They may be aiming for the one with the AETP. It will also give the Israelis the 15-year operational advantage they desire.
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They may be aiming for the one with the AETP. It will also give the Israelis the 15-year operational advantage they desire.
UAE suspend purchase of 50 f-35 + drone for 23 billion dollars compare to 80 rafales for 14 billion dollars
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It seems UAE haven't like to be taken as stupid people.
UAE suspends discussions for purchase of U.S. F-35 fighter jets - UPI.com
The United Arab Emirates on Tuesday, announced it was suspending discussions with the United States over the purchase of the F-35 Lightning II fighter jet.
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UAE suspends talks on F-35 deal with US
The US is hopeful that it can work out any “outstanding issues” with the UAE over a $23 billion arms deal, a State Department official said Tuesday, after an Emirati official said his country was suspending talks on the sale of F-35 fighter jets.
UAE suspends talks on F-35 deal with US
The US is hopeful that it can work out any “outstanding issues” with the UAE over a $23 billion arms deal, a State Department official said Tuesday, after an Emirati official said his country was suspending talks on the sale of F-35 fighter jets.
“As we recently confirmed at the Dubai Air Show, the Biden-Harris Administration remains committed to the proposed sales of F-35 aircraft, the MQ-9B, and munitions even as we continue consultations to ensure that we have a clear, mutual understanding of Emirati obligations and actions before, during, and after delivery,” the official told Al Arabiya English.
Initially struck under the Trump administration, the UAE had requested to buy the US fighter jet and other weapons, including armed drones, as part of the Abraham Accords deal, which saw the Emirates normalize ties with Israel.
But the Biden administration’s decision to review all foreign arms sales, including this deal, led to increased skepticism.
While visiting the Dubai Air Show last month, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Regional Security Mira Resnick said the US intended to move forward with the proposed defense sales.
On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal first reported that an Emirati official informed Washington of the suspension of talks over the deal. “Technical requirements, sovereign operational restrictions, and the cost/benefit analysis led to the reassessment,” the official was quoted as saying in a statement.
Asked to comment on the UAE’s new stance, the State Department official told Al Arabiya English: “We are hopeful that we can work through any outstanding issues, and we look forward to the US-UAE Joint Military Dialogue later this week.”
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland was in the UAE last week to discuss “and advance key regional security and economic issues,” the State Department said before her trip.
Commenting on the UAE’s decision, Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby told reporters that Washington would try to work out the differences.
Kirby said that senior UAE officials had a visit scheduled to the Pentagon later this week.
“We will always insist, as a matter of statutory requirements and policy, on a variety of end use requirements,” Kirby said, directing questions to the State Department.
The UAE’s use of China’s Huawei 5G technologies and its warm relationship with China has irked the US, American officials have said publicly and privately.
And Chinese construction at UAE naval ports also raised questions from Washington about Beijing’s military ambitions at the site.
A diplomatic advisor to the UAE President, Anwar Gargash, said last week that the UAE ordered the halting of construction at a port near Abu Dhabi.
He said the UAE did not think the construction was being carried out for military purposes by China.
UAE F-35 deal on life support after Emiratis cancel acceptance of weapons package - Breaking Defense
The UAE's plans to buy the F-35 now seem rocky, with the Emiratis threatening to pull out of the agreement.
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On Monday, a UAE air force official sent a letter to the Pentagon withdrawing its letters of offer and acceptance for 50 Lockheed Martin F-35A fighters, 18 General Atomics MQ-9Bs, and $10 billion worth of air-to-air and air-to-ground munitions made largely by Raytheon.
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Specifically, the US opposes the UAE’s contract with Chinese 5G provider Huawei, fearing that the Chinese network could technologically compromise the F-35. It also has concerns about what it believes may be a Chinese military facility built at a UAE port, and questions whether Abu Dhabi could protect US military technologies while working so closely with China.
The UAE’s withdrawal from the agreement comes a day after Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett met with UAE Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed on Monday, and mere weeks after the country inked a $19 billion deal with France for 80 Dassault Rafale fighters.
FMS contracts are only an estimate of the price and the customer agrees to pay the actual price without discussing price increases.
Yep, it's generally a mix of DCS and FMS.
IAF will finally get 22 Boeing AH-64E Apache attack helicopters and 15 Boeing CH-47F Chinook heavy-lift helicopters
IAF has received approval from the CCS for the purchase of 22 Boeing AH-64E Apache attack helicopters and 15 Boeing CH-47F Chinook heavy-lift helicopters.
