Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning and F-22 'Raptor' : News & Discussion

How the F-35 overcame its growing pains to become the future of air warfare​

  • The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter faced technological and procurement difficulties for much of its history.
  • But the F-35 appears not merely to have endured those issues but to have prevailed over competing jets.
  • Its capabilities, wide acceptance, and the lobbying behind it mean the F-35 is set for a dominant future.
Lockheed Martin's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter appears not merely to have endured; it seems to be prevailing.

Beset by technological and procurement difficulties for much of its history, the F-35 "Panther" is seeing serious procurement success. Some 730 F-35s have entered service with 14 military services across 10 countries, with five more countries awaiting delivery.

Two high-profile customers have decided to acquire the F-35 over the last year. The first was Switzerland, which agreed to purchase 36 F-35s in order to replace a fleet of antiquated F-5s and middle-aged F/A-18s. Switzerland had previously come to terms with Saab to purchase Gripen fighters, but a 2014 referendum on the deal failed to gain a majority.

The second customer was Finland, which agreed to purchase 64 F-35s to replace its existing inventory of F/A-18s. We have an unusual amount of detail regarding Finland's decision to acquire the Panther, which rested on combat capability, battlespace management, and survivability.

As Jonathan Caverly has quipped, the F-35 is America's Belt and Road, a massive financial, technical, and military project that has now embraced dozens of countries.

In a sense, the F-35 is an AUKUS, just on a truly multinational scale. The aircraft seems to be perpetually in crisis (video of an F-35B falling off a Royal Navy aircraft carrier made the rounds last month), but perpetually moving forward. In nearly every open fighter competition, the F-35 has prevailed.

On its face this is hardly surprising; the F-35 is a much more modern platform than its primary competitors in the West: the Dassault Rafale, F-15 Eagle, Eurofighter Typhoon, Saab Gripen, and F/A-18 Hornet. The youngest of those fighters entered service more than a decade before the F-35; the oldest some four decades.

Moreover, while a variety of updates have created a "Generation 4.5," none of the competitor aircraft have the stealth or integrated sensor capabilities of the F-35.

The fact that the United States has adopted and continues to acquire the F-35 undoubtedly has a positive impact on its popularity. The F-35 is operated by three different US services, suggesting that its presence will endure for some time and thus that upgrades, replacements, and new weapons systems will long be available to customers who want them.

The inclusion of Switzerland and Finland is particularly notable given that they are not bound to Washington by any treaty obligations. Of course, both countries had previously operated US-built aircraft, but they have not historically kept Washington at some political distance. That both have now agreed to effectively become dependent on the US aerospace industry says much about both the aircraft itself and the direction of the geostrategic winds.

The F-35 may continue to see success in the future. Spain's attitude towards the F-35 remains confused and uncertain, with denials of interest followed rapidly by denials of the denial of interest. Poland's decision to acquire the F-35 may spark addition interest in Central and Eastern European countries.

Recall also that the United States will refuse to sell the F-35 to countries that do not abide by certain obligations with respect to foreign arms sales. The US removed Turkey from the F-35 project at some economic and reputational cost because Ankara insisted on acquiring the S-400 air-defense system from Russia. India's decision to acquire the S-400 will probably also exclude it from consideration as an F-35 export target.

Concerns over espionage may quash the UAE's acquisition of F-35s, and in general, the prospects for sales in the Middle East beyond Israel don't seem particularly bright.

The proverbial dog that hasn't barked is Canada, which had a plan in place to acquire the F-35 in 2015 but decided to re-open bidding after the victory of Justin Trudeau. Trudeau ran against the F-35 buy in his first election, and had dithered about the process of replacing Canada's aging fleet of F/A-18s.

There seems to be little doubt that the Trudeau government has resisted and delayed an open competition because it believes that the F-35 will win handily; there is even now talk of using the F-35 purchase to leverage concessions on electric-vehicle parts. That eight members of NATO have acquired or will acquire the F-35 puts Canada into an even more awkward position.

