PLAAF J20 production rates are through the roof.
if this is true, it wouldn't be a shock to see over 1000 J-20 of the old and new variant by 2030. Before India even starts testing the AMCA prototype.
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PLAAF J20 production rates are through the roof.
if this is true, it wouldn't be a shock to see over 1000 J-20 of the old and new variant by 2030. Before India even starts testing the AMCA prototype.
They are not going to deploy entire J-20 fleet against us. And Rafale combined with MKI UPG tagged with AFNET/IACCS are good enough to thwart any PLAAF threat to our Army and other ground targets.
However, J-20 would force both Rafale and upgraded MKI defensive, no two ways about it. We need Su-57MKI to fully defeat J-20. F-35? While it is available to us, I doubt whether it can defeat J-20B(with WS-15 engines) in a head-on fight being a strike fighter and not air superiority.
I've said this before and will say it again that dropping out of FGFA was a blunder for us.
I remember in 2017, when the J20 was first put into service, PLA envisioned using a small number of Generation 5 aircraft with a large number of Generation 4.5 aircraft to defend against penetration and air control operations of Generation 5 aircraft in the context of early warning aircraft and ground anti stealth radar. However, it was found that it was not feasible at all, and you wanted to use a small number of Generation 4.5 aircraft with a large number of Generation 4 aircraft to defend the J20
Let him be delusional. F-35 likely no match for J-20 but Rafail and super duper MKI is A-Okay. Try figure that logic.I remember in 2017, when the J20 was first put into service, PLA envisioned using a small number of Generation 5 aircraft with a large number of Generation 4.5 aircraft to defend against penetration and air control operations of Generation 5 aircraft in the context of early warning aircraft and ground anti stealth radar. However, it was found that it was not feasible at all, and you wanted to use a small number of Generation 4.5 aircraft with a large number of Generation 4 aircraft to defend the J20
The F35 is more threatening than most people think, and its poor mobility is described more in the supersonic region, and its mobility in the subsonic and Transonic stages is revolutionary compared with the fourth generation aircraftLet him be delusional. F-35 likely no match for J-20 but Rafail and super duper MKI is A-Okay. Try figure that logic.
Not to mention his mosaic warfare concept based on artificial intelligence ,It is poses a serious threat to any country
Yes. Nothing surprising. I had actually pointed out back in 2018 on PDF in a discussion with JHungary that PLAAF will have 500-1000 J-20s before 2030.
It's not enough from their perspective 'cause they are preparing to fight the US, Japan, Australia and Taiwan, and they will have to face an equal number of next gen fighters by the time they fight over Taiwan. In the meantime, the US alone is gonna add almost 400 F-35s over the next 3-4 years.
Another headache for China is the Russians are ramping up fighter production to 100 a year.
The only things working in our favour today is geography and the fact that China is distracted elsewhere, as some of their strategic advantages are rapidly eroding.
In 2017 and 2020, most of the air forces and even Naval aviation forces in the Eastern Theater of Operations have been on duty and training in Tibet for a long time. China will not fight with all countries at the same time. When fighting with India, it is only necessary to ensure the territorial air defense demand in the East
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I remember in 2017, when the J20 was first put into service, PLA envisioned using a small number of Generation 5 aircraft with a large number of Generation 4.5 aircraft to defend against penetration and air control operations of Generation 5 aircraft in the context of early warning aircraft and ground anti stealth radar. However, it was found that it was not feasible at all, and you wanted to use a small number of Generation 4.5 aircraft with a large number of Generation 4 aircraft to defend the J20
Rafale won't be able to fight PLAAF head-on, it will have to fight at low altitude, where the BVR advantage disappears.
There aren't enough Rafales, but we have time to fix that.
With the F-22 around, the F-35's supersonic capabilities are irrelevant anyway.
If China goes to war with the US, the losses will be heavy. And all the losses China will face will have to be rebuilt, which may also include J-20 production lines, shipyards, ports, railway lines etc, including targets in Xinjiang and Tibet.
Since India will be forced to militarise, investments can be made to catch up with wartime requirements. For example, if we assume US-China war happens in 2026, it may take at least 5-6 years for China to prepare against India, giving us enough time to militarise.