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The F-35 itself is gonna be DCS.
Blinken says U.S. ready to move forward with sale of F-35s, drones to UAE
The United States is prepared to move forward with the sale of F-35 fighter jets and drones to the United Arab Emirates (UAE), U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Wednesday, after reports the UAE intended to suspend discussion of the deal.
The prospect of seeing 23 billion USD flying away seems to have put the fear of God in the Americans. UAE sure has learnt the art of squeezing American balls.Blinken says U.S. ready to move forward with sale of F-35s, drones to UAE
The United States is prepared to move forward with the sale of F-35 fighter jets and drones to the United Arab Emirates (UAE), U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Wednesday, after reports the UAE intended to suspend discussion of the deal.www.reuters.com
Blinken says U.S. ready to move forward with sale of F-35s, drones to UAE
The United States is prepared to move forward with the sale of F-35 fighter jets and drones to the United Arab Emirates (UAE), U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Wednesday, after reports the UAE intended to suspend discussion of the deal.
Damage control being done, I suppose.
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"We've wanted to make sure, for example, that our commitment to Israel's qualitative military edge is assured, so we wanted to make sure that we could do a thorough review of any technologies that are sold or transferred to other partners in the region, including the UAE," Blinken said.
Yeah, UAE is not the problem, Iran is. They recently changed their oil price formula, which means Iran's gonna get oil money again. The US needs to stop making excuses when arming countries that are actually important for dealing with Iran. And the Israelis should be more concerned about Turkey and Egypt getting the F-35.
No. It's simply time to change M2000 fleet and in a couple of years time to change F16-60 fleet. Nothing more.
I add that UAE have seen how the US may intervene in their military operations when the F16 fleet was grounded by uncle Sam during the 2011 Lybia operations.... so USA is a political ally you need to have in your hand when France give you free use weapons.
So UAE will rely on french Rafale, with or without flying turkey 35.
For Turkey it's now a cold case.
For Egypt, the vast russian fleet (with the russian specialists for maintenance) will prevent a F35 purchase.
No direct neighbors of Israel will be F35 equipped.
Yep, the Turks were stopped cold Turkey.
The new Russian fleet is not that difficult to maintain. The new Mig-29 has reduced spares and maintenance costs by 80% compared to the original. The Su-35 has parts that last twice as long as the original Flanker. Both are more or less comparable to Western costs today. Especially with that insane exchange rate advantage with Russia. But the Egyptians are getting GCC funding. As long as the F-35 becomes available to the ME, they will all jump at the chance.
If I were an American in charge of the Finnish contract, I would have put everything under FMS. F-35s at $73 million, when you see how much they would be sold to the UAE, are very dangerous under DCS. Especially if you have to change the engine to make the block 4 work !Yep, it's generally a mix of DCS and FMS.
The Apache proposal for India includes both a Direct Commercial Sale (DCS) component and a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) component. The FMS contract for the Apache includes munitions, training, aircraft certification, and components including engines, Electro-Optic (EO sensors) and the Fire Control Radar (option). The DCS portion of the contract primarily consists of the aircraft (less engines/sensors), logistic support, spares and services.IAF will finally get 22 Boeing AH-64E Apache attack helicopters and 15 Boeing CH-47F Chinook heavy-lift helicopters
IAF has received approval from the CCS for the purchase of 22 Boeing AH-64E Apache attack helicopters and 15 Boeing CH-47F Chinook heavy-lift helicopters.
The F-35 itself is gonna be DCS.
Est-ce finalement ‘Rafale’ vs JSF ?
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If I were an American in charge of the Finnish contract, I would have put everything under FMS. F-35s at $73 million, when you see how much they would be sold to the UAE, are very dangerous under DCS. Especially if you have to change the engine to make the block 4 work !
Escaping from the FMS is the point of tenders. UAE's deal will come under FMS, and they will pay big bucks to make it happen, but all the global tenders with the F-35 participating are meant to force the Americans to negotiate.
Perhaps we have given the USA a performance like the one they gave us in the AUKUS case.
UAE will buy the F-35 eventually anyway.
Honestly, I think you should be more worried about the Rafale vs SH competition in India. The Rafale failed to meet the Finnish price threshold, while the SH did. And that could repeat in India. I don't think the IN capability requirements will be as stringent as Finland's either. The Mig-29K is a very sh!tty benchmark after all, no different from the Hornet.
