Battle of two paper concept,but AMCA is better?how,I said so....Why would we buy a medium category stealth plane that is under development when our AMCA is going to be better than it in every which way
Battle of two paper concept,but AMCA is better?how,I said so....Why would we buy a medium category stealth plane that is under development when our AMCA is going to be better than it in every which way
There's no time for integration on the F-35. Even UK and Italy who have been partners from day 1 are having difficulty getting the Meteor integrated on time.I don't support F-35 for IAF at all(my picks for IAF 5th gen jets are Su-57M/AMCA). However, F-35C for Indian Navy sounds good to me.
But the problem is, will US allow us to integrate our weapons on F-35? Dassault allowed us to just do that. So ASTRA1/2/3 and Brahmos-NG are going to be integrated with Rafale-I. Until US allows us that along with full sovereignty to use these planes as we wish, no US plane is going to be bought by India, period.
Well this is getting interesting...
What dafuq did we (we as all of earth) shoot down?
There's no time for integration on the F-35. Even UK and Italy who have been partners from day 1 are having difficulty getting the Meteor integrated on time.
Integration for block 4 is one of the busiest. I think if it's the Indian Navy operating the jets, domestic integration is a bit overrated here. India could get it integrated eventually, but not before 2029.
Do you really imagine all is said in an advertising news ?They make all these claims about the RBE2 except for one... guess which that is?
Active Electronically Scanned Array - AESA RBE2 radar
The AESA RBE2 is the very high performance radar for the omnirole Rafale combat aircraft. It has been designed in close collaboration with Dassault Aviation and DGA -French defence procurement agency- to meet expectations of Air Forces by combining advanced fire control radar detection and...www.thalesgroup.comRAFALE India - AESA Radar- The Future Of Air Defence
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You telling me a Rafaile expert like yourself had no clue?
No. This document was made in 2011 and in reference to M model, not to the A one.That is a claim they made back during the A model days. Isn't funny that there's no date when this happened? No numbers how long it took to reach mach 1.4 without burners and how much fuel it had left when it reached mach 1.4? How far it went in mach 1.4? All that sht is available, somewhat, when it comes to the F-22.
Now that is sad. You are using a PR note for an air show, by an unnamed author. It could have been worse, he could have added the drop tank. You might as well cite yourself. let me know what the Indian air force says the same thing.No. This document was made in 2011 and in reference to M model, not to the A one.
(And If I remember well there was never a mention of supercruise for A model, but I'm not sure)View attachment 26508
time... fuel... not a supercruise specific problem. All the birds going to supersonic use a lot a fuel and (shorter and shorter) time.
That's why IAF or even IN would never buy F-35. India is not just a US ally but an independent power ever since its Independence. USA must understand that.There's no time for integration on the F-35. Even UK and Italy who have been partners from day 1 are having difficulty getting the Meteor integrated on time.
Integration for block 4 is one of the busiest. I think if it's the Indian Navy operating the jets, domestic integration is a bit overrated here. India could get it integrated eventually, but not before 2029.
Since Block 2B is the first block to have any claimed combat capability, that IOC—if and when it is declared—will be lacking required 2B “operationally-relevant … performance” combat capabilities, according to the DOT&E report. Those capabilities and their flight tests are now deferred to later Blocks 3i and 3F, which introduce an all-new computer but will not have “Full Operational Capability” (FOC). The first FOC system will be Block 4, currently scheduled to be declared fully capable in 2022—assuming no further schedule slips in the intervening seven years.
Knowing the Americans they & only they are good enough to attempt a salvage of a catastrophe like this by saying it's been a learning curve pointing out to the various committee reports by Congress, DoD & the services on this project besides audit reports by various governmental organizations & multiple case studies launched by academia think tanks etc over the yrs on this project.
In 2015 the FOC was planned with block 4 in 2022, i.e. 7 years later, and in 2023 the FOC is planned in 2030 with block 4, i.e. 7 years later
Moharf ha Ha HA HA HA Ha HA HA HA !!!!
It is a well documented fact. known for years and not denied by competitors.Now that is sad. You are using a PR note for an air show, by an unnamed author. It could have been worse, he could have added the drop tank. You might as well cite yourself. let me know what the Indian air force says the same thing.
For those with a bit of a memory. The Indian air force did speed runs in the competition. the results were published at the time and should still be available
'Well documented fact' That's great, so it shouldn't be too hard for you to post an official Dassault statement or spec.It is a well documented fact. known for years and not denied by competitors.
Supercruise : F22 > EF2000 > Rafale.
Non supercuising : F35, Gripen, M2000, F16....
'Well documented fact' That's great, so it shouldn't be too hard for you to post an official Dassault statement or spec.
Another one, more interesting : publication from Dassault International itself in 2005 :'Well documented fact' That's great, so it shouldn't be too hard for you to post an official Dassault statement or spec.
That's a pilot. With unspecified qualifiers. like straight and level flight and not a dive. You need to have an official dassault.Another one, more interesting : publication from Dassault International itself in 2005 :
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That's not an official dassault, it's a PR blurb by an unknown author.Les performances du Rafale
Capable de manœuvrer sous un facteur de charge de 11g, le Rafale dispose également une autonomie de 13 heures de vol.omnirole-rafale.com
The document used is the same than me. It is an official Dassault document.
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