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is that level of signal intelligence even possible?

Short answer: yes, it's not dramatized.

Long answer: Pine Gap is one of the most significant intelligence assets anywhere and for anyone with the capability to hoover up practically every phone conversation, monitor missile tests including telemetry data, heat emissions, location, payload composition and source, gather electronic emissions from electronic warfare assets and radars, intercept satellite transmission, and participate in other activities including code breaking, key logging and other "hacking" methods that are typically the purview of the United States National Security Agency. Pine Gap is jointly run by the CIA, NSA and NRO and likely has NGO personnel as well.

An analogous facility would be the Norwegian Intelligence Service's Stations Ringerike, Barhaug Fauske and Stor (shown in that order), which gathers submarine communications, missile telemetry, radar and radio intercepts and tracks Russian and foreign movements in the North Atlantic and Arctic, among a few other capabilities.

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The level of information gathered by these facilities is astounding.
 
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Short answer: yes, it's not dramatized.

Long answer: Pine Gap is one of the most significant intelligence assets anywhere and for anyone with the capability to hoover up practically every phone conversation, monitor missile tests including telemetry data, heat emissions, location, payload composition and source, gather electronic emissions from electronic warfare assets and radars, intercept satellite transmission, and participate in other activities including code breaking, key logging and other "hacking" methods that are typically the purview of the United States National Security Agency. Pine Gap is jointly run by the CIA, NSA and NRO and likely has NGO personnel as well.

An analogous facility would be the Norwegian Intelligence Service's Stations Ringerike, Barhaug Fauske and Stor (shown in that order), which gathers submarine communications, missile telemetry, radar and radio intercepts and tracks Russian and foreign movements in the North Atlantic and Arctic, among a few other capabilities.

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The level of information gathered by these facilities is astounding.
Is it possible to hack the video signal of a random missile launched by a random country?
 
I do not know why, I find this movie trailer cringe worthy. Even though I am a cold war movie buff. And in general military movie buff.
It takes are similar to a high bugeted hollywood movie. if not for anything else i would watch it for the screen play atleast if it releases in the US
 
Is it possible to hack the video signal of a random missile launched by a random country?

Forward: I'm not an electronic-warfare specialist or expert, so some of what I'm about to write might be wrong. Most of what I know about electronic-warfare comes from picking the brain of those more knowledgeable then me.

The answer is that it depends on how closed the system is. For a self-contained missile system like the Russian Tor there's limited opportunity for hacking because all the elements needed for the system to function are localized and have limited communication. There's still an opportunity to gather signals intelligence from the radar (pulse rate, range, frequency) and missile seeker and performance, but unless the Tor missile launcher talks to supporting elements (radio communications, sharing radar data) there's potential to influence the system via electronic interference, jamming, spoofing or decoys, but not via hacking because the system is self-contained and access points into its critical nodes (fire control, radio, radar) are limited. It's only when you introduce outside channels that vulnerabilities appear, such as radio communications with supporting elements which open up a pathway into an otherwise closed system.

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On the flipside missile systems like DF-21D (or S-400) are very open. The launcher needs to talk with command and control and the missile itself, it needs to communicate with satellites and supporting radars, and this is the case largely throughout its flight. Because of the large amount of data being shared in a DF-21D system, avenues for conducting offensive electronic warfare beyond jamming or spoofing exist, such as Israel is reported to have done with Syria air defences either turning them off or blinding them internally.

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The more a system communicates, the more vulnerable it is to outside interference. It's also possible to influence supporting elements and have them negatively effect the primary target. This was seen during China's campaign against the F-35 program where they targeted support contractors who had access to the main program. It's also seen during Russia's campaign against the American NSA where, again, support contractors were targeted for information and vulnerabilities rather then directly breaching the more fortified and closed-off NSA. The end result in both cases where massive data breeches without the primary target being effected by them.

That's not to say that's the only route you can take against a self-contained system though. Some militaries have direct-action cyber warfare specialist who employ taps, bugs and other hacking tools against infrastructure that communicates with an enclosed system or against the enclosed system itself. Norway for instance employs some 3000 cyber warfare specialists and a dedicated few are part of a direct action team known as the Communication and Information Systems Task Group. There responsibility is to deploy behind enemy lines and either disrupt or breech and monitor/control enemy communications, tracking and support systems using hacking, taps and bugs or kinetic means.

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If Pakistani or Chinese missile launchers need to communicate with other assets, they can be effected by electronic warfare methods.
 
can Muttiah Muralidharan be proped Up for Sri Lanka PM/ president post ?

He is Tamilian & patriotic srilankan , I guess he can bring harmony & prosperity .
 
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How do you guys like my signature? Since India has been able to "buy" Nawaz Sharif and PML-N, PPP and all the politician as claimed by Pakistani members, and they have also concluded TLP is our brainchild along with BLA, TTP and affiliates with some of who, even IK shared dais, one can conclude that we have penetrated all levels of Pakistani society. On top of it, I got thinking to the undermentioned facts:

1. In 1965 and in 1971, both the times, we lost Chamb. And PA was on a roll and had the clear upper hand and initiative. What stopped them from achieving their objectives both the times? It was not as if the momentum of attack was not there.

2. Their Op Gibraltar. Who plans a special forces operations without updated maps? That too an operation which was clearly create a situation wherein the enemy will retaliate in overwhelming manner? Never heard of any such case. Have you guys? And all surrendered!

3. Which AF in the world refuses to take part in an action wherein the nation is at war citing lack of spares etc etc? (PAF in 1999)


It was never what has been attributed to NSA of fighting till last Afghani. It was always about last Pakistani. See where their economy is. Happily they are handing over their nation to China (and Saudis as also UAE)!!!!

We have never agreed to talks, kept up the military pressure and built bridges with Saudis and UAE much before the present round of hostilities. Princess Latifa was a coup. And the two nations are now 'helping' Pakistan with their funding!

Bloody brilliant piece of statecraft if I read the situation correctly.
What you looking at is a whole nation clinically infused with narcissistic personality disorder systematically over the decades to suit the survival of their elites
 
That too an operation which was clearly create a situation wherein the enemy will retaliate in overwhelming manner?

History is repeating itself with tactical nukes.

3. Which AF in the world refuses to take part in an action wherein the nation is at war citing lack of spares etc etc? (PAF in 1999)

IIRC, the PAF sat out of quite a bit of the '71 war as well.

Happily they are handing over their nation to China (and Saudis as also UAE)!!!!

On a silver platter. And mighty proud of it too.

I really hope the deal with the IMF doesn't work out this year.

And the two nations are now 'helping' Pakistan with their funding!

Bloody brilliant piece of statecraft if I read the situation correctly.

They are the only ones around with nukes in the Muslim world and are Sunni dominant, counts for something.
 
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I take leave of this forum permanently. Thanks for affording me the opportunity to spread my non-sense with utmost patience and tolerance.

Regards & best wishes to all.
 
Guys

I take leave of this forum permanently. Thanks for affording me the opportunity to spread my non-sense with utmost patience and tolerance.

Regards & best wishes to all.


History is repeating itself with tactical nukes.



IIRC, the PAF sat out of quite a bit of the '71 war as well.



On a silver platter. And mighty proud of it too.

I really hope the deal with the IMF doesn't work out this year.



They are the only ones around with nukes in the Muslim world and are Sunni dominant, counts for something.
How come #1415 dated27/12/2018 succeeds #1414 dated 5/01/2019?

Why has @Hellfire quit? Where is @Aashish?