What? It will i beleive. Our next AC definitely gonna becom a flat top. Its illogical to design TEDBF compatible with flat tops.
A bit off topic. I watched topgun-2 yesterday. Lots and lots of VFX and though it is fun to watch but it is also hilarious at places. Like SA-3s being spoofed by IR flares. Wrong selection of pull up attack when a better escape route was available and finally Stealing an F-14 from Iran and the two SU-57s pilots not even aware that an F-14 has been stolen from a base which got attacked and was teaming with 100s of soldiers.We have Vijay & his beast movie instead of Tom & Topgun.
The best visual effect is the Su-57 dodging an incoming missile. That was VFX but the manoever was done superbly.
Vikram has been built to last 30 years, but it can be pushed to another 7 years or so at least. So that's anytime around 2050. Vikrant can go up to early 2070s at best.
Vikram will be replaced by IAC-3. Whether it will be a sister ship to IAC-2, or a bigger nuke ship, that's for time to tell.
Otoh, CSL claims Vikrant's sister ship can be built in 5 years.
That's the idea. 1 ship leaves to sea, 1 ship returns home, 1 ship under refit. This will give us 24/7 carrier presence during peacetime. And during crisis times, we will have two ships ready for operations at almost any given time.
There is no point in doing that. ADA will work on a new CATOBAR design after TEDBF is done.
We have Vijay & his beast movie instead of Tom & Topgun.
I liked that movie.
It s a comedy movie..
Excepting Vijay whose role was serious.
Please dont look for logic in movies.
Especially tamil / telugu movies.
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I would have chose Tedbf, had it been in Amca stage at the least.
Considering the treatment Lca Mk2 gets, it is too far to even imagine when it ll fruitfy.
They will be delivered. Along with JASSM-ER and JSM we will be able to power project far easily than before. I just hope they upgrade the mig 29k's with uttam and other indian avionics and have some sort of integration between the Super-hornets and mig 29k's.
Nah in pure a2a the Rafale will win. But in a2g/s the superhornet has far more choices.
Dassault Rafale N
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In the summer of 1999, the French Navy considered a two-seat version of its Rafale, the Rafale BM (for Biplace Marine). Indeed, the Kosovo campaign, for example, had just demonstrated that the workload was increasing and that it was necessary to have a second crew member to put the weaponry into action. It is for this very reason that the number of Rafale Bs has increased in the air force.
At the time, the target was still 60 Rafales for the French Navy, and the General Staff envisaged 25 two-seaters and 35 single-seaters, then finally 40 two-seaters and 20 single-seaters in October 2000. The first Rafale BM should then have been the M15.
This two-seater would have had its cockpit and canopy enlarged, but would have had the gun removed (which had not been done for the Rafale B) and the fuel capacity reduced by 215 kg in order to keep the same catapult weight. Finally, the rear cockpit of the single-seater would have had to be moved.
The Rafale BM became the Rafale N a few months later, and its maiden flight was scheduled for 2005. But the development of this version will cost 270 million €uros. In addition to the technical constraints mentioned above, additional personnel must also be recruited. Faced with dwindling funds, the Navy, which still hopes to have 60 Rafales, decided on 22 September 2004 to cancel the programme. The funds will be allocated to the development of the F3R standard.
Finally, the Rafale pilots of the French Air Force and Navy are trained in the same unit, the Rafale 02-092 "Aquitaine" Transformation Squadron, since October 2010.
The New Brahmos production facility in UP is another political jumla ahead of the state election. NG version is "still" in the design stage, and no services have come forward with full support. They can complete the development with their funds and hope anyone picks it up. Production is still 5+ years out.Even the production facility has practically been built. It's been 5 months since the start of construction.
Rajnath Singh inaugurates Brahmos missile manufacturing unit in Lucknow
Asserts imperative of nuclear deterrent of Indiawww.business-standard.com
Here is the new CEO explaining the same.
Last CEO about service demand : Will be ready with BrahMos-NG when IAF demands it: Dr S K Mishra
Lancement des travaux des futurs missile de croisière et missile anti-navire franco-anglais
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Launch of work on future Franco-British cruise and anti-ship missiles
France and the United Kingdom yesterday signed an agreement with MBDA to launch work on the future anti-ship missile (FMAN) and the future cruise missile (FMC).
Two new missiles for France and the UK
On 2 November 2010, France and the United Kingdom signed the Lancaster House agreements. These agreements cover many points, including a bi-national willingness to reduce the costs (around 30%) of development and investment in the missile sector. The joint missile project was officially launched in March 2017 with the signing of a bi-national agreement between Harriett Baldwin (Defence Procurement) and Laurent Collet-Billon (Directorate General for Armaments). This agreement, budgeted at €100 million (shared equally between the two countries), allows the launch of a three-year study to develop an anti-ship missile (Future Anti-Ship Missile, FMAN) and a cruise missile (Future Cruise Missile, FMC).
These two missiles are to replace several missiles currently in service:
However, while the UK and France are in the midst of a crisis over the cancellation of the Australian submarine contract, the FMAN/FMC project appears to be affected, with France deciding to cancel a major meeting scheduled for September 2021 in retaliation.
However, relations appear to be back on track. Yesterday's signing of the agreement between the UK, France and MBDA will allow MBDA to begin work on the preparations for the two future missiles.
