I'm not making fun of you or the reason you have stated for the apparent blood lust. I have already explained this mindset before and some of our friends think I'm fear mongering and exaggerating. You and i know this is not fear mongering or exaggeration.
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I'm not making fun of you or the reason you have stated for the apparent blood lust. I have already explained this mindset before and some of our friends think I'm fear mongering and exaggerating. You and i know this is not fear mongering or exaggeration.
Pls refer to #910 , specifically #914 & read #937 which you've quoted after you've read #914. If there's going to be mobilization by one community, you'd be damned if you don't see counter mobilization too.
And where will this country end up if communities end up carrying out warlike mobilization against one another. Those seeking power will profit from this divide, how will ordinary citizens benefit from this kind warmongering and bloodletting.
Except that there's absolutely nothing polarizing about the CAA unless you think it is. In which case you stand open to the charge of Hinduohobia for denying persecuted Hindus a chance to be fast tracked for citizenship in India.
I see as many other members have before me your habit of selectively quoting facts that fit right into your narrative. For this one video which you've posted, there are plenty of videos out here & in the SM which will prove you wrong & me right about the colour of sloganeering which went on in these protests.
Who was blood thirsty on that day? Was it Hindus who were silent and feared their business being looted and ruined? If you call the people who defend their lives as blood thirsty and forgive agitators who indulge in random looting and destruction, I have nothing but to feel sorry for your upbringing and your education. Please do not feel offended. Just the way right to agitate and oppose is part of our democracy, so is right to life and livelyhood and killing a trespasser is not a crime in our IPC. Moreover helping a civil servent discharge his duty is desired of every law abiding citizen of India. Please read the constitution and the laws within that.
The laws of India provide for death sentence to those who do not confirm to our laws of society for brutal crimes as per our constitution. Killing these rioters is the duty of every citizen of India as per the constitution we gave to ourselves. We wanted a society which has harmony within different sects, forget about religions. What if just one sect tries to destroy this very harmony? Would you call it excess use of force or disharmony within society? The muslims of UP and all over India have just ensured that Yogiji becomes the next HM of India and BJP will return to power in every state they fight elections in.
Ask those who cast the first stone that. And all those who led them blind alley. You can awaken someone who's asleep not some one pretending to be asleep.
Shashi Tharoor (@ShashiTharoor) Tweeted:
No@offence intended. Just making it clear that for most of us this struggle is about India, not about Islam. Or Hinduism. It’s about our constitutional values & founding principles. It’s about defending pluralism. It’s about saving the soul of India. Not one faith vs another. India Resists on Twitter ( )
Indo Islamic Culture (@IndoIslamicPage) Tweeted:
@ShashiTharoor "La ilaha il Allah" may be an Islamic Slogan but ther is nothing anti Indian or anti Hindu (or any other religion) in it.
It simply means "Ther is no one worthy of worship except the God "
In a way it means we must not bow to any other power except the ultimate Supreme God ( )
Indo Islamic Culture (@IndoIslamicPage) Tweeted:
@ShashiTharoor "Allah" is arabic for "the God"
For Islam or any other faith in world ,The ultimate Supreme God is One
Even in basic teaching of Hinduism ,Sikhism and other Indian faith ther is concept of one supreme God
It's the same one God that is referred differently in different religions ( )
ആദി (@asanskari_boy) Tweeted:
@IndoIslamicPage @ShashiTharoor No. There is no basic teaching of one god in Hinduism. ( )
Indo Islamic Culture (@IndoIslamicPage) Tweeted:
@asanskari_boy @ShashiTharoor According to Rigveda 1.164.46,
Indraṃ mitraṃ varuṇamaghnimāhuratho divyaḥ sa suparṇo gharutmān,ekaṃ sad...
They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuṇa, Agni, and he is heavenly nobly-winged Garutmān.
To what is One, sages give many a title — they call it Agni, Yama, Mātariśvan." ( )
Gandharva ഗന്ധർവൻ 
(@Gandharva___) Tweeted:
@IndoIslamicPage @asanskari_boy @ShashiTharoor You have been listening to Jakeer Naik
.NO Rigvedic concept of God is fundamentally different from Islamic one.Rigveda doesn’t distinguish between self (human) and god-self -both are same. In Islam human is literally a slave to his creator Allah,So don’t sell your Sakir naik BS (Gandharva ഗന്ധർവൻ on Twitter)
This is the kind of narrative which even erudite hypocrites like Tharoor find difficult to defend. On odd days he writes about how Bangladeshi illegal Muslim economic migrants are a clear & present danger & how persecuted Hindus from Bangladesh & Pakistan need to get citizenship of India on a priority basis something that MMS also echoed. This was before 2014. On even days he's against the CAA. Ditto for the CPM in WB. The same story with the NPR / NRC. Rinse & repeat.
