They will play their "national sport" on yours *censored* too if you/we ever tried to do what those muricans did to those cavemen.
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"no fact-based argument to acquire the F-15EX stands up to even a modest level of scrutiny. Moving forward with this acquisition would be a bad fiscal investment that would hurt the United States’ ability to fight a war with a peer competitor for the foreseeable future."
Expensive F-15EX Does Not Deliver: Congress Should Nix Its Purchase
Earlier this year, the Air Force signed a deal to develop, test, and eventually buy up to 140 fourth-generation Boeing F-15EX fighters. Defense Department and Air Force arguments to acquire the F-15EX have run the gamut from it being cheaper to acquire and operate than the F-35, to the need to...www.heritage.org
Nothing strange for an expert in the USAF to think that the F-15EX can't fight the Chinese. By extension that would include the F-16 and SH.
F15EX or F16may or may not beat Chinese, only time can tell that. But USAF can easily beat PLAAF, even USN can do that with ease.
This is a must read link to understand at a strategic level where the f15EX, the F16viper and the A10 revamp come from.
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazon...ublication/201203_Cancian_FY2021_AirForce.pdf
Conclusion is that USAF is in a very deep crisis and have to choice a strategy it doesn't want.
https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazon...ublication/201203_Cancian_FY2021_AirForce.pdf
Conclusion is that USAF is in a very deep crisis and have to choice a strategy it doesn't want.
I think the US procurement plan is being underestimated.
Take the unknown variables for example, the AF-NGAD and B-21. If you consider 2400+ F-35s along with up to 175 B-21s and anywhere between 500 and 1000 NGADs, we are talking about a very sizable and powerful force.
It's easy to criticise the USAF mainly because they are in a transitioning phase and the full picture is not clear yet. Otoh, for most other air forces, except China, the transition phase is easy to speculate. The USAF force structure is actually the hardest to speculate even though they are quite open about it because the transition of their secret capabilities happens quite quickly since we get to know about it only after it has achieved a certain milestone.
NGAD is currently in the TD phase, as per Roper, which is reliable information. So we may be talking about a 2024-25 test flight for a prototype, and a possible IOC induction in its 5-7th year. So that's anywhere between 2029 and 2032. And the B-21 may end up flying next year with introduction 3 years later.
People unfortunately look at their helplessness today and think it's going to persist. Most of their 4th gen jets will only last until the end of the transition period after all. Like 300 F-16s will exit before 2050 and the only jets left by then would be 50-150 F-15EX. That's only 400+ 4th gen jets after 2035.
We will never see 2400 x F35 in the US arsenal ! Never. first cut is already on the agenda. And F16 NG and F15 NG are coming.
175 x B21 ? they were unable to finance more than 21 B2, how do you think they will have the money for 175 costlier B21? (because it will not be affordable).
The USA air fleets are diminuishing, as in all the west country. Just because the unit price of the birds are becoming higher and higher (and more and more potent also)
a transiting phase since more than 20 years. 2 years is a transition. 20 years is a crisis.
Except USN with SH18, all the other services are in a deep crisis.
I don't think it's going to be as big a problem as estimated. It's because the US is still a growing economy with a growing population. It's not the same case as it's for the Europeans where pop growth has stopped. The US is expected to add another 50-100 million people over the next 20 years.
Rather I don't think there's a future for the F-16NG and F-15NG. The F-16V is merely an upgrade program, they plan to bring 300 F-16s up to B70 level. But they are unlikely to buy brand new jets. Then there's the F-15EX, where the USAF has only bought 12 jets, and plan to buy 2 squadrons before going for a full 5 squadrons. Nevertheless, even with all 144 jets, it's just 20-25 jets a year between 2023 and 2028. So the only new aircraft coming in will be the F-35s.
I do not know if the US will buy all 2400+ F-35s, but what I can tell for sure is at least this decade the only new jet they will buy is the F-35. And even a reduced 150 a year until 2030 is practically guaranteed, this year it's 141 a year. That's at least 1500 jets. If you recall the F-35 is expected to peak at 250+ jets a year from 2027 onwards. After 2030, both the NGADs will come in, and I have no idea what that future will be like. If the F-35s end at 1500-2000, then the remaining 400-900 will have to be compensated by the two NGADs. Either way a massive F-35 fleet is practically guaranteed before 2030.
