Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

That's official. France can't confirm a Rafale down.

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L'État-major des armées n'est pas en mesure de confirmer la perte au combat d'un Rafale indien - Zone Militaire

Après les frappes effectuées par l'Inde contre des positions tenues par des organisations terroristes au Pakistan , le 7 mai dernier, Islamabad a assuré
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“As far as the conflict between India and Pakistan is concerned, I'd like to point out that we're in the fog of war and that there's a strong information war going on. In other words, what we know today is that we don't know what happened. There are a certain number of allegations that I won't go into because there's no confirmed information,” said Colonel Vernet, responding to a question about the Rafale's use in India.

“Indeed, the Rafale is of prime importance to us. We're interested in what's happened. So we're trying to be as close as possible to our Indian partner to better understand” the events, continued the EMA spokesman. The challenge, he continued, is to learn from the feedback [RETEX] from the use of the Rafale “in high-intensity combat”.

“Clearly, according to some reports, several hundred aircraft were engaged” during this confrontation, he observed. But, he concluded, “above all, we can note that there have been twenty years of Rafale use, and that if there were to be a loss, it would be the first in combat”.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
 
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How long will it take for INDIAN Forces to get ready for the Next War , I mean rearming and
re equipping Our forces

Already there are reports of 8 to 9 billion dollars worth of more weapons to be purchased in this Financial Year ie till 31 March 2026
 
Milspec said:
Power.

Another stupid af narrative gulped hook line and sinker by the little ones.

Your Army keeps talking about this boogey of India and waters in Pakistan. India cannot, and will not stop/divert flow of water to Pakistan.

Pakistan Army's primary goal has, is and always will be to remain in power, it's real adversary is Pakistani institutions, not India. It will do everything in it's power to keep that boot on Pakistani awams neck.
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I think there's always been a dichotomy in this approach or rather thinking of Fauji Foundation which they themselves haven't quite noticed & which is perfectly understandable given how myopic they've been all through out their existence but & this is very important , neither have we.

If as you point out Fauji Foundation's primary goal is to retain power & enjoy the fish & loaves of office then logically it should be undermining democracy as they are & stick to that while growing their biz empire viz Fauji Foundation . Why's it they're hell bent on a proxy war throughout their neighborhood ?

If your argument is that helps them retain power by projecting themselves as the sole guardians of Paxtan , then that thought process is well past its sell by date.

It should've been scrapped as soon as they entered the downward spiral of borrowing to service previous lendings.

Add the precarious internal security situation to it be it in the form of the PTI or the various tanzeems now fighting it out with Fauji Foundation in KPK FATA or Balochistan.

It's this dichotomy in their approach which will severely undermine their hold over Paxtan if it hasn't already for as things stand they can still tackle all those tanzeems as they did in the past though it'd be that much more tough.

What they absolutely cannot do is open up external fronts while battling internal threats ! Unfortunately Munira is another idiot in the long list of idiots who've graced or rather disgraced the office of the CoAS & now the FM going back to Ayub Khan who instantly regretted 1965 which eventually precipitated his downfall.

I'm betting inbred Munira is still smarting from his loss . In any case sections of Fauji Foundation definitely are .

Either he initiates the second round or loses his throne to a subordinate. Remember he's gunning for an unprecedented 5 years in office of which he's completed half with a 2 year extension due towards the end of this year.

By the looks of things at present getting that extension with a pliable civilian administration in power is a cinch.

I doubt the legions of Lt Gen occupying the second rung of office will sit back quietly & watch.
 
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Fatalis said:
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What with fetish of jet being down.... Do these jokers think we attacked thinking there will be no casualties lol. We came we bombed are targets + 11 Airforce bases, destroyed there assets on grounds including early warning radars & just called off Porkee nuclear bluff & established a new norm in dealing with Porkee going forward..... This whole jet downing is trying to give Porkee a face saving and moral boost after the humiliation they received as they have nothing to show for.
 
