Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning and F-22 'Raptor' : News & Discussion

A new display and computer related upgrades have been revealed for TR3, but there's nothing about making changes to the core avionics. B4 is about making existing stuff work.
Google is your friend. I'm too lazy to post an article. To again show you, that you don't have a clue. I haven't seen when the radar is being updated to GaN.

"Lt. Gen. Eric Fick, the Pentagon’s F-35 program executive, has previously acknowledged that the F-35 engine will likely need increased power and thermal management to accommodate Block 4 technologies."

So a plane without FOC already need a new engine...
It was always the plan to have an engine update.
 
Google is your friend. I'm too lazy to post an article. To again show you, that you don't have a clue. I haven't seen when the radar is being updated to GaN.

It was always the plan to have an engine update.
It's an article of august 2021.Hard to tell that this is sheduled update.
Yes an update was probably in the scope but never it was sheduled in the block4 nor the TR-3.
 

"Lt. Gen. Eric Fick, the Pentagon’s F-35 program executive, has previously acknowledged that the F-35 engine will likely need increased power and thermal management to accommodate Block 4 technologies."

So a plane without FOC already need a new engine...
You do know that your french plane is underpowered, eh?

2016 article.
French company Safran, which manufactures the M88 engine of the Dassault Rafale fighter aircraft plans to increase its thrust from 7.5 tone to nine tons.

La Tribune newspaper said yesterday quoting CEO of Safran, Philippe Petitcolin that, the engine upgrade in terms of thrust was necessary as the Rafale had grown heavier over the years due to addition of weapons and other systems.

He said that the original thrust of the Rafale engine was the same since the launch of the French fighter. The Rafale was designed over two decades ago.

However, the upgrade issue had not been discussed with Dassault Aviation, the Safran CEO added.

"It is time to ask the question whether it is appropriate to launch a study that would increase the engine thrust. Technically we can do. We are in discussion with the relevant authorities to see if possible. and if so, under what conditions and at what level of performance, it would be desirable to improve it, said Philippe Petitcolin (the quote has been translated from French).

He disclosed that the UAE which was considering to buy the fighter a few years ago had asked that the engine thrust be increased between eight to nine tons before abandoning the project.

The UAE and France have since renewed talks to buy the Rafale after its recent success in Egypt and Qatar and its selection by India.

Your plane is a pig. It has gotten heavier with no thrust upgrade.
 
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You do know that your french plane is underpowered, eh?

2016 article.
French company Safran, which manufactures the M88 engine of the Dassault Rafale fighter aircraft plans to increase its thrust from 7.5 tone to nine tons.

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He disclosed that the UAE which was considering to buy the fighter a few years ago had asked that the engine thrust be increased between eight to nine tons before abandoning the project.

The UAE and France have since renewed talks to buy the Rafale after its recent success in Egypt and Qatar and its selection by India.
Eh! do you now that a 9 t M-88 was available for UAE in 2016? And do you know that UAE has just bought 80 Rafales with M88s of 7.5 tons of thrust rather than 50 F-35s which are puffy and blistering as soon as they try to pass the sound barrier?
 
It's an article of august 2021.Hard to tell that this is sheduled update.
Yes an update was probably in the scope but never it was sheduled in the block4 nor the TR-3.
engine update was originally scheduled 2000-3? for block 6 in 2018. 10 years late.

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That's exactly what I said. The AETR was not sheduled in the resheduled block4 / TR-3. But considering the lack of power supply for the TR-3 improvment they have to hurry the AETP.
the ADVENT program was like a PEA program in France. Firstly you reduce the risk of a new technology then you adapt it on for example a fighter.
But what I wanted to tell is that the JPO was not able to see this lack of power in the block4/TR-3 and then have lost several years to push a new engine witch should have been included from the beginning in the block4/TR-3. This lack of professionnalism made that now the JPO is under fire in the next NDAA and have to concentrate on fewer task now.
 
It is electrical generation power, that they are talking about. You may find it's for Directed energy systems. as per the picture above.
 
Because America would never sell to both sides! India and Pakistan, Greece and Turkey, Spain and Morocco, Israel and Arab states, Japan and South Korea...
F16 was selled to Greece and Turkey.
F16 was selled to Pakistan and an evolved version, F21, on the agenda for India.
F15 was selled to SK and Japan.
 
Yes, I know and my assumption was that every reader on this forum would know as well. This is a rhetorical device known as sarcasm. Also the past tense of sell is sold, it's an irregular verb.
 
Eh! do you now that a 9 t M-88 was available for UAE in 2016?

Available at hand no. Available as in UAE pay for the development of a brand new engine yes.
And do you know that UAE has just bought 80 Rafales with M88s of 7.5 tons of thrust rather than 50 F-35s which are puffy and blistering as soon as they try to pass the sound barrier?

Well when Biden said no F-35s for you unless you do what we want the UAE became desperate and when you become desperate you become a beggar and beggars can't be choosy. They have to take the french plane as it is heavy and underpowered... According to Safran CEO. ;)
 
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Air force eyes F-35 stealth jets​

The Royal Thai Air Force is eyeing the procurement of eight US-made F-35 stealth jets, the world's most advanced warplane, to strengthen national defence, said its commander-in-chief ACM Napadej Dhupatemiya.

