S-400 'Triumf' News & Discussion

Rajput Lion said:
Both Russia and India would ensure that it won't happen. Also both India and China own SU30, but both versions are quite different. May be our S400 system is also quite different from theirs.
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Russians usually sell 🐒 models to rest of the world same goes for US & other countries....for e.g S 400 92N6E MFR has a 240 km Detection range against a 4 mt² target 👇

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while the one used by Russians 92H6A has double the range for same size target 👇

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Innominate said:
GMLRS are hard to detect and maneuver when heading towards target the same goes for ATACMS. ATACMS are big but don't fly like ballistic missile unlike Tochka-U and Iskander's. S-400s have the problem firs gen Patriot missiles had in Desert Storm and that is it's hitting Tochka's in terminal phase as it breaks up and S400 being a blastfrag missile it's more than likely it's not detonating the warhead. Tochka's are responsible for a few ammo dump Booms and sinking of Russian naval ship. It also hit Belgorod airbase. Somehow Ukraine has been able to make inaccurate soviet era Tochka's to be very accurate.

This is the old cluster ATACMS which also has high G maneuverability.
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S 400 shot down a maneuvering Iskander M pulling much higher G than ATACM in it's terminal stage right in front of IAF evaluation team during testing.....S 400 isn't suited & doesn't have the numbers to intercept every GMLRS salvo & despite that multiple GMLRS have been shot down by Russian forces.
u need something like Iron dome ,David Sling, C RAM to deal with such threats.
 
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South block said:
Russians usually sell 🐒 models to rest of the world same goes for US & other countries....for e.g S 400 92N6E MFR has a 240 km Detection range against a 4 mt² target 👇

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while the one used by Russians 92H6A has double the range for same size target 👇

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S 400 shot down a maneuvering Iskander M pulling much higher G than ATACM in it's terminal stage right in front of IAF evaluation team during testing.....S 400 isn't suited & doesn't have the numbers to intercept every GMLRS salvo & despite that multiple GMLRS have been shot down by Russian forces.
u need something like Iron dome ,David Sling, C RAM to deal with such threats.
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Yes they do, but not to India. Indian SU30MKI was more advance than anything Russia operated at that time.
 
South block said:
Russians usually sell 🐒 models to rest of the world same goes for US & other countries....for e.g S 400 92N6E MFR has a 240 km Detection range against a 4 mt² target 👇

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while the one used by Russians 92H6A has double the range for same size target 👇

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S 400 shot down a maneuvering Iskander M pulling much higher G than ATACM in it's terminal stage right in front of IAF evaluation team during testing.....S 400 isn't suited & doesn't have the numbers to intercept every GMLRS salvo & despite that multiple GMLRS have been shot down by Russian forces.
u need something like Iron dome ,David Sling, C RAM to deal with such threats.
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Where's the video? Where are ANY videos of s400 hitting a ballistic missile warhead like there is of Pac-3, THAAD, SM3, SM6 and ground base missile defense?
 
is there a breakdown of what radar system & missiles we have bought for S 400 ?
Innominate said:
Where's the video? Where are ANY videos of s400 hitting a ballistic missile warhead like there is of Pac-3, THAAD, SM3, SM6 and ground base missile defense?
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Where's the video of David Sling intercepting Iskander M ? where's the video of THAAD SM3, SM6 intercepting Yars, Sarmat ICBM ? Wake me up when Ukraine manage to shoot down even one Iskander
 
South block said:
Where's the video of David Sling intercepting Iskander M ? where's the video of THAAD SM3, SM6 intercepting Yars, Sarmat ICBM ? Wake me up when Ukraine manage to shoot down even one Iskander
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:rolleyes: Proof that S-400 hit a maneuvering Iskander warhead pulling 30gs. Russia has never put out a video of S400 test taking out any incoming ballistic missile warhead but there's plenty of videos of US test just like these....

Here is video of real live combat of PAC 3...
www.youtube.com

Patriot Missile system intercepting incoming missiles over Riyadh Saudi Arabia

Patriot Missile system intercepting incoming missiles over Riyadh Saudi ArabiaSaudi ArabiapatriotRiyadh
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com

Here is video of SM6 test...

THAAD test..

SM3 test...

There's also video of ground based interceptors taking out warheads in test but I hope you get the point. Not one video of Russian S400 taking out a warhead in test I find that very odd.
 

Innominate said:
:rolleyes: Proof that S-400 hit a maneuvering Iskander warhead pulling 30gs. Russia has never put out a video of S400 test taking out any incoming ballistic missile warhead but there's plenty of videos of US test just like these....

Here is video of real live combat of PAC 3...
www.youtube.com

Patriot Missile system intercepting incoming missiles over Riyadh Saudi Arabia

Patriot Missile system intercepting incoming missiles over Riyadh Saudi ArabiaSaudi ArabiapatriotRiyadh
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com

Here is video of SM6 test...

THAAD test..

SM3 test...

There's also video of ground based interceptors taking out warheads in test but I hope you get the point. Not one video of Russian S400 taking out a warhead in test I find that very odd.
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all under control conditions....most of these tests are against non maneuvering warheads or missiles. Let Ukrainian intercept even one Iskander maneuvering at 35 G
 
South block said:
all under control conditions....
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Just like the suppose s400 test against the suppose Iskander, right? :rolleyes:
South block said:
most of these tests are against non maneuvering warheads or missiles. Let Ukrainian intercept even one Iskander maneuvering at 35 G
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Well Ukraine has to get their hands on PAC3 systems don't they now?

Lol. Btw PAC3, SM-6 , SM-2 and just about every modern surface to air missile is capable of 50Gs+.
 
Innominate said:
Lol. Btw PAC3, SM-6 , SM-2 and just about every modern surface to air missile is capable of 50Gs+.
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Let the Ukrainian intercept even one Iskander first & pulling 50 G+ doesn't guarantee 100 % intercpetion 😜.... pulling double the speed + G against target does 🙂
 
marich01 said:
Local prod is a way to bypass any international issue. Hopefully future deals happen in jv way.
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Sooner or later, Russia will be under pressure from China, not pass any critical technology to India, just like US did during 90s.
 
Bali78 said:
Sooner or later, Russia will be under pressure from China, not pass any critical technology to India, just like US did during 90s.
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China also building many missile silos much to Rus disliking and they have kept eyes on that despite how much close relationship they share, and they will also take security matter as priority ie, a land border sharing country building first strike capability will always be countered with some geopolitical decision. The threat of chinese expansion is as much like we face, same goes for Rus too. Its a game of balancing power.
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1643984599327059969

I've a feeling the remaining 5 modules if they come won't be the S-400 but the S-500 Prometheus system.
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S-500 is for ABM purpose, S-400 is to tackle stealth fighters and all. We need more S-400s and XRSAMs to make sure that J-20 is unable to intrude inside our airspace. We already have got the terrain advantage. If we can nullify the VLO advantage of PLAAF, then it turns the air war completely in our favour.
 
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