Off-Topic Chit-Chat

  1. Expected to finalise soon is the technical assistance in LCA Mk1A (to be inducted in sufficiently large order) project by DA and agreement of AMCA assistance by DA between GOI and French government bodies during Prez Macron Visit.
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Safran Kaveri

For a half life of present M88 and moving towards 1/3rd of the life, the net trade off resulting from stable thrust at all different zones is mind boggling.

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Confirm stability now above 100Kn and another 1XXKn plus. Officially may be advertised a little lower specs (residual military specs only to the user)

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It's much beyond the so called public 13 Indian specific enhancements

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LCA MK2 work will commence only after future maturity of MK1A.

If I understand clearly we will need few things from a plane which will be out in 2024-25 time. A version under development.
That goes into MK2 and is critical in nature.

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  1. There are almost 150+ improvements planned from LCA Mk1 to LCA MK1A. (more than what is being said in public)
  2. Few include air intake, aerodynamic shaping, subsystem structure, performance, and size. This is as of now very wide and will be shortlisted further to trim it down with most parts planned initially from F-16 and Rafale. With no clarity for F-16, the chance of Rafale parts inside has increased a lot more. The performance parameters of Mk1A is now much better (as targeted) then before (details to be out in coming months).
  3. LCA Mk1A aerodynamic performance changes need metallurgical changes which are taking time, so the timeline is a challenge which HAL is not ready to admit in public

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  • Safranised Kaveri Engine deal semi finalised owing to some differences rising in particular tech aspect.
  • Safransied Kaveri V1.0 Engine deal semi-finalized, the core is M8X-X based But without full passage of TOT.
  • The TOT and IPR holders want a share of the pie which has caused the delay in finalisation.
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  • MK1 as per files is still open as lockin for most of the new changes is not done at all.
  • Mk2 file mentions an explicit dependency on a MII program for a quicker plan or being ready or else a longer time schedule if its going alone.

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  • Systems beyond scope of this forum but is said to be the ones which team Dassault is researching and which puts the Rafale systems to be at par with an evolved version of older hardware of F22 and a new generation F35.
  • Interesting to note that such systems potentially will nullify almost all ADs for at least 2 decades. That is a potential crown jewel which is being talked about..

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Deathstar said:
I have seen the venom u spew on your forums , some pathetic people were taking pride in killing million bangalis in 71 and whatever i have said is accepted by your own Najam Sethi and Ex ISI head even Mushi accepted losses and even Nawaz Sharif
Your so called win on 27th is as fake as Mohammed Alam downing 5 jets in less than a minute and 4 in less than 30 seconds, what a joke and fool awam like you believes this
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On PDF? What kind of venom? I received negative ratings just because I trusted you guys.and I even trusted akhnoor story and everyone was making fun of me on PDF.what happened with your akhnoor story? You made me anti Pakistani in front of PDF audience.lies lies and more lies.
 
Arsalan123 said:
First ani reported f-16 went down in rajouri,than in raisi.what is more funny is your iaf showing wreckage of amraam.you killed your own 6 men in helicopter attack.i mean there was total panic on your side.according to some sources,su-30s dived in order to save themselves from amraams but I can tell you we have radar evidence of a suspected kill.your sources even claimed that transmission was jammed and that's why abhinandan didn't hear anything from the indian side.this is extremely funny.
Kargil changed our mindset.now we believe in attacking rather than playing defensive.in 65, India asked for cease fire first.
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In 65, India broke your drive on Kashmir, captured more territory and basically had no further aims to continue the war especially with the World Powers about to intervene.

SU-30 theory has been debunked so many times ... I am too damn tired to repeat this over and over again.

Kargil - you showed that your army has ZERO adherence to rules of war. Undeclared aggression, torture and killing of captives and mutilating their bodies, disowning your own soldiers. It changed your mindset truly. From being a semi professional army cum real estate agents cum part time investors cum hobbyist industrialists to a tribal militia.
 
Arsalan123 said:
On PDF? What kind of venom? I received negative ratings just because I trusted you guys.and I even trusted akhnoor story and everyone was making fun of me on PDF.what happened with your akhnoor story? You made me anti Pakistani in front of PDF audience.lies lies and more lies.
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Dont act naive , PDF is filled religious bigot people and full of delusion who take pride in pak army killing a million bengalis and call 1971 surrender as a tactical victory lol
 
Arsalan123 said:
We have taken revenge of atlantique.remember we already destroyed your two mig 27s with only shoulder fired missiles and now mig 21. We have done exceptionally well.what you have done after atlantique? Only one f-16( if your claim is true). Yes doorsteps of Lahore that's why your general decided that there is shortage of weapons so better accept cease fire .lol
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And you had to loose over 5k soldiers as per your own PM Nawaz. What a trade off buddy for a revenge.
 
Arsalan123 said:
Basically we did everything good on Feb 27.we wanted su-30 to stay away from migs and your su-30s did the right thing.there is radar evidence.check windjammer post on PDF.
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Arsalan123 said:
We have taken revenge of atlantique.remember we already destroyed your two mig 27s with only shoulder fired missiles and now mig 21. We have done exceptionally well.what you have done after atlantique? Only one f-16( if your claim is true). Yes doorsteps of Lahore that's why your general decided that there is shortage of weapons so better accept cease fire .lol
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Barki is just outside Lahore city right?

And where are the radar pics dude , answer this question
Were u successful in Operation Gibraltar?? Hell no , utterly failed
And don't forget we were weak after 1962 war yet with all western goodies you guys utterly failed
Read about battle of asal uttar
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Again humiliation
 
Arsalan123 said:
Past ko bhula de Bhai.ap jeete ya haare farq nahy parta.sawal ye he k aaj Kya badla? Kuch bhi nahy.
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Big change..you are keeping terrorist in your army camp. Loss of revenue for airspace closure and your quest for modern weapon from Russia.spend dollar.but No hold in response of terror attack from India.Thats what we want.FATF greylisting.Ur slipping Currency to 164.
 
Dil jale said:
Matlab aaj bhi ladai Hui toh Pakistan army apne soldiers ki dead bodies chhod k bhag jayegi battle field se ? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: world's best army ko yeh baat Shobha nahi deti Bhai!!!!
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This thread reminds me off a joke.
A pakistani went to 42nd street in Holland and asked every sex worker if she was game for Pakistan style sex. Everyone refused. Finally he met a Bangladeshi girl who said that she will give it a try. They made out.
Other girls from the street asked her what was so special about this Pakistani style of *censored*ing?
The girl replied, "Saala udhari kar gaya". This is the standard of Pakistanis. Sab kuch bheek main ya udhari main chahiyeh. Payment karnay kee aukaat nahin. Gaand main dum nahin, aur Pakistani phir bhi Pakistanis think that they are kissi say kam nahin.
 
RajibJ said:
Big change..you are keeping terrorist in your army camp. Loss of revenue for airspace closure and your quest for modern weapon from Russia.spend dollar.but No hold in response of terror attack from India.Thats what we want.FATF greylisting.Ur slipping Currency to 164.
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Sir where are the camps? They are imagination of your government.there are no such camps.people who wants to fight for Kashmir can easily sneak.there is no way to stop them.you know everything.
 
lcafanboy said:
Actually you should be thankful to our brave wing co Abhinandan. He saved your Karachi from sure destruction. Had he been not captured that the whole world would have seen India's might and your plight and helplessness. It was a quid pro quo you returned wing co Abhinandan unharmed and we let go Karachi.
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Karachi and Mumbai are very similar.you love Karachi,we love mumbai.this pilot saved lots of destruction
 
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