Also, I believe we will have even more time than that because China's problems won't disappear with just 1 war with the US. If China loses, it will have to try again. And if it wins, China will have to try and deal with the situation in the SCS as well. And the US could also militarise and then try and retake Taiwan. So India could easily have 10-15 years of time.
Furthermore, China's miscalculations in Doklam and Galwan have allowed the Indian Army to catch up and is soon to surpass the PLAGF in terms of infrastructure, organisation and technology.
Russian inductions will rival China's making it unpredictable for PLAAF, so there will be a significant air defence demand in the North too. Especially if China has taken heavy losses against the US.
I think you should look at the serious media in the United States, rather than the Indian media that is trying to please Modi fans. China US relations are fiercely competitive but not a full-scale confrontation like the Cold War, let alone before World War II. Your understanding of international relations is roughly the same as that of car rental drivers
I am confident that Indian Army is fat and bureaucratic. On the contrary, I regret that it was India when Donglang was launched. After all, before 2017, Tibet and Xinjiang were full of 1960s weapons
Taiwan is an existential threat to China. And if China takes Taiwan, then the next target will be the Senkaku Islands, which will force the US and Japan to fight again. So both Taiwan and Senkaku will have to be attacked together by China, it lowers the risk of war.
Alternatively, if the US loses control over Taiwan, then China gets across the First Island Chain, and that's a threat to US territories in the Pacific, like Guam and Mariana Islands. It will also become very difficult for the US to protect South Korea, and significantly weaken its position in the SCS. It can even force the US to withdraw from the West Pacific in time.
So, for both countries, Taiwan is very important. Any war fought for it will be a major war. And the US is producing and deploying weapons that can hit China in depth areas, both LRHW and B-21 are meant to attack Chengdu. You haven't understood what's at stake.
Also, to China, East Theater Command only concerns Taiwan, but to the US, INDOPACOM concerns the entire Pacific Ocean. From their perspective, all of China will be a target, and they need to hit depth areas 'cause that's where all the Chinese military targets are.
The US doesn't want a war, so the US media is pushing that narrative. What the US military is doing is much more important, and they are preparing for a major war. If you are blind to this reality, then nothing can be done.
Anyway, I believe China will lose the first time and win the second time, 'cause Taiwan will far too destroyed for the US to manage a viable defence of the island a second time.
It's the opposite. You should get your information from proper sources.
And it will be very funny if you claim the PLA is actually more efficient.
PLAGF was still modernising, so it was inevitable, regardless of whether Doklam or Galwan happened.
Notwithstanding the gradual decrease in the size of People Liberation Army’s army (PLAA) from 3.46 million in 2010 to 3.21 million in 2020 (See Table 1), the major focus over the last decade has been to downsize and modernise the overall PLA into a more efficient force. A coherent blueprint for doing so emerged under President Xi Jinping. The reference to ‘optimising’ the PLA’s scale and structure to construct a “modern military force”, though adopted much earlier, was openly espoused from 2015[48]. In 2016, the CMC established an outline for military reform till 2020, emphasising the transformation of the PLA from a “quantitative” to a “qualitative” force, essentially creating an “optimisation of ratios” between its services.[49] At the Chinese Communist Party’s 19th National Congress in 2017, Xi succinctly put forth a two-stage plan for the country’s future. The first was to complete a “socialist modernisation”[50] by 2035. And the second stage was to become a “global leader in terms of composite national strength and international influence”[51] by 2049. For these reasons the downsizing and the efficient optimisation of the remaining personnel of the PLA has remained of prime importance.
Preparation for modernisation began under Xi in 2013. PLA's theaterisation also happened in 2016. So I have no clue how you decided Doklam was important to all this.
What India's actions in Doklam told the Chinese was India will challenge Chinese claims. Galwan cemented that claim.
In 2021, the IA raised 2 corps, which are Group Army-equivalent units, meant to attack Tibet. We effectively added 2 more corps and 2 additional divisions to stake our claim, something we had avoided doing all these years for the sake of good relations.
From just 11 divisions and 1 brigade, China is now facing 18 divisions. And with more modern equipment than PLAGF's. A huge change considering we didn't even have enough ammunition a few years ago.
