call him American soldier and completely satiate ur drenched ego. Poda.
@Falcon on 25 May-
Were you talking about this or some other incident? There seems to be one more hidden as there is ITBP in this. I remember you tweeted something like bring it on, what more is hidden from public?
This seems to be a carefully planted leak.
Its reciprocated fully. 8 Mahar, the PVC paltan actually had the Chinese maintaining distance from them. The Chinese would withdraw when 8 Mahar troops would move near them
Can't tell you the exact reason why though
Were you talking about this or some other incident? There seems to be one more hidden as there is ITBP in this. I remember you tweeted something like bring it on, what more is hidden from public?
This seems to be a carefully planted leak.
They pissed that their sugar daddy is being bullied. Imagine people they lick hard are getting this treatment.
You should understand his mindest , he is ex Pak Armed forces. He thinks like Pakistan army Indian army does things for PRDei saamy....enna da idu?
Listen carefully the words used by ITBP jawans.
They are not heard anywhere across the Himalayas. Also why wd our guys hit our own guy? U are nuts if u assume that the injured one being protected by our officer is an Indian jawan to. Also, don't u see the uniform pattern?
Now call him American soldier and completely satiate ur drenched ego. Poda.
I have a plan for NE to escape from chicken neck issue.it may sound stupid and non feasible. In a future war there is a possibility that Chinese may successfully capture or destroy the chicken neck to isolate our NE. With out any supply from India NE can longer sustain.
In order to avoid that situation,make NE an independent military fortress, capable of minimum three months intense war with China.
Minimum 6-7 squadrons of fighter jet (3 Tejas type for cap,a mix of 3-4 squadrons Rafale type medium & MKI type heavy). Minimum three AWACS,3-4 air refuellers in 27/7 stand-by. With adequate heavy and medium transport aircraft & transport choppers. An exclusive integrated air defence command with exclusive s400.
Around 60+ attack choppers ( mix of Apache & LCH). And two or three brahmos regiment,two or three Nirbhay type cruise missile regiment. Rocket artillery ( both sketch like heavy & pinaka type medium) in huge numbers, Chinese have unmatched superiority in rocket artillery. A good mix of towed & self propelled Howitzers., howitzers play crucial role in warfare,we need it in thousands. A well equipped antitank infantry regiments ( with man portable & nag type vehicle loaded)
With these we can very well defend our NE & Arunachal innthe case if Chinese managed to capture chicken neck. NE can fight by its own.
In order to avoid that situation,make NE an independent military fortress, capable of minimum three months intense war with China.
Minimum 6-7 squadrons of fighter jet (3 Tejas type for cap,a mix of 3-4 squadrons Rafale type medium & MKI type heavy). Minimum three AWACS,3-4 air refuellers in 27/7 stand-by. With adequate heavy and medium transport aircraft & transport choppers. An exclusive integrated air defence command with exclusive s400.
Around 60+ attack choppers ( mix of Apache & LCH). And two or three brahmos regiment,two or three Nirbhay type cruise missile regiment. Rocket artillery ( both sketch like heavy & pinaka type medium) in huge numbers, Chinese have unmatched superiority in rocket artillery. A good mix of towed & self propelled Howitzers., howitzers play crucial role in warfare,we need it in thousands. A well equipped antitank infantry regiments ( with man portable & nag type vehicle loaded)
With these we can very well defend our NE & Arunachal innthe case if Chinese managed to capture chicken neck. NE can fight by its own.
Indian army statement through ANI "videos being circulted on social media are not AUTHENTICATED"
BHARwANA the tomato farmer aka new mod concluded" it's fake and thread is closed for further reply".
Seems like it was too much for them to take it ,now all their vidhwa vilaap has stopped and so has our fun.
BHARwANA the tomato farmer aka new mod concluded" it's fake and thread is closed for further reply".
Seems like it was too much for them to take it ,now all their vidhwa vilaap has stopped and so has our fun.