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No@offence intended. Just making it clear that for most of us this struggle is about India, not about Islam. Or Hinduism. It’s about our constitutional values & founding principles. It’s about defending pluralism. It’s about saving the soul of India. Not one faith vs another. India Resists on Twitter ( )
Indo Islamic Culture (@IndoIslamicPage) Tweeted:
@ShashiTharoor "La ilaha il Allah" may be an Islamic Slogan but ther is nothing anti Indian or anti Hindu (or any other religion) in it.
It simply means "Ther is no one worthy of worship except the God "
In a way it means we must not bow to any other power except the ultimate Supreme God ( )
Indo Islamic Culture (@IndoIslamicPage) Tweeted:
@ShashiTharoor "Allah" is arabic for "the God"
For Islam or any other faith in world ,The ultimate Supreme God is One
Even in basic teaching of Hinduism ,Sikhism and other Indian faith ther is concept of one supreme God
It's the same one God that is referred differently in different religions ( )
ആദി (@asanskari_boy) Tweeted:
@IndoIslamicPage @ShashiTharoor No. There is no basic teaching of one god in Hinduism. ( )
Indo Islamic Culture (@IndoIslamicPage) Tweeted:
@asanskari_boy @ShashiTharoor According to Rigveda 1.164.46,
Indraṃ mitraṃ varuṇamaghnimāhuratho divyaḥ sa suparṇo gharutmān,ekaṃ sad...
They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuṇa, Agni, and he is heavenly nobly-winged Garutmān.
To what is One, sages give many a title — they call it Agni, Yama, Mātariśvan." ( )
Gandharva ഗന്ധർവൻ (@Gandharva___) Tweeted:@IndoIslamicPage @asanskari_boy @ShashiTharoor You have been listening to Jakeer Naik
.NO Rigvedic concept of God is fundamentally different from Islamic one.Rigveda doesn’t distinguish between self (human) and god-self -both are same. In Islam human is literally a slave to his creator Allah,So don’t sell your Sakir naik BS (Gandharva ഗന്ധർവൻ on Twitter)This is the kind of narrative which even erudite hypocrites like Tharoor find difficult to defend. On odd days he writes about how Bangladeshi illegal Muslim economic migrants are a clear & present danger & how persecuted Hindus from Bangladesh & Pakistan need to get citizenship of India on a priority basis something that MMS also echoed. This was before 2014. On even days he's against the CAA. Ditto for the CPM in WB. The same story with the NPR / NRC. Rinse & repeat.
@S. A. T. A
When India is rectifying it what is the problem? We will come to know who is living in country and who is not, there will be some record atleast. There has to be an initiative. And you can't simply give citizenship to those who do not have proper documents. People should be realized they need to have records and not throw documents just like that. Bureaucracy is being tightend, many have been asked to resign and this is going to continue.
Dont put words in my Mouth , i wont tolerate it. You have already labelled some here as mass murderers.
I just said that he won highest votes in human history yet people call him fascist or dictator whereas there's no such proof of him being one
Of course it is the duty of every law abiding citizen to assist the law enforcement, however I'm unable to fathom how carrying truck load of civilians to a strife torn area, armed with illegal weapons( your words) would tantamount to assisting the law. In your part of the world, law means bunch of people mobbing an individual and lynching him to death on whatever trumped up accusation, this much you and i can agree. We both agree this is what you think is right and should happen all across the country and gullible people who are fed this communal blood lust will always keep electing those who thrive in this climate. We both are not contradicting each other here, we are at concurrence.
There are plenty of evidence that colorful sloganeering is not the forte of a partular community and if you believe so, it is your prejudice which is making you think so. I'm not responsible for Hindus for not leaving pakistan or bangaldesh during independence. They chose their fate and in case they want citizenship, we already have well established, non discriminatory process to give them the same. 35 million Indian in assam dont want them to be given Indian citizenship and i seem to concur with their sentiment.
We already have Aadhar card, EIC card and other govt documents, issued after a laborious and humongous expensive process. There is no need for any other proof. If we hink the Aadhar and other govt ID's were not issued after checking proper antecedents, why do you think any other document required to prove citizenship, as per NRC, will be authentic.....
Is your whole argument based on finding few exceptions, extrapolate them and debunk whole exercise?
Are you contending the process or the goal? Are you suggesting we should not establish citizenship or grant citizenship to whoever managed trespassing into India?