Imagine what would have happened without Doklam and Galwan. India wouldn't have built border infrastructure or began the modernisation of the military. The army wouldn't have raised 2 strike corps as well. Today, we have both tactical and strategic superiority on the ground. Earlier, just 5-6 Group Armies were sufficient to fight India, but today PLAGF needs 8-9.
Both MKI and Rafale are 4.5 gen. Rafale being more advance because of all new design and tech.I remember in 2017, when the J20 was first put into service, PLA envisioned using a small number of Generation 5 aircraft with a large number of Generation 4.5 aircraft to defend against penetration and air control operations of Generation 5 aircraft in the context of early warning aircraft and ground anti stealth radar. However, it was found that it was not feasible at all, and you wanted to use a small number of Generation 4.5 aircraft with a large number of Generation 4 aircraft to defend the J20
J-20 attacking Indian ground troops and C&C centers would stay radar silent while J-16 would stay back and use its radar to guide J-20 towards the target. Now Rafale with SPECTRA and MKI with Dhruti(and super dhruti in upgrade) would easily geo-locate the hostile emitter. Since now IAF is well aware of J-20 threat, we're seriously looking to defeat it. So, our fighters would assume that J-20s are definitely around trying to sneak from some other vector. That's where using IRSTs, airborne radars and our long range high power anti-stealth radars, both Rafale and MKI would know about the location of J-20. And once your J-20 is found, it's over for it.
I am talking about head-on fight. J-20 because of its VLO design will have "first look and first shoot" advantage over both MKI and Rafale. Thus pushing them defensive. Here I am talking about defensive warfare using IADS and our fighters to thwart the Chinese VLO threat.Let him be delusional. F-35 likely no match for J-20 but Rafail and super duper MKI is A-Okay. Try figure that logic.
J-20 with WS-15 will have F-22 like kinematics. While F-35 is more stealthy. It can't fly as fast or as high as J-20. It can't supercruise as well. We need F-22 or Su-57 to defeat J-20. F-22 is not for sale, so our next best option is Su-57.
The 4.5 generation aircraft requires at least advanced AESA radar and advanced integrated fire control architecture, as well as advanced electronic warfare equipment and weapons. It is difficult to say that the Su 30MKI meets this standard
You assumed a penetrating air campaign, but unfortunately it was all wrong. The one who turned on the radar in the first place should be an unmanned drone, such as the GJ11,
Then you assume that after destroying J16, you will discover J20 through various things that India does not have, and destroy it. I don't know how you came to this conclusion. Firstly, the probability of you shooting down J16 is very small, and the only possibility is to use Rafale fighter jets to launch Meteor missiles. However, India only has 36, and how can you cross the defense line of J20 and attack J16 in the rear
Currently, India only has Rafale fighter jets equipped with AESA. In the future, there may be Tejas equipped with Israel's 2052 radar, which is a small radar launched by Israel to upgrade the international market's Mirage 3 and F5. IRST only has Rafale fighter jets with certain capabilities, and finally, India does not have anti-stealth radar or similar devices
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Doctors would diagnose this as delusionosis... That's how he came to such a ridiculous conclusion.
Have you really thought about the possibility of a war between two nuclear powers, and have you considered what it means to engage in this globalized world today? China has never considered immediate reunification, and its first task is to achieve national modernization
It's more than likely that only Chinese stealth drones will penetrate into India, even that is unlikely due to the high altitude of Chinese bases, outside of some areas like the north of Kashmir. The J-16s and J-20s don't have to emit either.
A major war can be fought without nuclear weapons. It was the same during WW2, both sides had chemical weapons but even at the cost of losing, neither side attempted to use them. Nuclear weapons are not meant to fight wars, they are meant to ensure the survival of a nation state.
You believe that the US will treat Taiwan like Ukraine. But the US cannot protect South Korea and Japan without Taiwan because Taiwan splits PLAN into two.
Taiwan too needs to defend itself by attacking Chinese shipyards, ports and other military production and logistics. They are developing weapons for it.
China's running out of time for reunification. The US is at its weakest this decade, and China will gain a temporary regional superiority between 2025 and 2030. The best opportunity is between 2025 and 2027. 'Cause if China waits beyond 2030, then people between ages 13 and 23 in Taiwan will become 20 to 30 years old by 2030, that's military age, and they won't accept China due to their military training and indoctrination.