ACM Napadej said the air force needs a new fleet of fighter jets as the ageing F-5 and F-16 aircraft have been in service for more than three decades.

As aircraft age, maintenance costs and safety risks are likely to increase.

The F-35 jets, manufactured by US defence giant Lockheed Martin, have emerged as the best choice now that costs are lower, down to US$82 million (2.7 billion baht) each from $142 million when the model first hit the market, he said.



With the new Swedish-made Saab Gripen priced at $85 million per unit, Lockheed Martin's product is not out of reach, ACM Napadej said. Depending on negotiations, unit prices of the F-35 can be brought down to just above $70 million each, he said.


ACM Napadej said the budget planning for an F-35 acquisition project will be initiated in the 2023 fiscal year, which started in October, and the air force is prepared to answer all questions if it chooses to press ahead with the purchase.

A panel will be set up to study the aircraft procurement programme to justify the air force's request for funding, he said.

According to ACM Napadej, the air force is not buying weapons but is implementing security to defend the people and the nation's interests. He expressed confidence that if the public is on the same page as the air force, it will support the programme.

Given their technological advantages, the F-35 jets will suit the country's needs to enhance its airpower, a vital part of modern warfare, he said.

The air force is aware of budget constraints brought on by the Covid-19 pandemic, he said, noting that it plans to make the purchases in phases and select high-quality products that come with the transfer of technical know-how.

ACM Napadej said the air force is also interested in modern air operations, especially those involving the Loyal Wingman, an unmanned aerial vehicle, in warfare.

Developed by Australia's air force and Boeing, it flies in teams with other aircraft to provide support and it can be fitted with a weapons system, he said.

"We don't require a full fleet of F-35 jets. We may use just eight to 12 and use drones to fly alongside the manned aircraft," ACM Napadej said.


"This will help save costs. This is relatively new but these technologies are likely to develop fast."

"If the air force receives support from the public, including politicians, and if we can afford it, [the air force] will move to upgrade and strengthen its airpower," he said, adding a proposal will be submitted to Prime Minister and Defence Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha for consideration when it is finalised by the air force.

Under the plan, the new fighter jets would be deployed from the Nakhon Ratchasima-based Wing 1.
 

USS Abraham Lincoln Deploys with First Marine Corps F-35C Squadron​


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SAN DIEGO — The USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) departed on a regularly scheduled deployment Jan. 3 as the centerpiece of a carrier strike group that included the Marine Corps’ first F-35C Lightning II squadron.

The Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group (CSG) is led by the command staff of CSG 3 and consists of Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72), Carrier Air Wing Nine (CVW-9), the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Mobile Bay (CG 53), and the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers of Destroyer Squadron 21 (DESRON 21) — USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62), USS Gridley (DDG 101), USS Sampson (DDG 102) and USS Spruance (DDG 111).

CVW-9 includes Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 314 (VMFA-314), the Corps’ first F-35C squadron. The deployment marks the second carrier deployment of the F-35C.

The Marine Corps plans to field a total of four F-35C squadrons and have committed two of them to the Tactical Air Integration program of deploying with CVWs.

The USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) currently is deployed to the Indo-Pacific region with the Navy’s first fleet F-35C squadron, Strike Fighter Squadron 147 (VFA-147), on board.

CVW-9 also includes VFA-141, equipped with F/A-18F Super Hornet Strike Fighters; VFAs 14 and 151, equipped with F/A-18Es; Electronic Attack Squadron 133 (VAQ-133), with EA-18G Growler electronic attack aircraft; Airborne Command and Control Squadron 117 (VAW-117) with E-2D Advanced Hawkeye aircraft; Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 14 (HSC-14) with MH-60S Seahawk helicopters; Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 71 (HSM-71) with MH-60R Seahawk helicopters; and a detachment of Fleet Logistics Multi-Mission Squadron 30 (VRM-30), equipped with the CMV-22B Osprey carrier-onboard delivery aircraft.

“The entire CSG 3 team is trained and ready to deter and, if necessary, win conflicts as called upon by our nation’s leaders,” said Rear Adm. J.T. Anderson, commander, Carrier Strike Group 3, in a release from U.S. 3rd Fleet. “As we leave today on this routine, scheduled deployment, I know the Sailors and Marines of this team will continue to serve this great nation and its people. It is our honor to do so.”

Two CVN's with F-35C's in the western Pacific now. If US does decide to protect Taiwan so many chicom attack aircraft and their escorts are not going to know what hit them. USN with F-18E's II/III, F-18G, E2-Ds and USAF AEW&C already had the SA/Battle Space picture advantaged with F-35s in the AO it brings it to another level. F-35C's can pretty much make a flight of F-18Es stealth planes.
 
This makes nice targets for the DF-21D and DF-26, also known as 'carrier killers'

But just incase the BS hype is real...

Also with F-35s which can see a ballistic missile launch at 500+miles and track it at farther ranges once missile is in line of sight of F-35 EODAS it can give SM6 missiles targeting information. Something your french plane lacks.