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Shivalik-class & Nilgiri-class (Project 17 A/B) Frigates : Discussions
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Means its more for a warning shot, am i right.
76mm cannot be used for air defense. 30mm gatling gun will be ideal for that. I am also saying the same, if we install ak630 in place of 76mm we can effectively use for anti aircraft aswell as approaching vessels too.
Our current crop of ships are based on older designs. Like the destroyers are all based on a design made in the 80s. We need new class of ships that can meet your expectations.
Anyway, our destroyers and frigates are adequately armed for fighting at sea.
76mm was a very common calibre for air defence.
AK-630 maxes out at 5Km, while the 76mm can fire all the way up to 40Km.
You will not use 40km range for accurate firing. A few 60km range missile can do better surfaces to surface job than artillery shell when comes to anti ship role.
I know that already and I wasn't talking about current ships that are already in service but the ones that are under development i.e. P17A FFGs and P 15B DDGs.
Yeah, against Pakistan may be.
I am referring to those ships you named. They are all modifications of older ships. The A, B, etc are all the same hull designs. The number has to change for a brand new class.
We need entirely new classes to get what you want.
Why don't you look up the actual anti-ship capabilities of other ships?
The P17A has a completely different hull design compared to P 17s.
They are new classes.
You mean other ships like Arleigh Burke or Type 052D?? Yeah, I've looked up their weapon loadouts which happen to be better by orders of magnitude, thank you very much.
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Are u sure about p17a & p15b? I think tgese ships having common hull w.r.t their former classes.
Our frigates & destroyers are just match for pakistan, against other players i doubt it. Countries like Japan, S Korea & china have very potent surface fleets. Its high time for us invest more on navy.
I think our war planners are too much depending upon Brahmos for tge naval solution.
The shore bombardment is now taken care of by aircraft after the introduction of aircraft carriers. The WW-1 ships did not have air compliment and needed big guns.
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P 15B shares the same hull configuration with its predecessor but P 17As are different as far as I can recall or at least they are supposed to be.
I agree wholeheartedly.
And Barak 8 and there won't be any problem with that, really except for their pitiful numbers per ship!!
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Sir what is the present scenario? Are we really need such gun in a ship. Atleast we can remove it from Guided missile destroyers & frigate.
Brahmos is an old platform, we have to start new type of smart missiles. Norwegian NSM & upcoming agm158c or its ship variants are good examples. Its EW counter measures matters in modern warfare.
Yes, you're right but that's no excuse for sticking to the same old loadout as its predecessor instead of upgrading it to a more modern standard which would be appropriate for its tonnage, in my humble opinion that is.
A gun remains the most effective method to deal with small high speed boats and merchant ships. They can also be used to fire at a selected place on a ship to avoid sinking the whole ship as IN did in Operation cactus. We used 30mm guns to cripple the ship and finally just twp shots of 4-5inch gun were sufficient to sink it.
Smart ammo with longer engagement ranges are now coming up. So would be much cheaper to use a guided smart projectile against a target at say 25-30km away than using a missile.
However as of now our Navy has no such programs. The upcoming 127mm on P15B will be a looker though.
Probably Malaysian Navy ship.
India, Malaysia undertake joint naval exercise
India and Malaysia undertook a joint naval military exercise to test inter-operability of their navies in South East Asia and Western Pacific regions.
Excellent - Needed a Start PointProbably Malaysian Navy ship.
India, Malaysia undertake joint naval exercise
India and Malaysia undertook a joint naval military exercise to test inter-operability of their navies in South East Asia and Western Pacific regions.www.indiatoday.in
Found it - RMN Kedah Class - Offshore Patrol Vessel