To be sure, the F-35 has had its share of difficulties. It has also loomed large as a cultural and political artifact. The F-35s travails have played out under the harsh glare of social media (and if you wonder, dear reader, whether the F-35 has a Twitter account, wonder no longer) and in a deeply partisan political environment.

But we sometimes forget that many of the aircraft that have flown for the US armed forces have gone through severe teething troubles; the F-16, for example, was effectively disowned by its progenitors before it even entered service.

Essentially, the F-35 program wins because it has created a reality in which it is clearly the best choice for a certain class of customers. Lockheed Martin's political strategy for ensuring the success of the aircraft is a tour de force of domestic and international lobbying. As the number of customers increases, the aircraft becomes even more attractive.

And since the Next Generation fighter project may be poorly structured for export pre-eminence, the dominance of the F-35 may stretch far into the future.

Spot on article. The most advanced fighter to ever be built pulled it off under the scrutinizing eye of media, social media, politicians and french/french plane fanboy forum warriors.

Too bad India will be stuck with 4th gen fighters for the foreseeable future while India's most powerful enemy's air force moves on to the next level of fighter aircraft. But hey at least they can fool themselves into believing the french plane is something more special than it really is or maybe they have actually realized the french plane is not what they thought it was which is why they capped it at 36.

F-35 comes with small conditions that over a dozen nations are happy to live with.
 

How the F-35 overcame its growing pains to become the future of air warfare​

  • The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter faced technological and procurement difficulties for much of its history.
  • But the F-35 appears not merely to have endured those issues but to have prevailed over competing jets.
  • Its capabilities, wide acceptance, and the lobbying behind it mean the F-35 is set for a dominant future.
Lockheed Martin's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter appears not merely to have endured; it seems to be prevailing.

Beset by technological and procurement difficulties for much of its history, the F-35 "Panther" is seeing serious procurement success. Some 730 F-35s have entered service with 14 military services across 10 countries, with five more countries awaiting delivery.

Two high-profile customers have decided to acquire the F-35 over the last year. The first was Switzerland, which agreed to purchase 36 F-35s in order to replace a fleet of antiquated F-5s and middle-aged F/A-18s. Switzerland had previously come to terms with Saab to purchase Gripen fighters, but a 2014 referendum on the deal failed to gain a majority.

The second customer was Finland, which agreed to purchase 64 F-35s to replace its existing inventory of F/A-18s. We have an unusual amount of detail regarding Finland's decision to acquire the Panther, which rested on combat capability, battlespace management, and survivability.

As Jonathan Caverly has quipped, the F-35 is America's Belt and Road, a massive financial, technical, and military project that has now embraced dozens of countries.

In a sense, the F-35 is an AUKUS, just on a truly multinational scale. The aircraft seems to be perpetually in crisis (video of an F-35B falling off a Royal Navy aircraft carrier made the rounds last month), but perpetually moving forward. In nearly every open fighter competition, the F-35 has prevailed.

On its face this is hardly surprising; the F-35 is a much more modern platform than its primary competitors in the West: the Dassault Rafale, F-15 Eagle, Eurofighter Typhoon, Saab Gripen, and F/A-18 Hornet. The youngest of those fighters entered service more than a decade before the F-35; the oldest some four decades.

Moreover, while a variety of updates have created a "Generation 4.5," none of the competitor aircraft have the stealth or integrated sensor capabilities of the F-35.

The fact that the United States has adopted and continues to acquire the F-35 undoubtedly has a positive impact on its popularity. The F-35 is operated by three different US services, suggesting that its presence will endure for some time and thus that upgrades, replacements, and new weapons systems will long be available to customers who want them.

The inclusion of Switzerland and Finland is particularly notable given that they are not bound to Washington by any treaty obligations. Of course, both countries had previously operated US-built aircraft, but they have not historically kept Washington at some political distance. That both have now agreed to effectively become dependent on the US aerospace industry says much about both the aircraft itself and the direction of the geostrategic winds.