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South block said:
What with fetish of jet being down.... Do these jokers think we attacked thinking there will be no casualties lol. We came we bombed are targets + 11 Airforce bases, destroyed there assets on grounds including early warning radars & just called off Porkee nuclear bluff & established a new norm in dealing with Porkee going forward..... This whole jet downing is trying to give Porkee a face saving and moral boost after the humiliation they received as they have nothing to show for.
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It's just a cope for porkis.

Imagine losing a AWACS on ground it's a biggest humiliation for any airforce.
 
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South block said:
What with fetish of jet being down.... Do these jokers think we attacked thinking there will be no casualties lol. We came we bombed are targets + 11 Airforce bases, destroyed there assets on grounds including early warning radars & just called off Porkee nuclear bluff & established a new norm in dealing with Porkee going forward..... This whole jet downing is trying to give Porkee a face saving and moral boost after the humiliation they received as they have nothing to show for.
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Agreed. A biased coverage has been accepted as a fact even by many European analysts. However, India not presenting high resolution satellite images even after the op was paused was called to be a mistake. OSINT accounts, Washington Post, Indian Media houses had to pay to get detailed images and put out damage assessment reports. The government needs to think over how it proceeds with such info coverage in future.
 
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Chain Smoker said:
It's just a cope for porkis.

Imagine losing a AWACS on ground it's a biggest humiliation for any airforce.
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This sound like a miscommunication due to language barrier.... All these western channels are trying to give Porkee a face saving one way or the other. Whole purpose of such questions are a diversion..... One cane see how articles were being written by first time Chinese & Porkee on these big media channel sites.
Than came Indian spanking & they tone down since evidence was overwhelming. The intention of paid tattus is clear here.
 
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South block said:
What with fetish of jet being down.... Do these jokers think we attacked thinking there will be no casualties lol. We came we bombed are targets + 11 Airforce bases, destroyed there assets on grounds including early warning radars & just called off Porkee nuclear bluff & established a new norm in dealing with Porkee going forward..... This whole jet downing is trying to give Porkee a face saving and moral boost after the humiliation they received as they have nothing to show for.
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That's the only way they can cope. The whole propaganda of Pakistan rests of rafale downing. So that they can show how Sooper Dooper the PAF is. It will make the awam happy and keep their mouth shut for a while.
 
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Tactical issues are those issues that are short-term in nature and involve the tactics for implementing strategic plans. I would pay less attention to these press statements and more to what they have to say about the 1 round of engagement itself after the operation. Now would be a time to release the footage of strikes (tracking, AD engagement, and ALCM packages) like the other IAF (Israel) does soon after their missions.
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
The US also began its Iraq and Kosovo Campaign with SEAD AND DEAD missions

So obviously the 6th /7th May missions were risky

But the Question is why did PAF disappear after 6 th May if they performed so well ,as per their statements
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Nobody is raising these questions is the sad part. Also, PM Sharif said yesterday that the PAF downed 4 Rafale jets. Was the addition to the previous claims based on a fairy who visited him in his dreams. ROFL.
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
The US also began its Iraq and Kosovo Campaign with SEAD AND DEAD missions

So obviously the 6th /7th May missions were risky

But the Question is why did PAF disappear after 6 th May if they performed so well ,as per their statements
https://twitter.com/x/status/1928380494091038934
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The initial 7th of May was a kind of mixture of bureaucratic, political, and intelligence plans; we will hit the terrorist camp, not the PAF. They forgot terrorists and the PA are two hands of the same body. Also, if we see the initial meetings, it was more of a political and bureaucratic plan.

Thanks to satellite images, Pakistan can't escape from this humiliation. If these were not available, they would have simply escaped by saying nothing happened, and we would have left with the fighter down the narrative. Which actually they can't prove since the wreckage isn't available, like we were saying about the F-16 down.
 
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