MMRCA 2.0 - Updates and Discussions
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AIM 120 C7 (and D) is outdated as compared to meteor. not to talk about sidewinder vs mica (i'll write very soon with first hands infos about mica ng, makes sidewinder lokks like a 12.7 bullet)
Look, Gripen is a plane i do like, but too small and short legged for India ( for point defense you have LCA)
It's not short legged for the role it is required in, but this is entirely different from Rafale's requirement anyway. MWF replaces Gripen E.
Meteor + ASRAAM is already an unmatched combo.
Considering the time it takes to get a tender done, Mk1A would have already been inducted and MWF would be at least half finished if not more.
To put things in perspective, the govt doesn't expect the first squadron of the MMRCA winner to be inducted before 2028, considering the contract is signed in 2023. So, by then you can expect the MWF to have started induction.
Also, the MWF's avionics are set to be more capable than Gripen E. If Gripen is required to match the MWF, then we have to pay for it, like the new GaN radar.
It won IAF's CCM tender for the Jaguar. That's also why the IAF has chosen ASRAAM to equip the MKI. After Python V failed integration studies, IAF has decided to go for ASRAAM for LCA also.
@vstol Jockey has also sung praises of the ASRAAM.
ASRAAM has a bigger motor as a result it has very fast accelaration. This extends its NEZ compared to other missiles. Plus this faster accelaration is also useful in engaging targets above the level of the firing platform. ASRAAM is a deadly missile for WVR but MICA is BVR+ range weapon and MICANG will be truly BVRAAM.
I still don't think it is coming. This article is hog wash.
Just another silly "F-16 is COMING!!!" article.
Plenty of those over the years. LM's marketing department is obviously richer than their competitors.
Dassault Aviation likely to start making Rafale parts in India this year for global clients
Dassault Aviation, the manufacturer of Rafale, is said to have already carried out a test production of certain parts that could be manufactured in India.
SNEHESH ALEX PHILIP Updated: 11 June, 2019 9:31 am IST
A Rafale fighter jet, manufactured by Dassault Aviation SA | Jason Alden | Bloomberg
New Delhi: French defence major Dassault Aviation is likely to start manufacturing parts of the Rafale fighter jets at its India facility this year, with the wares destined for global customers, ThePrint has learnt.
The Indian facility, a joint venture with Anil Ambani’s Reliance Defence, is located in Nagpur.
According to industry sources, the French firm has already carried out a test production of certain parts that could be manufactured here. A formal announcement to this effect, they said, could come in September, when the first of the 36 Rafale ordered by the Indian Air Force are handed over in France.
The Nagpur facility of Dassault Reliance Aerospace Limited (DRAL) is currently making cockpits for the French manufacturer’s Falcon business jets, besides other parts. It is being used as a “test bed” for the possible manufacturing of fighter jet parts.
The industry sources told ThePrint that the plan was to start with smaller parts like the undercarriage door, before going on to bigger ones
A ‘u-turn’
Reports of the Nagpur facility churning out fighter jet parts come months after Dassault Aviation CEO Eric Trappier said the company had no plans to manufacture Rafale parts in the country if India capped its order at 36 jets.
When the first Falcon 2000 cockpit front section manufactured at Nagpur was ready to be handed over to Dassault this February, the company said the “achievement illustrates Dassault Aviation’s determination to build up an Indian aerospace manufacturing eco-system, matching the highest standards in this field and positioning India as an international reference in the global aerospace market”.
Dassault and Reliance announced their joint venture and the creation of DRAL on 3 October 2016, barely two weeks after India signed a 7.878 billion-euro deal for 36 Rafale jets in a flyaway condition. The joint venture plans to recruit and train 650 employees by 2022, with the eventual aim being the rollout of a complete Falcon from Nagpur.
The DRAL facility was inaugurated in October 2017, in the presence of both Trappier and Ambani.
The joint venture has been in the eye of a storm over the opposition’s allegations that the Narendra Modi government had shown undue favour to get Dassault Aviation to pick Reliance Defence as an offsets partner. The government was given a clean chit on the deal by the Supreme Court in December last year, but the top court is currently hearing a review petition against the order.
Dassault Aviation likely to start making Rafale parts in India this year for global clients
Dassault Aviation, the manufacturer of Rafale, is said to have already carried out a test production of certain parts that could be manufactured in India.
SNEHESH ALEX PHILIP Updated: 11 June, 2019 9:31 am IST
A Rafale fighter jet, manufactured by Dassault Aviation SA | Jason Alden | Bloomberg
New Delhi: French defence major Dassault Aviation is likely to start manufacturing parts of the Rafale fighter jets at its India facility this year, with the wares destined for global customers, ThePrint has learnt.
The Indian facility, a joint venture with Anil Ambani’s Reliance Defence, is located in Nagpur.
According to industry sources, the French firm has already carried out a test production of certain parts that could be manufactured here. A formal announcement to this effect, they said, could come in September, when the first of the 36 Rafale ordered by the Indian Air Force are handed over in France.
The Nagpur facility of Dassault Reliance Aerospace Limited (DRAL) is currently making cockpits for the French manufacturer’s Falcon business jets, besides other parts. It is being used as a “test bed” for the possible manufacturing of fighter jet parts.
The industry sources told ThePrint that the plan was to start with smaller parts like the undercarriage door, before going on to bigger ones
A ‘u-turn’
Reports of the Nagpur facility churning out fighter jet parts come months after Dassault Aviation CEO Eric Trappier said the company had no plans to manufacture Rafale parts in the country if India capped its order at 36 jets.
When the first Falcon 2000 cockpit front section manufactured at Nagpur was ready to be handed over to Dassault this February, the company said the “achievement illustrates Dassault Aviation’s determination to build up an Indian aerospace manufacturing eco-system, matching the highest standards in this field and positioning India as an international reference in the global aerospace market”.
Dassault and Reliance announced their joint venture and the creation of DRAL on 3 October 2016, barely two weeks after India signed a 7.878 billion-euro deal for 36 Rafale jets in a flyaway condition. The joint venture plans to recruit and train 650 employees by 2022, with the eventual aim being the rollout of a complete Falcon from Nagpur.
The DRAL facility was inaugurated in October 2017, in the presence of both Trappier and Ambani.
The joint venture has been in the eye of a storm over the opposition’s allegations that the Narendra Modi government had shown undue favour to get Dassault Aviation to pick Reliance Defence as an offsets partner. The government was given a clean chit on the deal by the Supreme Court in December last year, but the top court is currently hearing a review petition against the order.
Dassault Aviation likely to start making Rafale parts in India this year for global clients
Dunno for India, but Gripen was just sacked from swiss competititon due to lack of maturity of several subsystems.
It will never be the case for India..
We will delay so much, it will become outdated or production will get stopped..
Eg : Mirage 2000, C17 globe master..
Who is the Gripen customer using Python AAM ? same for Spear, Brimstone? JDAM? I doubt these weapons are really integrated.
It's the LM technique : on a powerpoint all is so easy....
It is said in France that MICA NG will have a 30% greater range. (range or NEZ ???)
its been said on a US journal. When i asked the program head he was much more evasive, because range is a very relative thing according to engageent conditions. How ever, NEZ will be very largely enhanced
PS Modi is special guest for G7 in Paris in august