Myanmar's military takes power in coup, detains Suu Kyi

[Amir Mahajane]

Hate or not, realpolitik will rule the roost. Survival will become supreme for BD, not ideology.

The thing is most people just care about roti, kapda and makaan. So the more they spend on useless ventures like the military, the less likely they are to retain power.

Furthermore, the Islamists don't trust BD's military. That's the same problem PA is facing in Pakistan. And at the same time they do not want to repeat the mistakes PA did in dealing with the radicals post the Lal Qila incident and the Islamists don't want to make the BD army more powerful than it already is.

Realpolitik comes into play when there are established parties engaged with each other. Like Haseena and Indian govt. Realpolitik doesn't come into play with an interim govt backed by an islamist.

Tell me why hindus were targeted once haseena was out of power ? There is no realpolitik at work here. hindu women getting raped, young women being kidnapped, hindus forced to cut off hindu symbols from their bodies, hindu houses being burnt, jamat - e islami converting hindus. This is no realpolitik. They simply equate hindus with india. They hate India and they hate hindus as kafirs.

They will get less roti, less kapra or less makan, but the BD islamists have the need to be in power. dictating terms to the BD govt. This is South asian islamism, bro. No realpolitik.

I don't know where you got the idea that the islamists don't trust BD' military. Do you know how the coup became successful ? BD military refused to shoot protesters when Sheikh Haseena ordered BD military to shoot at them. Those protesters who were backed by bangladeshi islamist parties. islamists are in hands with BD military here. they don't care about realpolitik.

Pakistan is different from bangladesh. the only thing that connects them is islamism. PA and BD Army are different entities. BD military is going to be in power with the help of islamists in bangladesh. it's the beginning of a new era for india-BD relationship.

More than all that, what we need to do is turn the BD border into a fortress a la Pakistan to stop unchecked migration.

That is the key but the terrain with rivers, riverine and water bodies at the border, the task is humongous.

 

[randomradio]

I have never understood how everything is associated with bringing democracy and nothing to do with national interests of various players whether they be from the East or the West. This happens to be a very naive line of thought. I cannot believe people choose to believe such a narrative. I find it incomprehensible that after Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Syria people still think that democracy will arrive alongside NATO forces.

The Democrats are not democratic. They prefer working with pliable authoritarian states. For example, they want Congres to come to power in India, and then they want Congress to listen to only them, not the Indian people. It's a new system of colonization. Hell, they want to convert the US into a single-party state and remove the border between the US and Europe, while also ending borders within Europe. Screwed up people.

 

[randomradio]

The issues did not have anything to do with the US and the leader stepped down, she was not removed. You just see the US wherever you like with no solid evidence, all it needs is one random assertion and that's evidence enough for you.

Are you talking about Hasina? She left after the military threatened her. They gave her 45 minutes to leave BD.

Evidence?

Ever heard of Aung San Suu Kyi? That ring a bell? If not, start reading.

Glass houses...

Careful, you may get arrested for posting on the Internet in the UK.

 

[randomradio]

LOL...good for you man.

He is one of those people Bezmenov claimed will not see the truth until a soldier's boot is stepping on his face.

 

[randomradio]

Realpolitik comes into play when there are established parties engaged with each other. Like Haseena and Indian govt. Realpolitik doesn't come into play with an interim govt backed by an islamist.

Tell me why hindus were targeted once haseena was out of power ? There is no realpolitik at work here. hindu women getting raped, young women being kidnapped, hindus forced to cut off hindu symbols from their bodies, hindu houses being burnt, jamat - e islami converting hindus. This is no realpolitik. They simply equate hindus with india. They hate India and they hate hindus as kafirs.

They will get less roti, less kapra or less makan, but the BD islamists have the need to be in power. dictating terms to the BD govt. This is South asian islamism, bro. No realpolitik.

I don't know where you got the idea that the islamists don't trust BD' military. Do you know how the coup became successful ? BD military refused to shoot protesters when Sheikh Haseena ordered BD military to shoot at them. Those protesters who were backed by bangladeshi islamist parties. islamists are in hands with BD military here. they don't care about realpolitik.

Realpolitik will kick in once they realize their own actions on Hindus will happen to them in the hands of the Indian military.

The BD military is a mix of pro-Hasina and anti-Hasina forces. And they are definitely anti-Sharia. So they are not Islamists. If the Islamists start pushing their agenda on the army, they will get taken out too. The same kinda flip-flops we have seen in Pakistan.

Pakistan is different from bangladesh. the only thing that connects them is islamism. PA and BD Army are different entities. BD military is going to be in power with the help of islamists in bangladesh. it's the beginning of a new era for india-BD relationship.

The military on both sides are the same. Just greedy "moderates" that want to rule their business empires in peace while keeping Islamism at bay.