In 2018, a bi-national parliamentary report (available at the end of this article) demonstrated the need for France and the UK to be able to respond to the proliferation of denial of access and area denial (A2/AD) equipment: since the end of the Cold War, technological advances had allowed some freedom of movement for Western forces. The situation changed in the mid-2010s as technological progress was reduced by R&D and investment on the Russian and Chinese sides. A very concrete example of the proliferation of A2/AD systems is found in the S-300 and S-400, which are directly mentioned in the report.
The report also states that the changing environment does not yet prevent France and the United Kingdom from destroying well-protected targets, but they must do so if they are able to fire at very close range (thanks to the recent French Barracuda submarines), act by surprise or saturate enemy defences. However, by 2030, the report estimates that the SCALP, Harpoon and Exocet missiles will be totally obsolete in the face of systems currently being developed in China and Russia. They will therefore have to be replaced by FMAN and FMC by that time.
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Launch of work on future Franco-British cruise and anti-ship missiles
France and the United Kingdom yesterday signed an agreement with MBDA to launch work on the future anti-ship missile (FMAN) and the future cruise missile (FMC).
Two new missiles for France and the UK
On 2 November 2010, France and the United Kingdom signed the Lancaster House agreements. These agreements cover many points, including a bi-national willingness to reduce the costs (around 30%) of development and investment in the missile sector. The joint missile project was officially launched in March 2017 with the signing of a bi-national agreement between Harriett Baldwin (Defence Procurement) and Laurent Collet-Billon (Directorate General for Armaments). This agreement, budgeted at €100 million (shared equally between the two countries), allows the launch of a three-year study to develop an anti-ship missile (Future Anti-Ship Missile, FMAN) and a cruise missile (Future Cruise Missile, FMC).
These two missiles are to replace several missiles currently in service:
- the Exocet anti-ship missile in France
- the Harpoon anti-ship missile in the UK,
- the SCALP EG/Storm Shadow cruise missile in France and the UK.
FMAN (left) and FMC (right). MBDA UK
In recent years, Franco-British cooperation has suffered many setbacks. These include the development of two competing sixth generation fighter aircraft and the Brexit crisis. However, despite these various crises, the will of both countries to develop these two missiles together has remained intact. However, while the UK and France are in the midst of a crisis over the cancellation of the Australian submarine contract, the FMAN/FMC project appears to be affected, with France deciding to cancel a major meeting scheduled for September 2021 in retaliation.
However, relations appear to be back on track. Yesterday's signing of the agreement between the UK, France and MBDA will allow MBDA to begin work on the preparations for the two future missiles.
In 2018, a bi-national parliamentary report (available at the end of this article) demonstrated the need for France and the UK to be able to respond to the proliferation of denial of access and area denial (A2/AD) equipment: since the end of the Cold War, technological advances had allowed some freedom of movement for Western forces. The situation changed in the mid-2010s as technological progress was reduced by R&D and investment on the Russian and Chinese sides. A very concrete example of the proliferation of A2/AD systems is found in the S-300 and S-400, which are directly mentioned in the report.
The report also states that the changing environment does not yet prevent France and the United Kingdom from destroying well-protected targets, but they must do so if they are able to fire at very close range (thanks to the recent French Barracuda submarines), act by surprise or saturate enemy defences. However, by 2030, the report estimates that the SCALP, Harpoon and Exocet missiles will be totally obsolete in the face of systems currently being developed in China and Russia. They will therefore have to be replaced by FMAN and FMC by that time.
ADA did say it will be next gen. Considering a 2030 program start, it should take until 2045, so that's plenty of time. Enough to become available for IAC-3. It will perhaps replace the MRCBF on IAC-2 after 2050 as well.
I'm not worried about the choices our forces are making, the only problem is time. We are moving too slowly.
Read between the lines. DRDO is basically saying Brahmos NG will be developed and will become available for production as soon as demand is made.
Production won't be that many years away, the missile only needs 2 years of flight testing.
Same as AK203 factory announcement for Amethi,just before the union election. That was in 2019, its 2022 now.
Then why did they even start TEDBF program for such a limited number? A full purchase of 56 FA-18 SH or Rafale M could have been the cheapest option.
For the payload thing, that remains to be seen. It has a heavier empty weight (by nearly four tons), and it is designed to operate from aircraft carriers with a longer catapult.
The Rafale has much more lift than the F-18 SH and will be able to carry a ton more from a sky jump.
The networking with the Americans is a false problem because in reality we always replace the communications of an aircraft sold for export with those requested by the customer, and the connection to the American systems is more of an authorisation problem than a technical problem.
National pride comes into this. The Rafale is your baby now. I still think the Rafale makes more sense. The super hornet also has better radar and missiles available, Though the Meteor is good
How are two air wings limited? That's 80-100 aircraft. It's a progam that's leaching from LCA Mk2 and AMCA Mk1 anyway.
IN's goal is to operate 200 fighters. 150+ were expected to be operational or at least contracted by 2020. That's 45 Mig-29s, 45 N-LCAs and 70 MRCBF, with MRCBF ultimately replacing the Mig-29s. And with the need for 6 carriers in the long term, the ultimate plan was to manufacture many squadrons of the MRCBF and its successor.
All that's been scrapped for an indigenous solution. TEDBF replaces the need for 45 Mig-29s and 45 N-LCAs. Even before MRCBF, IN originally planned to operate 90 Mig-29s and 45 N-LCAs, when we planned to operate 2 Vikrant class ships. MRCBF came up because we decided the Mig-29 wasn't good enough. And then the CATOBAR requirement came up because the Americans offered catapult launchers and the C-2/E-2 combo.