Dassault never blackmails, it may seem like blackmail, but the reality is that Dassault is faithful to certain principles on which it never gives in, whatever the consequences. The need for a true prime contractor responsible for all the consequences of his decisions on important programmes is one of these principles. There can be no parity at the head of a programme.
That's the kind of things we're used to with India.
We've been saying for a while that the FCAS was a stillborn project due to German shenanigans. You can't build a project with a partner that insists on renegotiating everything every three weeks.
We will make FCAS with India.
New German government revisits Tornado replacement options
Germany is once again weighing its options for replacing the country’s aging Tornado aircraft fleet, which could put the F-35 back on the table.www.defensenews.com
“Dassault is not ready to accept Airbus as a partner on equal terms,” he told Defense News. “They are saying, ‘We’ll do FCAS, but only by our rules.’”
With Dassault’s export order books for its Rafale fighter full, the company may see less reason to agree on an FCAS fighter and focus on upgrades for its own jet instead, Brandl argued. In that sense, German talk of of an F-35 buy may serve as a fall-back option, he added.
@Picdelamirand-oil what does it means? You will only upgrade Rafale and will not pursue FCAS?
Unlike the need for more Rafales for the IAF, there's no pressing imperative for the IN at the moment. Just a month back the IN chief publicly declared that the TEDBF would be the only acquisition on the cards as far as future plans goes. Then out of the blue comes this development. Make out of it what you will.
It will cost them less than if they had to pay half the bill resulting from cooperation with Germany and on top of that they will have a better product.
The thing is that we have given them ground, again and again and again. And every time the result was that they asked for more ground. At some point you've gotta stop.
Look into how much the UK, Germany, Italy, and Spain each paid for the Typhoon program. Make the sum total of all four countries' investment. Then compare with how much France paid for the Rafale program. That should show you two things:
There was a french-german agreement : the FCAS will be lead by Dassault and the futur MBT lead by germany. It's just what Dassault want to realize. Not to make the Eurofighter mess again.New German government revisits Tornado replacement options
Germany is once again weighing its options for replacing the country’s aging Tornado aircraft fleet, which could put the F-35 back on the table.
“Dassault is not ready to accept Airbus as a partner on equal terms,” he told Defense News. “They are saying, ‘We’ll do FCAS, but only by our rules.’”
With Dassault’s export order books for its Rafale fighter full, the company may see less reason to agree on an FCAS fighter and focus on upgrades for its own jet instead, Brandl argued. In that sense, German talk of of an F-35 buy may serve as a fall-back option, he added.
@Picdelamirand-oil what does it means? You will only upgrade Rafale and will not pursue FCAS?
No, if it were possible I would be in favour of it, I think it would have a better chance of succeeding than with Germany. But there's a big problem with India's costing of developments, which leads to delays every time the budget is exceeded.
Government is acting against india & its intrest. No one will ready to transfer or manufacture existing technology to any other country. I beleive Pakistani military topbrass will have a party today.
Rafale IS CUTTING EDGE
Before discussing anything about it, first somebody has to propose this joint venture in to the table, till this time neither France or India had proposed it.
Before our President's visit to India in December 2017, I had written to Macron for him to propose French assistance for the development of your AMCA with explanations on the interest of the approach. To my great surprise, the President's office gave me an official reply saying that my suggestion was taken into account, and I have since noticed that this possible help was one of the questions asked in the MRFA's RFI. The evolution of this type of approach if the MRFA were to come to fruition would be to push even further into cooperation on the SCAF.