These coups are actually pretty normal for BD army too. They have merely chosen to not take power for themselves 'cause they can't handle the rammifications.

In any case, let's not forget that Deobandis aren't the only Islamists in BD. There are rival groups too, like Shias and Barelvis, not just Hindus and Christians. So any attempt at Islamism will push these two major groups into a serious rivalry.

That is the key but the terrain with rivers, riverine and water bodies at the border, the task is humongous.

We are in the process of doing it.

Progress slow, MHA unlikely to finish fencing India-Bangladesh border by March 2024 deadline

There was 915.35 km of border remaining to be fenced from this January. ThePrint analysis shows that with just 35km fenced last year, meeting target seems to be an uphill task.

theprint.in

According to the ministry’s latest annual report (2022-23), MHA’s Border Management I-Division had fenced 3,180.65 km of the border, while 915.35 km remained to be completed by March 2024.

They will expedite this now.

We are planning the same with Myanmar.

 

[BMD]

Are you talking about Hasina? She left after the military threatened her. They gave her 45 minutes to leave BD.

Sure. Her actions had made her continuation impossible so she left after she killed protestors.

Ever heard of Aung San Suu Kyi? That ring a bell? If not, start reading.

Yeah, I was talking about Bangladesh for some reason.

Careful, you may get arrested for posting on the Internet in the UK.

Go for it. All I said was 'glass houses', you made the sh!thole comment.

 

[Shan]

He is one of those people Bezmenov claimed will not see the truth until a soldier's boot is stepping on his face.

He has a certain belief system that has ossified over time. This happens to many. It will tint everything that he sees and there will be groups that agree and those that don't. Just leave him be.

 

[randomradio]

He has a certain belief system that has ossified over time. This happens to many. It will tint everything that he sees and there will be groups that agree and those that don't. Just leave him be.

This is what's happened to him.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1834014385964011900

 

[Ginvincible]

A bloody siege ends Myanmar army control of western border

Insurgents seized Myanmar's border with Bangladesh in one of the bloodiest battles of the civil war.

www.bbc.com

 

[randomradio]

Some significant changes happening in Myanmar for India. The Arakan Army, an enemy of India, as of this year has decided to support India. They have taken away the military's control of their border with Bangladesh and are willing to support India's project to link up WB with NE India through the Kaladan Project via Sittwe. The military still control Sittwe. It's a difficult balancing act, but both sides need India's support.

It's pretty good news if both sides are willing to work with us to keep the project alive. I guess they both hate the US and BD that much. Of course both sides hate the Rohingyas, so more refugees for Yunus. The Rohingyas made it worse for themselves fighting the Arakan Army.

If the Arakan Army hold on to that border, we could get reliable access to the NE bypassing BD. For now they control most of Rakhine State. And if they take back Sittwe and a few other towns, they get full control, allowing them to push for statehood or at least some level of autonomy.

What's interesting is both the Junta and AA want St. Martin's Island, which is a serious threat to India if it's handed over to the US.

 

[jetray]

Some significant changes happening in Myanmar for India. The Arakan Army, an enemy of India, as of this year has decided to support India. They have taken away the military's control of their border with Bangladesh and are willing to support India's project to link up WB with NE India through the Kaladan Project via Sittwe. The military still control Sittwe. It's a difficult balancing act, but both sides need India's support.

It's pretty good news if both sides are willing to work with us to keep the project alive. I guess they both hate the US and BD that much. Of course both sides hate the Rohingyas, so more refugees for Yunus. The Rohingyas made it worse for themselves fighting the Arakan Army.

If the Arakan Army hold on to that border, we could get reliable access to the NE bypassing BD. For now they control most of Rakhine State. And if they take back Sittwe and a few other towns, they get full control, allowing them to push for statehood or at least some level of autonomy.

What's interesting is both the Junta and AA want St. Martin's Island, which is a serious threat to India if it's handed over to the US.

India has lot more ground to cover. Dont think AA will believe our overtures.

How India Betrayed the Rakhine People – And Why It Matters Today

25 years ago this week, India’s army crushed an incipient Rakhine separatist force in the Andaman Islands. In western Myanmar, memories of the incident linger.

thediplomat.com

 

[randomradio]

India has lot more ground to cover. Dont think AA will believe our overtures.

How India Betrayed the Rakhine People – And Why It Matters Today

25 years ago this week, India’s army crushed an incipient Rakhine separatist force in the Andaman Islands. In western Myanmar, memories of the incident linger.

thediplomat.com

Yeah. This is what made us enemies. But at the same time, both AA and India need each other. AA needs financial assistance and legitimacy. Plus they do not want another more powerful enemy right in their backyard. For example, if they cannot handle AA themselves then what's stopping the Junta from inviting the Indian Army itself into Rakhine? And we want our link to the NE before a new separatist movement gains momentum. So realpolitik is bound to take ground.

AA is stressing out BD too.