Pakistan AirForce : Updates & Discussions
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New Air mobility inductions by PAF
- Beechcraft King Air 350i
- Additional C-130 H from Belgiam
- Piper M-600
- Phenom-100
- Airbus A-319
- Bombardier Global – 6000
- Boeing 737
- HQ-9B HiMAD
- Electronic Air Defense Systems from China
- YLC-8E
- TPS 77 MRR
- TPS 43G upgraded
- TB2
- Akinci
Early retirement of CN-235s & ZDK-03 along with phasing out of F7PGs & ROSE.
Even with their limited budget resources, they're doing everything in their power to not lag behind IAF. Anyways, thanks to our indigenous drive we shall continue to pull away from them as our target is firmly set on countering the Dragon in an existential long war.
TOBA TEK SINGH: A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Mirage aircraft which had flown from Shorkot Rafiqui airbase, crashed while on a routine operational training mission on Tuesday near Chak 412 JB Cheemian Wali in Shorkot tehsil, Jhang, some 12 km away from the airbase.
A police spokesperson said the pilot ejected safely and no loss of property had been reported on ground.
He said a citizen identified as Ikhlaq Ahmad was injured who had been shifted to local hospital. He said the crash was caused due to some technical fault.
Rescue 1122 extinguished the fire erupted in the aircraft while the Shorkot DSP and the respective police station house officer had reached promptly to cordon and secure the area.
Published in Dawn, May 22nd, 2024
A police spokesperson said the pilot ejected safely and no loss of property had been reported on ground.
He said a citizen identified as Ikhlaq Ahmad was injured who had been shifted to local hospital. He said the crash was caused due to some technical fault.
Rescue 1122 extinguished the fire erupted in the aircraft while the Shorkot DSP and the respective police station house officer had reached promptly to cordon and secure the area.
Published in Dawn, May 22nd, 2024
PAF training aircraft crashes
TOBA TEK SINGH: A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Mirage aircraft which had flown from Shorkot Rafiqui airbase, crashed...
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Agree, and PAF's official youtube channel is also pretty active recently uploading many videos with comments turned off (probably Imran Khan fiasco effect).
Some interesting snaps:
PAF-ACE, Mushaf Airbase Sargodha Pakistan’s Airpower Centre of Excellence (ACE)
PAF Air Power Center of Excellence consists of the following 5 schools:- Combat Commanders School (CCS)- Tactics Development School (TDS)- Air Warfare School (AWS)- Air Battle Management School (ABMS)- Training Evaluation Center (TEC)
Pakistani Armed Forces ORBAT, Part 7: Air Force - अरे यायावर रहेगा याद?
Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has grappled with various issues over the last 2-3 decades mostly due to lack of funding and sanctions. Yet it has kept a reasonably good inventory of aircraft and munitions through extensive efforts of sourcing second hand air frames, spares and overhauls. Even with...
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JTAC-training VR simulator probably from this Singapore company ST Engineering and MAK ONE
News - Pakistan Air Force Chooses MAK Technologies to Provide MAK ONE Software for Composite Simulation Centre’s Synthetic Battlefield Environment
Pakistan Air Force Chooses MAK Technologies to Provide MAK ONE Software for Composite Simulation Centre’s Synthetic Battlefield Environment
Interest map from their SMCC (Sector Mission Control Center) and ADOC (Air Defence Operational Center) is showing weird map with POJK as separate but POG&B as joined with pakistan, are they two different Air Commands or what? Similar map from old video from a news report
China launches multi-functional communication satellite for Pakistan
Sydney, Australia (SPX) Jun 01, 2024 - China launched a communication satellite for Pakistan on Thursday night from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in Sichuan province, reported China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp (CASC).
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Are Pakistan’s Joint Chinese JF-17 ‘Thunder’ Jets Working Out?
- Despite claims of 58% Pakistani production, the majority of the aircraft is produced in China, with the final assembly in Pakistan.
- The JF-17 has faced criticism for its performance, maintenance costs, and technical issues, but it has had some limited export success
- "The aircraft's capability is judged by the avionics, weapons, and engine equipping it, and the JF-17 fails to hit the mark in most areas." It is also claimed the jet had performed poorly against Indian Air Force Mirage-2000 and SU-30s in 2019.
Are Pakistan’s Joint Chinese JF-17 ‘Thunder’ Jets Working Out?
Pakistan's low-cost, semi-indigenous JF-17 has been criticized as a failure, citing poor performance and avionics.
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We have a worse DM than AK Antony now.