As for the B-21, I think they are very serious about this program. As far as I understand, it's their first priority, then comes the fighter jets, so I don't think they are going to mess up this project.
USAF to Retire B-1, B-2 in Early 2030s as B-21 Comes On-Line | Air & Space Forces Magazine
The new B-21 must replace—and not be additive to—much of the existing bomber fleet. |
www.airforcemag.com
The B-2 and B-1 being the first to go in a very short time will drastically reduce the costs needed to maintain such a large fleet. Considering the USAF once used to operate over 1500 bombers, getting to 175 is not going to be difficult for them.
The American 2020 federal budget was $4.8T.
with more and more social treatment needed, more health care, less low end jobs.... More people doesn't automaticaly imply more money for defense, but more money for social needs.
I doubt that's going to be a major issue to the US considering migrants cannot easily enter the welfare loop until they become premanent residents.
Plus as other economies grow, the massive market for the USD will keep growing.
So at least until all countries get rich and global population growth begins to stall, the US can keep their party going.
Yes, but for the moment the 600 F-35s they have produced have no military use.
Pretty much. But then that would give future F-35 deliveries greater importance.
Anyway the US has no other alternative to the F-35. Even with all its problems it's still superior to the Teens, so there's no way they are going back to them. We know for a fact that even the F-15EX is being forced upon the USAF. And any potential replacement won't be available until 2040 even if they begin one today. So demon or lemon, the F-35s will still come in regardless.
By 2024, the plan is to make 180 a year. By 2027, it's expected to peak to 250. By 2032 or so, by the time NGADs begin series deliveries, most of the F-35s will be inducted. IIRC, the F-35 production is supposed to fall down to 50 or below by 2037, when all the US deliveries are complete. So we may be talking about just 300-400 jets pending deliveries after 2032 out of the total 2400+.
This target will never be reached. The planes suffers from far too flaws.
Once they solved one problem, another is unveilled. It may be end less.
PREMIUM: Egypt solves its SCALP problem
An issue around selling a missile with US components seems to have been solved — either the US relented or MBDA was able to source an alternative.Following a lengthy controversy, Dassault Rafale aircraft operated by the Egyptian Air Force (EAF) appear to have finally been armed with the MBDA SCALP long-range stand-off attack missile.
The EAF fleet includes 24 Rafales, the last of which arrived in July 2019, and Egypt was in advanced negotiations to purchase ...
From a retire F-15 pilot :
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The F-15EX naysayers often contend that even the most advanced fourth-generation fighters won’t be able to operate in future contested environments, that they are “incapable of participating against peer threats” — some have even gone as far as calling the idea of buying the F-15EX a moral issue. A think tank analysis best summarizes this camp’s flawed logic: “It is hard to imagine any high-end scenario where [these] fighters will be able to operate.”
Recall that strategic competition is largely about generating disruption. Broadly speaking, disruption typically happens in two ways. At one end is innovation, which military leadership has been endlessly calling for. This is reflected in the surge of research and development funding to explore promising new technology that takes many years to mature and manifest (if ever). At the other end is adaption, where users of equipment find new ways to use combinations of what is available. Where the former is slow, bureaucratic, and well-funded, the latter is exactly the opposite.
Adaption, not innovation, is the compelling variable in rapidly linking emergent strategies with deliberate strategies in strategic competition. Operators live in a world where the hope of innovation is not an option — we go to war with what we have. We adapt by embracing industriousness, ingenuity, and creativity to generate advantages on the battlefield and in the sky — we call this being tactical. Applying this mentality strategically would get the Air Force off the beaten path to find more rapid and disruptive ways to economically compete. Stop thinking about the F-15EX as a fighter and start viewing it as an adaptable platform."
F-15EX: The Strategic Blind Spot in the Air Force’s Fighter Debate
The fallout from the U.S. Air Force’s request to buy F-15EX fighter jets to replace the aging F-15C/D Eagle has certainly been entertaining. Largely
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