The issue isn't as simple as you're making it out to be. Leaving aside any historical claims before the British in India or the Sino Tibetan historical claims there were 3 lines proposed by the British of which the Johnson line was the oldest & most extensive & expansive from India's PoV. That territory even then in Aksai Chin was effectively no man's land .
Subsequent to the Johnson line proposed in the mid 1890's based on surveys conducted by the British in the mid 1860's , there was the McDonald line proposed by the British to the Qing Empire officials immediately after they proposed the Johnson line as the boundaries between India & Tibet, this time the line being brought further west to the Johnson line thus favouring the Sino Tibetan position more. The Chinese didn't respond to either claims of the British & with the British not pressing the issue with the Chinese, the maps were drawn by the British reverting to the Johnson line. The matter lay dormant till 1947 with the British not exercising any sovereignty in Aksai Chin till 1947 except for its claims on the map.
A newly independent county can hardly ever be expected to immediately concede to the demands if it's neighbors on the matter of unsettled borders as that sets a bad precedent with other neighbors immediately jumping into the fray to forward their claims - justified or not, to test the waters thus opening up the proverbial can of worms.
That's the reason why Pakistan didn't respond to Afghanistan's claims of rejection of the Durand Line since Pakistan achieved independence . That's one of the reasons Nehru didn't respond when CCP thru the PLA invaded Tibet in 1950 as prior to the invasion the Tibetans were rather vociferously demanding India hand over AP, Ladakh, Bhutan & Sikkim once India became independent based on "historical" claims much like how Nepal is jumping up & down with their claims. Of course, there were other reasons as well.
If Aksai Chin didn't belong to Ladakh & consequently India, there's zero evidence it belonged to Tibet & consequently to China too. Nehru's only blunder was to map his claim & not enforce it on the ground thru the IA. The Chinese seized the initiative . The rest is bitter history from our perspective.
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Then you know the aircraft situation aside, NE is absolutely built like a fortress now. If you head towards Chinese borders, esp Sikkim you'll see just much the buildup is, even in peace times.
Or may be, work out a treaty with B'desh to allow a corridor to NE, guarded by indian security personnels. In return, let BD get electricity from Nepal and a path to China via Nathu La Pass. Give and take.
I know some extant of military situation,but question is wether we can defend NE without using chicken neck? What I want NE does require a military which can sustain war with out any help from Indian mainland.
I have a question when we liberated Bangladesh
1)why didn't we kept some part to widen chicken's neck ,was it not error on the part of policy planners??
It wasn't as if the threat of China was gone.we should have at least our bases there so that chicken neck should be protected and our uninterrupted movement of forces continued whenever it was required.
Today can we say that in the event of Sino India conflict Bangladesh will provide the passage ??
1)why didn't we kept some part to widen chicken's neck ,was it not error on the part of policy planners??
It wasn't as if the threat of China was gone.we should have at least our bases there so that chicken neck should be protected and our uninterrupted movement of forces continued whenever it was required.
Today can we say that in the event of Sino India conflict Bangladesh will provide the passage ??
We should be aware &admit the Chinese influence onnworld. They literally turned Nepal government against India,they can easily brainwash Bangladesh too. My suggestion is independent of any neighbours,but it is a damn costly project.
Yeas,we have won that war but made many strategic blunders too. The one you mentioned is not the worst blunder we made on that day,the biggest one is the existence of pok till date.
We were an itty bitty country back then and a monster called USA was breathing down our neck. Russia supported us to humiliate US but if we kept some territory, US would have railed Russia. We were playing on borrowed power from Russia against USA and it came with strings attached.
Why do you think we gave such a nice treaty to Pakistan in 72? Russia supported us only on lines which helped them in cold war.
IMO, chickens neck is very well defended. And honestly, Sikkimese roads from North Sikkim didn't give me impression that anything larger than an SUV can come down those mountains. I won't lie, it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel when a Chinese tanks and armaments trying to wind down those roads.