The F-35 may continue to see success in the future. Spain's attitude towards the F-35 remains confused and uncertain, with denials of interest followed rapidly by denials of the denial of interest. Poland's decision to acquire the F-35 may spark addition interest in Central and Eastern European countries.

Recall also that the United States will refuse to sell the F-35 to countries that do not abide by certain obligations with respect to foreign arms sales. The US removed Turkey from the F-35 project at some economic and reputational cost because Ankara insisted on acquiring the S-400 air-defense system from Russia. India's decision to acquire the S-400 will probably also exclude it from consideration as an F-35 export target.

Concerns over espionage may quash the UAE's acquisition of F-35s, and in general, the prospects for sales in the Middle East beyond Israel don't seem particularly bright.

The proverbial dog that hasn't barked is Canada, which had a plan in place to acquire the F-35 in 2015 but decided to re-open bidding after the victory of Justin Trudeau. Trudeau ran against the F-35 buy in his first election, and had dithered about the process of replacing Canada's aging fleet of F/A-18s.

There seems to be little doubt that the Trudeau government has resisted and delayed an open competition because it believes that the F-35 will win handily; there is even now talk of using the F-35 purchase to leverage concessions on electric-vehicle parts. That eight members of NATO have acquired or will acquire the F-35 puts Canada into an even more awkward position.

To be sure, the F-35 has had its share of difficulties. It has also loomed large as a cultural and political artifact. The F-35s travails have played out under the harsh glare of social media (and if you wonder, dear reader, whether the F-35 has a Twitter account, wonder no longer) and in a deeply partisan political environment.

But we sometimes forget that many of the aircraft that have flown for the US armed forces have gone through severe teething troubles; the F-16, for example, was effectively disowned by its progenitors before it even entered service.

Essentially, the F-35 program wins because it has created a reality in which it is clearly the best choice for a certain class of customers. Lockheed Martin's political strategy for ensuring the success of the aircraft is a tour de force of domestic and international lobbying. As the number of customers increases, the aircraft becomes even more attractive.

And since the Next Generation fighter project may be poorly structured for export pre-eminence, the dominance of the F-35 may stretch far into the future.

Spot on article. The most advanced fighter to ever be built pulled it off under the scrutinizing eye of media, social media, politicians and french/french plane fanboy forum warriors.

Too bad India will be stuck with 4th gen fighters for the foreseeable future while India's most powerful enemy's air force moves on to the next level of fighter aircraft. But hey at least they can fool themselves into believing the french plane is something more special than it really is or maybe they have actually realized the french plane is not what they thought it was which is why they capped it at 36.

F-35 comes with small conditions that over a dozen nations are happy to live with.
Trailer park boy can't go two posts without mentioning Dassault , Rafale , IAF , how IAF is unlucky to not be getting the JSF & to be saddled with the Rafale , how the Chinese are expected to completely dominate the skies in Asia & on & on .

Can't tell if he's lobbying for LM or is desperate to seek the validation of the French & Indians for his wonder weapon.
 
"The F-35A tally for Japan is now 170 aircraft ordered in two batches of 65 and 105 aircraft. Regarding the F-35B, there were 84 aircraft in two orders that were finalized."

- Rumors from f-16.net

F-35A's = 41 + 105 = 146
F-35B's = 84

Total = 230 F-35's for Japan.

Meanwhile UK is gonna make out like bandits buying like 70 or something. Benefits of investing early I suppose.



Take the odds on F-35 passing the F-16 in numbers.

Uh so maybe the Indian Navy can get in on this F-35 action :0
 
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"The F-35A tally for Japan is now 170 aircraft ordered in two batches of 65 and 105 aircraft. Regarding the F-35B, there were 84 aircraft in two orders that were finalized."

- Rumors from f-16.net

F-35A's = 41 + 105 = 146
F-35B's = 84

Total = 230 F-35's for Japan.

