They are doing 2 low bypass engines and one highbypass engine. It would be doing the role of both the j-20 as well as f-117/b-21.
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He ain't no Japanese but a CCP bot or a P o r k i disguised as a Jap guy.
The way he wrote bro screams to me that he is some Rawalpindi mutt. The Japs don't type in this kind of english.
There is a concept in biology called convergent evolution. It refers to two types of organisms that are distantly related and have evolved similar characteristics due to long-term exposure to similar living environments. Similar weapons may not be due to technological surprise attacks or borrowing, but rather because the battlefield environment requires them to possess certain attributes.
There is a term in economics called cost-effectiveness. No matter how good the quality is, once the price exceeds the threshold, there will be no economy. In the 1960s, Japanese manufacturing was considered synonymous with roughness and affordability. At this point, Japanese manufacturing did not give up, but continued to iterate its technology. However, technological iteration means more investment and higher unit costs. When the product quality increases by 100%, it is very difficult to control the cost increase within 50% or even 30%.
The decline of Japan's shipbuilding industry is a consensus among the Japanese people. This situation began as early as the 1990s. Don't think that the shipbuilding industry is built from scratch, it is actually an assembly industry of various systems. If the cost-effectiveness of subsystem products in a region is higher, then the shipbuilding industry will follow suit. As early as the 1980s, Japanese shipbuilding companies began to shift production to South Korea because the subsystem production and assembly in South Korea were more cost-effective than in Japan. For example, the quality of South Korean shipbuilding is only 80% of Japan's, but the cost is only 50% of Japan's. Japan has never been able to change the situation of low cost-effectiveness, so the Japanese shipbuilding industry attempted to develop high profit shipbuilding, such as cruise ships, but this was quickly surpassed by South Korea.
Today, China's shipbuilding industry is rising, surpassing South Korea's shipbuilding industry, while Japan's shipbuilding industry has long declined.
Part of the reason for the decline of Japanese industry is the suppression of the United States, but more importantly, there are systemic issues within Japan. Friend, do you know about Toyota cars? Do you know why Toyota has gradually fallen behind in the field of new energy? This is because the automotive industry is no exception, involving machinery, steel, electronics, tires, chemicals, etc. Manufacturing a car may require the joint production of 100000 companies. Toyota has driven the employment of millions of Japanese workers. If Toyota transitions to new energy, traditional manufacturing will be in decline, and the Japanese government is unwilling to let Toyota abandon these traditional laborers. Sure, Toyota is very large, and the reason for the difficulty in transformation is also due to its large size.
If building a cutting-edge weapon requires huge investment and is not economically viable, then this weapon design is a failure. For example, the US Navy's DDGX does have advanced performance, but its price is over 3 billion US dollars or even higher. However, the 055 destroyer only has 1/3 or even 1/4 of the performance of the DDGX, and its performance is comparable to that of the DDGX. Even for me, I know what I would choose.
The black humor lies in the fact that the US Navy can fully commission the shipbuilding industry in Japan and South Korea to produce, with a minimum price reduction of about 50%, but the US Shipbuilding Act restricts the transfer of naval production to the US. If one day the US Navy needs to fight against PLAN, it is possible to rely on Japan and South Korea to produce DDGX. At that time, Japan and South Korea will produce weapons for the United States, and then the Americans will use these weapons to suppress Japan and South Korea.
There's no point in comparing one ship to another beyond reading a specs sheet for fun. The USN's network and support structure is on an entirely different class due to their global presence.
The Soviets built the Kirov class to counter that. So China's gonna have to cultivate military allies around the world or build significantly superior ships with nuclear propulsion to maintain parity with the USN.
Of course, the comparison is valid if your plan is to stay within 1000 km of Chinese territory.
There is neither a need for the US to build ships outside the US nor will they use their own ships to suppress allies, they use their economy for that.
China has to cater to US allies' building speed too. Japan is expected to increase military shipbuilding over the next 10 years.
I don't think you realize how culturally superior India was compared to China for thousands of years.
For example, until the arrival of Islam, civilians were forbidden from being targets during war, which meant that for thousands of years no economic center in India was destroyed. This allowed us to culturally and economically dominate the world for about 3000 years. Compare that to the total massacre of entire populations in China throughout history, which is probably still happening under the CCP.
India also did not have slavery for thousands of years.
Lastly, even in the modern world today there is no equivalent to the ancient Gurukul system of education, where instead of a fixed curriculum, students were taught based on their talents and interests. It was created in 5000 BC. It was so efficient that the British destroyed it, and the Congress continued to maintain that policy. So we have church-led convents and mosque-led madrassas today, but no temple-led Gurukuls.
India invented democracy and its earliest form very similar to what the world has today was practiced since long before the Greeks. That's also why we are culturally accepting of democracy even today. Democracy is the foundation of our culture.
There is some evidence to suggest that the third engine on the upper surface of the J-36 could be a Turbine-Based Combined Cycle engine.
What is interesting, however, is to determine what the doctrine of use of such a vector might be and the objectives for which it was designed.
The technical characteristics and requirements would then follow.
For the moment, the only coherent hypothesis is a desire to extend the A2/AD dome as far as the second island chain, but this has yet to be confirmed.
What is interesting, however, is to determine what the doctrine of use of such a vector might be and the objectives for which it was designed.
The technical characteristics and requirements would then follow.
For the moment, the only coherent hypothesis is a desire to extend the A2/AD dome as far as the second island chain, but this has yet to be confirmed.
Both these 6th gen birds would be ready for war, only post 2035. Plenty of time for us to draw our future roadmap and a valid counter.
Not necessarily. It takes time to flight test a highly maneverable aircraft, but a strike jet only needs 3-4 years of testing. And given the speed at which the J-20 was flight tested, this jet could take a shorter time to field. My estimate is 2029-30 for a brigade strength. And even if it's an initial version, its physical parameters are leagues ahead for it to matter in a competition.
And if it is carrying a rumored hybrid engine with ramjet, then its only competitors are Mig-41 (est. mach 4.3) and potentially the advanced version of NGAD (est. mach 3.5+).
As an aside, this should be the first time I've seen Indians rethink the gap with China on a massive scale, when the J-20 came along, Indians think your engine is not good, so you are not a fifth-generation aircraft, India's su 30 and Rafale aircraft can fight or even exceed, when the sixth-generation aircraft appear, No rational Indian is still denying the gap with China
A person who has relations with the PLA made the explanation, I think said is very interesting
Well you definitely would need 3 engines, in order to Power multiple radar's & mission computers and supercurise at High altitude,
And for NGAD it's still behind the closed doors, only the USAF officials know what's been they upto, and saying it slow its a foolish take,
Lmao, you are making your own assumption bud, nobody denies the 5th gen fighter's or the 6th gen jet, and their superiority to the respective class
Pic of rear of plane shows all three exhausts are the same which contradicts all the speculations about a third, completely different RAMJET engine in the middle.
Maybe the third engine to keep-up with size, speed & fuel-load/weapons-load demand rather than as a near-space fighter
The two current or even their latest doesn't have enough thrust to carry that hefty girl fully loaded. I still think she's a tech demonstrator and not prototype.Maybe the third engine to keep-up with size, speed & fuel-load/weapons-load demand rather than as a near-space fighter
Yikes. Well I guess 3 engines it is which now leads me to believe it is more of a strike fighter.
The other one is not getting much love but that look like a pure fighter. Can't wait to see their long range stealth bomber rumors are they may unveil it soon.