@vstol Jockey why this government a failure when comes to defense? Was having high hopes in 2014 when they came to power. Now in 2024,IAF still looking for mmrca fighter, still looking for follow in phalcon,still looking for refuellers,still flying mig 21 etc.
@Rajput Lion
TBH, even I am very disappointed by this govt on this point.
Pakistan Begins Sending Pilots to China to Fly the 5th Gen FC-31 “Gyrfalcon” Fighter Jet
By admin | On Aug 10, 2024
Pakistani media reports that the Pakistan Air Force has already sent a group of its pilots to undergo training on flying the Chinese-made fifth-generation fighter jet, the FC-31, which is the country's second fifth-generation fighter after the J-20 "Mighty Dragon."
(DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA) — Earlier this year, the Pakistan Air Force hinted at its acquisition of the fifth-generation stealth fighter jet, the FC-31 “Gyrfalcon,” developed by China’s Shenyang Aircraft Corporation.Pakistan’s Air Force Chief of Staff Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu reportedly stated at an event early last year that the FC-31 would soon enter service in the country’s air force.
“Negotiations have already taken place to enable the acquisition of the FC-31, which will soon become part of the Pakistan Air Force,” he said at the event.
Now, Pakistani media reports indicate that the Pakistan Air Force has sent a team of pilots to undergo training to fly the Chinese-made 5th generation fighter jet, the FC-31.
The FC-31 is China’s second domestically developed 5th generation fighter jet, following the J-20 “Mighty Dragon,” which has not been exported and is used exclusively by the Chinese Air Force.
“The F-31 ‘Gyrfalcon’ or J-31 Developed by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation”
The acquisition of the 5th generation stealth fighter jet, FC-31 would further increase the presence of Chinese-made fighter jets in the Pakistan Air Force’s inventory, following the earlier acquisition of J-10C fighter jets developed by China and the JF-17, which was jointly developed by Islamabad and Beijing.
Reports from Pakistani media that the country’s air force has begun sending pilots to China to fly the FC-31 fighter jet indicate that the South Asian nation is indeed moving toward acquiring fifth-generation fighter jets.
This development has raised concerns among Pakistan’s neighboring “traditional adversary,” India, which still relies on 4.5-generation fighter jets like the Sukhoi Su-30MKI and Rafale.
Not only will India face a China that has already deployed fifth-generation fighter jets the J-20, but it may also soon face Pakistan operating fifth-generation fighter jets.
According to analysts, the acquisition of the fifth-generation stealth fighter FC-31 is intended to replace Pakistan’s aging fleet of American-made F-16s and French-made Mirage 5 fighter jets.
“FC-31”
If Pakistan’s acquisition of the FC-31 fighter jets comes to fruition, analysts suggest that it could shift the balance of air power in the region, potentially complicating matters for India’s defense strategy.
The FC-31 fighter jet will enhance Pakistan’s tactical flexibility, allowing it to penetrate deeper into enemy airspace.
The Chinese government is keen to promote the FC-31 for export markets and has established a special office to attract potential foreign customers for the F-31 fighter jet.
Beijing has not allowed the export of the J-20 Mighty Dragon, similar to how the United States has restricted the sale of the F-22 Raptor.
Like the U.S., Beijing is concerned that the advanced technology of the J-20 could fall into enemy hands if it permits the sale of the fifth-generation fighter jet known as the “Mighty Dragon.”
Chinese-made FC-31 5th Gen stealth fighter.
The FC-31 is a single-seat, twin-engine, medium-sized fifth-generation fighter jet with robust stealth capabilities and competitive costs.
China is reportedly preparing the FC-31 for carrier-based operations, similar to the F-35B and the latest F-35C developed by Lockheed Martin.
Although its technical specifications are not fully known, the Maximum Take-Off Weight (MTOW) of the FC-31 fighter jet has increased from 25,000 kg to 28,000 kg and is equipped with WS-19 engines with a thrust power of 12 tons.
The jet features two internal bays, each capable of carrying two medium-range air-to-air missiles. Additionally, it has hardpoints that can be equipped with various bombs and missiles. — DSA
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Source: Defence Security Asia
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I hope this actually happens. Would love to see the response from the MoD
Pakistan Begins Sending Pilots to China to Fly the 5th Gen FC-31 “Gyrfalcon” Fighter JetBy admin | On Aug 10, 2024 (DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA) — Earlier this year, the Pakistan Air Force hinted at its acquisition of the fifth-generation stealth fighter jet, the FC-31 “Gyrfalcon,” developed by China’s Shenyang Aircraft Corporation.