Meanwhile UK is gonna make out like bandits buying like 70 or something. Benefits of investing early I suppose.



Take the odds on F-35 passing the F-16 in numbers.

Uh so maybe the Indian Navy can get in on this F-35 action :0
Entirely depends if the f-35 can fit into our aircraft carrier hangers and lifts.
 
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I just think it's realistic for the Indian Navy to get a catapult fifth gen aircraft out, but entirely not worth it to develop a STOVL aircraft at all.
 
Too bad India will be stuck with 4th gen fighters for the foreseeable future while India's most powerful enemy's air force moves on to the next level of fighter aircraft. But hey at least they can fool themselves into believing the french plane is something more special than it really is or maybe they have actually realized the french plane is not what they thought it was which is why they capped it at 36.

F-35 comes with small conditions that over a dozen nations are happy to live with.
India and IAF was stuck with 2nd generation trainer fighter Gnat during 1965 and 1971 war when Pakistan had moved on to 3rd generation US fighter the Mighty F86 Sabre jets and yet IAF kicked the A-$$ of that mighty US Fighter with a second generation British Trainer aircraft... 🤗😊

More recently IAF brought down mighty US 4th generation Fighter F16 by a 3rd generation MiG-21.. 😊

Rafales are more or less at par with F-35s and much ahead of what our main adversaries Pakistan and China are flying right now. J-20 won't be ready even by the end of this decade as it's still waiting for next gen Engines and is flying with Russian engine which are a generation behind the Russians themselves, no chance of China or Pakistan getting F-35s, any improvements to F-35s with future blocks will be matched by Rafale upgrade program F4, F4.2, F4.2R, F5, etc. This will also keep Rafales ahead of any Chinese improvement to J-20s avionics wise.. 😊
 
India and IAF was stuck with 2nd generation trainer fighter Gnat during 1965 and 1971 war when Pakistan had moved on to 3rd generation US fighter the Mighty F86 Sabre jets and yet IAF kicked the A-$$ of that mighty US Fighter with a second generation British Trainer aircraft... 🤗😊

Stop living in the past incase you haven't notice this isn't the 70s. Maybe this is why the chicom air force has surpassed you by a lot? IAF living in the past at a time when china was a third world air force.
More recently IAF brought down mighty US 4th generation Fighter F16 by a 3rd generation MiG-21.. 😊

That is what your government and media is feeding its people. I can understand why they would do such a thing when a nations pride is hurt just lie to them.
Rafales are more or less at par with F-35s and much ahead of what our main adversaries Pakistan and China are flying right now. J-20 won't be ready even by the end of this decade as it's still waiting for next gen Engines and is flying with Russian engine which are a generation behind the Russians themselves, no chance of China or Pakistan getting F-35s, any improvements to F-35s with future blocks will be matched by Rafale upgrade program F4, F4.2, F4.2R, F5, etc. This will also keep Rafales ahead of any Chinese improvement to J-20s avionics wise.. 😊

Oh boy. You must have been living under a rock when Swiss and Finland selected the F-35 over the french plane? The french plane didn't even make it to the next round in Finland. Swiss made it clear how far advanced the F-35 is to the french plane but it is clear that many french plane fanboys believe a delusion.
 
Stop living in the past incase you haven't notice this isn't the 70s. Maybe this is why the chicom air force has surpassed you by a lot? IAF living in the past at a time when china was a third world air force.
The only fighter plane chicom Air force has which is better than IAF technologically is Su-35 and J16 again a flanker derivative. After Super Sukhoi upgrade IAF su30mkis will surpass them by miles. Rafales are already better than what chicoms can throw at us.

That is what your government and media is feeding its people. I can understand why they would do such a thing when a nations pride is hurt just lie to them.

Lest you forget the cover up by US to protect its pride and MIC...😊

Oh boy. You must have been living under a rock when Swiss and Finland selected the F-35 over the french plane? The french plane didn't even make it to the next round in Finland. Swiss made it clear how far advanced the F-35 is to the french plane but it is clear that many french plane fanboys believe a delusion.