RSS Heart
expected, anyone asking counter or logic or fact or exposing lies automatically becomes RSS.From RSS Heart to Nazi (getting promoted?)
Indoctrinated Sanghi baying for blood
in just 3 replies I asked a single evidence I have been promoted to mass murder from Nazi.
Abidance with law includes every mean to uphold law and that includes legal and illegal means to ensure rule of law. Please read our constitution. It states that with every means available, you will uphold the law of land. Every means include illegeal also. Do you know that UP police was fired upon by agitators using illegal and prohibitive weapons?
Yawn, question was simple. Let me ask again-
How is that incident you told because of RSS-BJP is related to any of them, by any stretch, give simple factual answer not nazi, hitler bla bla bla. Simple facts please.
Some individual maybe saint but a rule is for whole country, individual cases can be given relief on case by case basis on merit. Now answer the question, how was this related to BJP-RSS.
You need to then improve your tolerance level. You argued that Modi was popularly and there is no prove of him becoming authoritarian. I have argued that Indira Gandhi was popularly elected and did turn authoritarian and hence we must be aware of strange tryst of our history.
Even a passbook is sufficient to make adhaar card. This is why adhaar is not a valid proof. It's not a national ID card
Shashi Tharoor (@ShashiTharoor) Tweeted:
No@offence intended. Just making it clear that for most of us this struggle is about India, not about Islam. Or Hinduism. It’s about our constitutional values & founding principles. It’s about defending pluralism. It’s about saving the soul of India. Not one faith vs another. India Resists on Twitter ( )
Indo Islamic Culture (@IndoIslamicPage) Tweeted:
@ShashiTharoor "La ilaha il Allah" may be an Islamic Slogan but ther is nothing anti Indian or anti Hindu (or any other religion) in it.
It simply means "Ther is no one worthy of worship except the God "
In a way it means we must not bow to any other power except the ultimate Supreme God ( )
Indo Islamic Culture (@IndoIslamicPage) Tweeted:
@ShashiTharoor "Allah" is arabic for "the God"
For Islam or any other faith in world ,The ultimate Supreme God is One
Even in basic teaching of Hinduism ,Sikhism and other Indian faith ther is concept of one supreme God
It's the same one God that is referred differently in different religions ( )
ആദി (@asanskari_boy) Tweeted:
@IndoIslamicPage @ShashiTharoor No. There is no basic teaching of one god in Hinduism. ( )
Indo Islamic Culture (@IndoIslamicPage) Tweeted:
@asanskari_boy @ShashiTharoor According to Rigveda 1.164.46,
Indraṃ mitraṃ varuṇamaghnimāhuratho divyaḥ sa suparṇo gharutmān,ekaṃ sad...
They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuṇa, Agni, and he is heavenly nobly-winged Garutmān.
To what is One, sages give many a title — they call it Agni, Yama, Mātariśvan." ( )
@IndoIslamicPage @asanskari_boy @ShashiTharoor You have been listening to Jakeer Naik
This is the kind of narrative which even erudite hypocrites like Tharoor find difficult to defend. On odd days he writes about how Bangladeshi illegal Muslim economic migrants are a clear & present danger & how persecuted Hindus from Bangladesh & Pakistan need to get citizenship of India on a priority basis something that MMS also echoed. This was before 2014. On even days he's against the CAA. Ditto for the CPM in WB. The same story with the NPR / NRC. Rinse & repeat.
@S. A. T. A
I can give you racist and casteist slurs from our fellow Hindus against Dalits and ezahavas( from my own nair community). Does that make these slurs are dominant discoures of the Hindus( or Nairs). I don't know what you are trying to prove. Its painful to see your mask come off thus....
Those ppl of a particular hue who indulge in sloganeering which you find particularly objectinable is not part of these protests. However, the more you hear of La ila'ha type slogans along with general arson & other violence directed against one community, the faster you'd see sloganeering that you find troublesome erupt.
You aren't responsible for partition as well nor were the minorities in Pakistan or Bangladesh consulted when it happened. Those who could moved out. Those who didn't will get their case fast tracked under the CAA, an act proposed by everyone from Nehru downwards.
Those 35 million that you talk about have a substantial proportion of Bangladeshi Hindus & Muslims - legal citizens of India & illegal migrants both of whom came across for different reasons, of which the Hindus will in all likelihood be given citizenship under this act - for whom I may add the CAA was facilitated apart from WB when the NRC is concluded there.
Your objection counts for nothing save moving the SC where inevitably the scene of action would shift too.