Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning and F-22 'Raptor' : News & Discussion
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That sounds like a term they use when I don't pay my cable bill.You might even believe active cancelation
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Listen, and learn. An active colonel of ADAE (former head of Normandie-Niemen Sqd) clearly mentions it as sending a signal with a shift of half wavelength from incoming signal. He also states that both Rafale and F-35 are using it btw. Maybe that will stop you from spamming idiocies.
LOL...It's obviously not classified. Where is the official announcement, that it has that mode? Or he's telling a story and repeating Sweetman?
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You are talking about a seasoned Rafale pilot, former sqd leader clearly explaining how it does work on his plane. Shall I know YOUR sources apart from forums? Denial do not change facts.
LOL.
It's always difficult for an average american people to imagine something non US can be better. Don't spend you time with a troll.
Oh BTW, talking about scaf program, 2 to 3 years ago, former NATO SACT (suprême allied commander for transformation) did mention the balance between active and passive stealth to be determined. I guess he was a Sweetman's fan also? Mentioning that caused my ban from f16.net sect BTW.
You won't listen to anything as you are purposedly deaf. I gave you actual clues, but you are a naysayer. Hopeless.Like I'm supposed to listen to THAT.
Why would you need an official announcement? For the sake of forumers? I don't think Dassault or IAF care about our opinion, do you?
LOL you know what? DDM NG can see the sun from zillions of kilometers!
In fact Pic is posing a real issue. USN fighters (specially F35) are short legged, therefore the carriers must come too close to targets, hence the need for a tanker drone... Your answer is at best kiddush. China also have ballistic missiles.
In 1988, the engineers began work on the final version of the Rafale, but the Minister of Defense, André Giraud, added a "confidential defense" stealth clause to the program sheet.You might even believe active cancelation
The documents of the time therefore speak of the ACE/Rafale D (for Discreet), and Dassault and Thomson CSF engineers had to make the Rafale invisible to radar. As in the case of American stealth aircraft, they played with shapes (the Rafale A was completely redesigned, except for the wheels) and materials to improve the aircraft's passive stealth, which was not total (the aircraft was discreet and not stealthy), and then added a SPECTRA electronic protection system to increase the aircraft's active stealth.
This choice of a semi-furtive airframe made stealthy by the addition of an electronic system has two advantages: the operational qualities of the aircraft are not sacrificed in the name of passive stealth, and in any case, advances in detection systems will eventually make passive stealth obsolete, whereas on the contrary, the Rafale's scalability and its SPECTRA electronic protection system will enable it to adapt the Rafale's active stealth to these new sensors and remain at the top of its technological game until 2050.
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This is an 800+ miles launch tracking of a small Terrier malemute rocket.
"The DAS could fill critical capability gaps in the area of ballistic missile defense (BMD)," said Dave Bouchard, program director for F-35 sensors at Northrop Grumman. "We have only scratched the surface on the number of functions the F-35's DAS is capable of providing. With DAS, we've combined instantaneous 360-degree spherical coverage, high frame refresh rates, high resolution, high sensitivity powerful processors and advanced algorithms into a single system. The number of possibilities is endless."
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This gives a Carrier strike group and its escorts more information to cue its SM-3 and SM-6 to their target something your plane lacks.
Sry, but (I) a ballistic missile is an extremely shiny object. Nothing exceptional. (ii) Rafale do not have 6 apertures, you are right. However, you cannot say it 'lacks' this capability. It uses two fish eye sensors to do the same job. And it's IR missile sensors aswell. Maybe not as good as F-35 (who knows for sure? Not me neither you) , but definitely not 'lacking'.This is an 800+ miles launch tracking of a small Terrier malemute rocket.
Northrop Grumman Corporation's AN/AAQ-37 Electro-Optical Distributed Aperture System (DAS) for the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter successfully detected and tracked a two-stage rocket launch at a distance exceeding 800 miles during a routine flight test conducted aboard the company's BAC 1-11 test bed aircraft.
"The DAS could fill critical capability gaps in the area of ballistic missile defense (BMD)," said Dave Bouchard, program director for F-35 sensors at Northrop Grumman. "We have only scratched the surface on the number of functions the F-35's DAS is capable of providing. With DAS, we've combined instantaneous 360-degree spherical coverage, high frame refresh rates, high resolution, high sensitivity powerful processors and advanced algorithms into a single system. The number of possibilities is endless."
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This gives a Carrier strike group and its escorts more information to cue its SM-3 and SM-6 to their target something your plane lacks.
This is an 800+ miles launch tracking of a small Terrier malemute rocket.
Northrop Grumman Corporation's AN/AAQ-37 Electro-Optical Distributed Aperture System (DAS) for the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter successfully detected and tracked a two-stage rocket launch at a distance exceeding 800 miles during a routine flight test conducted aboard the company's BAC 1-11 test bed aircraft.
"The DAS could fill critical capability gaps in the area of ballistic missile defense (BMD)," said Dave Bouchard, program director for F-35 sensors at Northrop Grumman. "We have only scratched the surface on the number of functions the F-35's DAS is capable of providing. With DAS, we've combined instantaneous 360-degree spherical coverage, high frame refresh rates, high resolution, high sensitivity powerful processors and advanced algorithms into a single system. The number of possibilities is endless."
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This gives a Carrier strike group and its escorts more information to cue its SM-3 and SM-6 to their target something your plane lacks.
You poor boy F-35C carries 20k lb of fuel and is the longest range jet fighter the USN has ever had. It will outrange your french plane by a lot since your french plane won't be able to fly at optimum altitude with its 3 draggy tanks and weapons because it will be a beacon to enemy IADS which means it will have to fly low in heavier denser air unlike the F-35 where it can fly at its combat ceiling.
USN carrier strike group doesn't have to get near.
F-35c much longer unrefueled combat radius and once an F-35c gets topped off mid air its radius becomes huge even
F-35As combat radius is huge.
'Active stealth' or ECM electronic counter measures is one thing. The DRFM jamming is a repeater technique that manipulates received radar energy and retransmits it to change the return the radar sees and is a mode of this.
No one is saying it doesn't do this and it may be a translation thing. 'Active Cancelation', which is a very specific thing. Doesn't work on modern radars and definitely doesn't work on interconnected radars. Like the F-35 in the air and those that are land based in missile defence.
Sweetman posted a story that started this myth. It seems this guy has taken it up on a blog. If it is true and it's not classified. As he just said it, so it can't be. Where are the Dassault or Defence department heads saying this? Or any of the countries that have bought a Rafale. Actually finally selling some has messed up the story completely.
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I don't know where this comes from. It has about the same fuel to weight ratio as a Rafale with 2x 2000lb bombs in future F4 and 3 2000 tanks. The F-35 has much more when you add the future Israeli drop tanks. Then you add better flight profile and engine efficiency. Then add tankers and new stealth tankers. Tanking means you aren't giving up weapons for fuel carrying.
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Also that 760nm is a specific mission range, not a ferry range that some think.