Agree to some extent F-35s are better than Rafale ( though maybe not much to make any meaningful difference during war) but what use if it comes with strings attached and keys with US which will decide against whom we can use F-35s and against whom we can't. Plus what weapons (S400) we can buy and what weapons we can't. Plus with which country (Russia) we can have friendly relations and with which we can't and a fear of sanctions if for our security we decide to go for another round of nuclear tests or maybe long range ICBMs exceeding 12000-16000kms reaching any part of US (we do have Capabilities but not testing just not to intimidate US).

So there are several things to consider before choosing the right weapon for our need. Here Rafale does the job with no strings attached. Same like Finland and Switzerland know buying US fighter ensures US support in the event of war...😊
 
I wish more people realized Elan, battle experience, culture, blah blah all this stuff is important but is overstated in history. A lot of ancient battles completely overstate enemy and understated their own. They did a study and concluded that most battles in ancient times went to the guy with more men most of the time. Statistically it was exactly what you'd expect, but that's not how history narratives are presented. Clever plays, big strategy is useless sometimes to raw power. Caesar and Napoleon won because they concentrated more men and weapons at the decisive point even if outnumbered massively in a campaign.

Training, weapons, logistics, planning play way more of a role. Human factor in war is exponentially decreasing every year as weapons become more smart and AI develops. Warfare is becoming closer to video game theory.

US Army's best performance was a completely untested and never fought a battle before in the Gulf War. Meanwhile experienced Vietnam Army was a garbage dumpster fire.
 
The only fighter plane chicom Air force has which is better than IAF technologically is Su-35 and J16 again a flanker derivative. After Super Sukhoi upgrade IAF su30mkis will surpass them by miles. Rafales are already better than what chicoms can throw at us.

The only fighter that is not useless against china and considered "modern" are your 30 french planes. IAF flankers are and will be useless against chicom air force since they know what your SU-30's are capable of since they have many type of flankers of their own. Their J-10c's and J-20s likely practice combat against their flankers in IAF colors. IAF is out classed and outmatched by a lot.
Lest you forget the cover up by US to protect its pride and MIC...😊


Do you people even read your links? If you did are you having trouble with comprehending it? Where the hell does it say he's supposed to prevent PAF pilots from taking off engaging and shooting down IAF fighters? What point are you trying to make with this article?

Let me see if I can help...

-Wilson was stationed at Shahbaz air base, Pakistan, from March 2018-2019, serving as the Technical Security Team (TST) superintendent. He led four U.S. Air Force Airmen and 30 U.S. contractors and executed end-use monitoring of U.S. weapons and technology, preventing the unauthorized transfer to other countries.

He managed the security compliance oversight for Pakistan’s F-16 program, enabling Pakistani counterinsurgency and counterterrorism operations to successfully prevent violent extremist organizations from sabotaging the efforts of the Pakistan state.

“Wilson’s leadership in completing the TST mission ensured the partnership between the U.S. and Pakistan remained strong to maintain the strategic purpose of their relationship,” said Maj. Americo Penaflor, 50th Missile Defense Agency, Schriever AFB, Colo., deputy of strategic planning, and Wilson’s prior TST chief in Pakistan. “The protection of technology through the processes that Wilson enforced was literally the glue that held together the U.S. and Pakistan relationship. If this mission failed and the aircraft were compromised, there would be negative impacts to the counterterrorism mission in which Pakistan supports the U.S.”

Wilson and his team also prevented the loss of technology on the F-16. They checked every component of the fighter jet and observed the avionics and guidance-type components of the aircraft.

While preventing the loss of technology, the military members provided 24/7 enhanced end-use monitoring (EUM) of the PAF F-16’s military weapons and technical data. This ensured both nations complied with the letter of agreement, which outlined those steps with which Pakistan was tasked in order to protect the aircraft’s technology.

