Concorde is not supercruising, if I remember well (I'm not sure).And a Concorde would easily outrun a Rafale without even using the afterburners. What's your point?
And no concorde are air worthy for years.
Concorde is not supercruising, if I remember well (I'm not sure).And a Concorde would easily outrun a Rafale without even using the afterburners. What's your point?
Concorde supercruised at Mach 2. You don't seriously think they had the afterburners on constantly for every flight.Concorde is not supercruising, if I remember well (I'm not sure).
And no concorde are air worthy for years.
The aircraft used reheat (afterburners) at take-off and to pass through the upper transonic regime and to supersonic speeds, between Mach 0.95 and 1.7. The afterburners were switched off at all other times.
Cruise speed: 1,340 mph (2,158 km/h, 1,164 kn)
I have to imagine all the people who claim the F-35 is a paper lemon are either completely delusional or are sad trolls.
Even the biggest critics have to acknowledge the progress the last 3 years lol.
I have to imagine all the people who claim the F-35 is a paper lemon are either completely delusional or are sad trolls.
Even the biggest critics have to acknowledge the progress the last 3 years lol.
Can't better a Jaguar in what way? They'll certainly outmanoeuvre it and don't forget that a Jaguar never flies clean. Most people overlook the SA, EW and stealth attributes completely and focus on stupid stuff like the ability to do Mach 2. A Rafale can't even do Mach 2 clean, neither can a Super Hornet. It's honestly not something that's needed or used for air superiority.Depends on who you ask and which variant you are talking about. Against the F-22, it's a complete lemon. Against desert donkeys, it's overkill.
Also, the last 3 years not a lot has changed. A lot of the Block 3F work has apparently been transferred to Block 4. For example, the aircraft's flight controls are still highly restricted, which prevents it from doing some basic functions like dodging missiles. This should have been a Block 3F fix, but it's still not been done.
Or that some variants cannot perform better than IAF's underpowered Jaguars at high altitude, which is actually a very serious issue compared to the previous one.
I am not a F-35 critic with vested interests, and I'm hoping the US gets a really good fighter jet in the end, but right now it's barely even a fighter jet. Any serious air force should consider the jet only after 2024-25, when Block 4B is released. And I do believe the majority of export inductions are post that period, current inductions are primarily about training and a few missions that it's actually ready for, like close air support and defensive close air patrol.
Can't better a Jaguar in what way? They'll certainly outmanoeuvre it and don't forget that a Jaguar never flies clean. Most people overlook the SA, EW and stealth attributes completely and focus on stupid stuff like the ability to do Mach 2. A Rafale can't even do Mach 2 clean, neither can a Super Hornet. It's honestly not something that's needed or used for air superiority.
I have my criticisms, I wouldn't have based all 3 variants on the same aircraft, the VSTOL should have been separate to the CATOBAR and CTOL versions, and it should have side launchers for SRAAMs but it's still worth at least 2 of any non-5th gen fighter even though it will likely never have to compete 1:2 based on the number being made.
That's complete garbage, the F-35's service ceiling is higher than that of a clean Jaguar, the climb rate and TWR are also way higher, like twice as high even with a much higher internal fuel fraction. A Tornado GR1 is closer to an Su-30 than a Jaguar is to an F-35.The F-35's restricted flight envelope does not allow it to perform any better than the Jaguar at high altitude, and Jaguar's performance at high altitude is quite limited.
The F-35B is the best of the three. It's overspeced for the role it's meant for. But it's a different story that its development is still quite some time away from finishing.
That's complete garbage, the F-35's service ceiling is higher than that of a clean Jaguar, the climb rate and TWR are also way higher, like twice as high even with a much higher internal fuel fraction. A Tornado GR1 is closer to an Su-30 than a Jaguar is to an F-35.
It's already passed ISD though.
Anybody going?Apparently F-35s are coming to Lucknow on Defexpo 2020
High-flyers Rafale, F-35 Lightning in for touchdown at Defence Expo - Times of India
Not me, I have practicals. @Ashwin @nair @BlackOpsIndia et al what about you guys ? Anybody going ?Anybody going?
Not many planes can manoeuvre well at their service ceiling, if they could generate enough lift to turn well and maintain speed and altitude then it wouldn't be their service ceiling now would it? Have you been taking aerodynamics lectures in Pakistan or something?Yeah, it can climb to that altitude, but that's about. It can't do speed or manoeuvre. FCS and airframe limitations come into play here, not engine limitations, whereas Jaguar has engine limitations.
Not many planes can manoeuvre well at their service ceiling, if they could generate enough lift to turn well and maintain speed and altitude then it wouldn't be their service ceiling now would it? Have you been taking aerodynamics lectures in Pakistan or something?
Nope.....Lucknow.....bangalore sure would have goneAnybody going?
F35 is an overweight, under-armed, inefficient plane and only thing stealthy about it is it's price.Not many planes can manoeuvre well at their service ceiling, if they could generate enough lift to turn well and maintain speed and altitude then it wouldn't be their service ceiling now would it? Have you been taking aerodynamics lectures in Pakistan or something?