Pakistani media reports that the Pakistan Air Force has already sent a group of its pilots to undergo training on flying the Chinese-made fifth-generation fighter jet, the FC-31, which is the country's second fifth-generation fighter after the J-20 "Mighty Dragon."
Pakistan’s Air Force Chief of Staff Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu reportedly stated at an event early last year that the FC-31 would soon enter service in the country’s air force.
“Negotiations have already taken place to enable the acquisition of the FC-31, which will soon become part of the Pakistan Air Force,” he said at the event.
Now, Pakistani media reports indicate that the Pakistan Air Force has sent a team of pilots to undergo training to fly the Chinese-made 5th generation fighter jet, the FC-31.
The FC-31 is China’s second domestically developed 5th generation fighter jet, following the J-20 “Mighty Dragon,” which has not been exported and is used exclusively by the Chinese Air Force.
“The F-31 ‘Gyrfalcon’ or J-31 Developed by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation”
The acquisition of the 5th generation stealth fighter jet, FC-31 would further increase the presence of Chinese-made fighter jets in the Pakistan Air Force’s inventory, following the earlier acquisition of J-10C fighter jets developed by China and the JF-17, which was jointly developed by Islamabad and Beijing.
Reports from Pakistani media that the country’s air force has begun sending pilots to China to fly the FC-31 fighter jet indicate that the South Asian nation is indeed moving toward acquiring fifth-generation fighter jets.
This development has raised concerns among Pakistan’s neighboring “traditional adversary,” India, which still relies on 4.5-generation fighter jets like the Sukhoi Su-30MKI and Rafale.
Not only will India face a China that has already deployed fifth-generation fighter jets the J-20, but it may also soon face Pakistan operating fifth-generation fighter jets.
According to analysts, the acquisition of the fifth-generation stealth fighter FC-31 is intended to replace Pakistan’s aging fleet of American-made F-16s and French-made Mirage 5 fighter jets.
“FC-31”
If Pakistan’s acquisition of the FC-31 fighter jets comes to fruition, analysts suggest that it could shift the balance of air power in the region, potentially complicating matters for India’s defense strategy.
The FC-31 fighter jet will enhance Pakistan’s tactical flexibility, allowing it to penetrate deeper into enemy airspace.
The Chinese government is keen to promote the FC-31 for export markets and has established a special office to attract potential foreign customers for the F-31 fighter jet.
Beijing has not allowed the export of the J-20 Mighty Dragon, similar to how the United States has restricted the sale of the F-22 Raptor.
Like the U.S., Beijing is concerned that the advanced technology of the J-20 could fall into enemy hands if it permits the sale of the fifth-generation fighter jet known as the “Mighty Dragon.”
Chinese-made FC-31 5th Gen stealth fighter.
The FC-31 is a single-seat, twin-engine, medium-sized fifth-generation fighter jet with robust stealth capabilities and competitive costs.
China is reportedly preparing the FC-31 for carrier-based operations, similar to the F-35B and the latest F-35C developed by Lockheed Martin.
Although its technical specifications are not fully known, the Maximum Take-Off Weight (MTOW) of the FC-31 fighter jet has increased from 25,000 kg to 28,000 kg and is equipped with WS-19 engines with a thrust power of 12 tons.
The jet features two internal bays, each capable of carrying two medium-range air-to-air missiles. Additionally, it has hardpoints that can be equipped with various bombs and missiles. — DSA
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Source: Defence Security Asia
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I hope this actually happens. Would love to see the response from the MoD
Any idea of Jf 17 block 3 numbers ordered?
How many more of J10 will Pakistan buy?
We read news about Pak request to roll over of Chinese loans, request of more IMF loans..
all to avoid bankruptcy..
Yet they are going ahead with FC31.
Can we expect J 31 in PAF colors in 3-4 years time frame, By the time Amca prototype makes flight? Or could it be even earlier..?
@Rajput Lion @randomradio
By all accounts, they want a minimum of 36 to play equal-equal with the IAF. Remember reading a report on Quwa that they might eventually exceed 100.
The FC31s reported specs closely match the AMCAs. So they will likely not go for other alternatives like the Kaan, despite claims to the contrary.
Remember how they talked about buying J10s for years before actually getting them.
They were probably hoping for baksheesh F16s from the US.
Imo all this talk of J31 is just psyops, atleast for now. Like any discerning buyer, the Pakistanis would probably want to see how the jet performs on its home turf before buying it.
How many J 31 were built & inducted as of today? ?
Just searched google.. Not getting any straight answers.