Okaaaay. What am I missing here? That he prevented US tech from going missing, stolen and compromised?!?! He did a good job at that. His job (AGAIN) was not to stop the PAF from flying their fighters and shooting down IAF aggressors.

Agree to some extent F-35s are better than Rafale ( though maybe not much to make any meaningful difference during war)


Lol. The gap is wider than you think which is why nations that have a choice select F-35 over the french plane. French plane can't hide a flight of four 4th gen fighters from a flight of eight enemy 4th gen fighters (aggressor squad) while keeping its own signature hidden like the F-35 can.
but what use if it comes with strings attached and keys with US which will decide against whom we can use F-35s and against whom we can't. Plus what weapons (S400) we can buy and what weapons we can't. Plus with which country (Russia) we can have friendly relations and with which we can't and a fear of sanctions if for our security we decide to go for another round of nuclear tests or maybe long range ICBMs exceeding 12000-16000kms reaching any part of US (we do have Capabilities but not testing just not to intimidate US).

Your apaches come with strings attached you know? PAF F-16s came with strings attached but that didn't stop them from shooting down an IAF fighter now did it? Nobody is telling you don't have relations with Russia either that is all in your mind you know how I know that..? Because the US hasn't offered India the F-35! S400 conditions are nothing but speculation because of what happened to Turkey no US official has ever said India can't have F-35 because of S400 since the F-35 has never been offered. India has been interested in the F-35 but the US isn't there yet.
So there are several things to consider before choosing the right weapon for our need. Here Rafale does the job with no strings attached. Same like Finland and Switzerland know buying US fighter ensures US support in the event of war...😊

Does the job huh? Which is why it was capped at 36? Lol.
 
Lol. The gap is wider than you think which is why nations that have a choice select F-35 over the french plane. French plane can't hide a flight of four 4th gen fighters from a flight of eight enemy 4th gen fighters (aggressor squad) while keeping its own signature hidden like the F-35 can.
And that's why the French have sold 146 Rafales for export in 2021, while the marvelous F-35 has only managed 100 sales by being forced to sell at a loss. And we know that there will be other years like 2021. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
And that's why the French have sold 146 Rafales for export in 2021, while the marvelous F-35 has only managed 100 sales by being forced to sell at a loss. And we know that there will be other years like 2021. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Lol. Nations where F-35 is not being offered. Once Biden put conditions on UAE derailing Trumps deal UAE said oh crap and announced french plane deal. Just remember Europe if F-35 territory and it aint done yet. Spain in next followed by the former commie nations. France will be surrounded by nations flying the most advanced fighter ever.
 
And that's why the French have sold 146 Rafales for export in 2021, while the marvelous F-35 has only managed 100 sales by being forced to sell at a loss. And we know that there will be other years like 2021. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Yeah and the F-22 has sold 0 copies for export ever so Rafale much be better too according to your high school internet troll skills. :rolleyes:

Bow down to the supreme Rafale overlord. It managed to win one year of exporting.
 
The slowdown in deliveries is starting to cause operational problems. For example, I just read that the inventory is short 600 f-35s and it is impossible to compensate with more flying hours with the existing f-35s. In spite of this and knowing that, the usaf continues to lower its orders for the f-35.

On the other hand, what is important is that it is very difficult to make the F-35 evolve and therefore to maintain its advantage over its potential adversaries.

The US has invested enormous sums in the F-35 program, and the results are not as good as expected, or at least not yet. From there, the question arises as to whether it is better to ensure its back by relaunching old production or, on the contrary, to accelerate and make a new aircraft even more advanced than the F35 by correcting the latter's defects.

This is part of a purely American debate! They prefer venture capital, risk financing, to the "precautionary principle".

One can observe that the discourse is no longer so blissful and more in tune with the USAF's feedback. The USAF makes the following observations:
  • The US fleet is aging and lacks 600 aircraft.
  • the potentially opposing fleets (especially the Chinese) are renewing themselves and closing the technological gap on which the US was counting to give them superiority
  • The budget is not expandable so quickly and budget constraints impose choices.
We can also sense that there is some panic in the face of this situation. If the publication calls for accelerating the production of the F-35, it is mainly because it is the only one currently available. We can see that the NGAD is attracting all kinds of hopes.
 

-The Pentagon on Monday awarded Lockheed Martin a $49.05 million contract that provides engineering and other related activities in support of the design and development of a Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) aircraft variant tailored for an unspecified Foreign Military Sales (FMS) customer.

The identity of this FMS customer buying this ‘tailored JSF variant,’ could be the matter of much speculation. Currently, barring Israel, all other JSF customers receive the standard variants. Only Israel has been allowed to have its own variant called F-35I ADIR AS-1.

Work on the new JSF variant is expected to be completed in December 2026 and will be performed in Fort Worth, Texas (77%); Redondo Beach, California (14%); Orlando, Florida (6%); Baltimore, Maryland (1%); Owego, New York (1%) and Samlesbury, United Kingdom (1%), a Pentagon contracts announcement said.

FMS funds in the amount $49,059,494 will be obligated at time of award, none of which will expire at the end of the current fiscal year.

The Pentagon contract in favor of the unspecified FMS customers comes just a couple of weeks after the U.S. indicated that it is keen to move forward with the sale of F-35 fighter jets to the U.A.E. after the latter called off procurement talks citing stiff end-user conditions.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Washington had to conduct some “reviews” but was prepared to move forward with the sale.

"We've wanted to make sure, for example, that our commitment to Israel's qualitative military edge is assured, so we wanted to make sure that we could do a thorough review of any technologies that are sold or transferred to other partners in the region, including the UAE," Blinken said.

Could it be UAE? UAE decided it wanted the F-35 so bad that they are okay with "tailored" version of the F-35 because they know the french plane is not capable of striking heavily defended airspace with advanced IADS? They may also know and fear that only half of their french plane fleet will be available during a conflict since french plane has a 50-55% MCR in the french air force.

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Could it be UAE? UAE decided it wanted the F-35 so bad that they are okay with "tailored" version of the F-35 because they know the french plane is not capable of striking heavily defended airspace with advanced IADS? They may also know and fear that only half of their french plane fleet will be available during a conflict since french plane has a 50-55% MCR in the french air force.

:)
Ah ah! This is not the first time this type of contract has been awarded:

The US F-35 is ILLEGAL to export, so foreign countries get a delta version. This version takes account of the technical constraints imposed by the US government's export policy but still have commonality with America's version of the fighter jet.

This resulted in an initial contract to Lockheed Martin Corp. on November 10, 2003, a $602,594,580 cost-plus-award-fee contract "to support the performance of the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) International Partner Version Delta Systems development and demonstration effort. . .Lockheed Martin will design, develop, verify and test a version of the JSF air system that is as common as possible to the U.S. air system within the National Disclosure Policy."

This was the birth of the F-35AD and F-35BD, "as common as possible" to the US variants. There have been two subsequent cost-plus contracts to Lockheed for "Delta" development: contract November 15, 2007 for $134,188,724 and contract March 30, 2012 for $39,300,000.

To get an idea of the work to be done I also have a job description associated with this export version:

"Supported the formulation of Delta System Development and Demonstration Program Requirements through process refinement, interpretation of trade studies and modification of existing Joint Air Systems Contract Specifications. - Effectively managed and coordinated the Partner Joint Strike Fighter Contract Specifications including Proposed Specification Change Notices - Coordinated and supported Major International Requirements Working Group activities for continued Partner JCS Development..."

I also have a document that was unveiled by the Canadian government and discloses that the export version of the F-35 reduces by 95% the RCS of the previous generation aircraft. (see the 3rd line of the second page)


As for the radar performances we take the size of a standard fighter as equivalent to a RCS of 3 m2 that gives for the F-35 a RCS of 0.15 m2 instead of 0.0015 m2

:ROFLMAO:
 
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