Shivalik-class & Nilgiri-class (Project 17 A/B) Frigates : Discussions

Keel laid for the third stealth frigate of Project 17A
Posted On: 10 SEP 2020 6:49PM by PIB Delhi

Vice Admiral S R Sarma – COM & CWP&A of the Indian Navy and Shri V L Kantha Rao Additional Secretary (Defence Production) laid the keel of the third ship (Yard- 12653) of the prestigious P17A class stealth frigates on 10 Sep 2020. The keel laying ceremony was conducted through an e-platform in the presence of Vice Admiral R B Pandit, Chief of Staff, HQWNC and Vice Admiral Narayan Prasad (IN Retd.) – CMD MDL.

Seven frigates under P17A series will be constructed of which four are being constructed in MDL and three in GRSE with MDL as the lead yard. The P17A class frigates are being built using indigenously developed steel and fitted with weapons and sensors along with Integrated Platform Management System. These ships are having stealth features.

Construction of P17A ships differ in the very concept of warship building by way of adoption of the modern technology ‘Integrated Construction (IC)’ where the blocks are pre-outfitted before joining to reduce the build period of warships. When commissioned the platforms will enhance the combat capability of the Indian Naval fleet.

The function was attended by Rear Admiral G K Harish, DGND, Commodore T V Thomas (IN Retd.), Director (CP&P), MDL, Rear Admiral A K Saxena (IN Retd.), Director (Shipbuilding), Commander Jasbir Singh (IN Retd.), Director (S&HE), MDL, Shri Sanjeev Singhal, Director (Finance), MDL , Shri Mahesh Chandra, CVO, MDL alongwith senior executives from MDL & Navy through an e-ceremony including the Warship Overseeing Team.

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Keel laid for the third stealth frigate of Project 17A
Posted On: 10 SEP 2020 6:49PM by PIB Delhi

Vice Admiral S R Sarma – COM & CWP&A of the Indian Navy and Shri V L Kantha Rao Additional Secretary (Defence Production) laid the keel of the third ship (Yard- 12653) of the prestigious P17A class stealth frigates on 10 Sep 2020. The keel laying ceremony was conducted through an e-platform in the presence of Vice Admiral R B Pandit, Chief of Staff, HQWNC and Vice Admiral Narayan Prasad (IN Retd.) – CMD MDL.

Seven frigates under P17A series will be constructed of which four are being constructed in MDL and three in GRSE with MDL as the lead yard. The P17A class frigates are being built using indigenously developed steel and fitted with weapons and sensors along with Integrated Platform Management System. These ships are having stealth features.

Construction of P17A ships differ in the very concept of warship building by way of adoption of the modern technology ‘Integrated Construction (IC)’ where the blocks are pre-outfitted before joining to reduce the build period of warships. When commissioned the platforms will enhance the combat capability of the Indian Naval fleet.

The function was attended by Rear Admiral G K Harish, DGND, Commodore T V Thomas (IN Retd.), Director (CP&P), MDL, Rear Admiral A K Saxena (IN Retd.), Director (Shipbuilding), Commander Jasbir Singh (IN Retd.), Director (S&HE), MDL, Shri Sanjeev Singhal, Director (Finance), MDL , Shri Mahesh Chandra, CVO, MDL alongwith senior executives from MDL & Navy through an e-ceremony including the Warship Overseeing Team.

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Goa Shipyard begins production of stealth frigates for Navy, delivery likely by 2026

By TNN
Sep 22, 2020, 04:41 IST

Panaji: Goa Shipyard Ltd on Monday commenced production of the two guided missile frigates, which are being built in collaboration with Russia’s Yantar Shipyard for the Indian Navy. GSL expects to deliver the first ship to the Navy by 2026.

Though the frigates are based on a Russian design, they will have significant indigenous content, including an Indian-built radar, sonar systems and sensors, communication suites and anti-ship BrahMos missile systems. Initiating the production process, vice chief of naval staff, Vice Admiral G Ashok Kumar said that the frigates would help the Navy meet maritime challenges.

India and Russia entered into a government to government agreement for four stealth frigates, with two being built in Russia and two at Goa Shipyard. The stealth frigate project is the largest contract in GSL’s history and represents a quantum leap in the shipyard’s capabilities. “These two frigates will put GSL in a different league because this is the first time that frigates are being constructed at the yard,” said Kumar. Once completed, the two frigates will be advanced variants of the Talwar-class stealth frigates that are already in service with the Indian Navy.

“The project will provide a significant boost to the indigenous shipbuilding sector in Goa and across the nation creating employment opportunities. We are expanding our vendor base three-fold to over 1,000 entities to encourage MSME participation in the project,” said chairman and managing director of GSL B B Nagpal.

 
This is interesting, but which one ?

Just my guesswork. The sonar is HUMSA-NG most probably.

For radars the Talwar class uses the :

1. Fregat for targeting : Can be replaced by a BEL Revathi 3-D E/F-band radar

2. Garpun for volume search : Can be replaced by RAWL-03 L band radar

3. Puma for FCR : BEL Lynx U1 FCR and BEL APARNA
 
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Goa Shipyard begins production of stealth frigates for Navy, delivery likely by 2026

By TNN
Sep 22, 2020, 04:41 IST

Panaji: Goa Shipyard Ltd on Monday commenced production of the two guided missile frigates, which are being built in collaboration with Russia’s Yantar Shipyard for the Indian Navy. GSL expects to deliver the first ship to the Navy by 2026.

Though the frigates are based on a Russian design, they will have significant indigenous content, including an Indian-built radar, sonar systems and sensors, communication suites and anti-ship BrahMos missile systems. Initiating the production process, vice chief of naval staff, Vice Admiral G Ashok Kumar said that the frigates would help the Navy meet maritime challenges.

India and Russia entered into a government to government agreement for four stealth frigates, with two being built in Russia and two at Goa Shipyard. The stealth frigate project is the largest contract in GSL’s history and represents a quantum leap in the shipyard’s capabilities. “These two frigates will put GSL in a different league because this is the first time that frigates are being constructed at the yard,” said Kumar. Once completed, the two frigates will be advanced variants of the Talwar-class stealth frigates that are already in service with the Indian Navy.

“The project will provide a significant boost to the indigenous shipbuilding sector in Goa and across the nation creating employment opportunities. We are expanding our vendor base three-fold to over 1,000 entities to encourage MSME participation in the project,” said chairman and managing director of GSL B B Nagpal.

6 years for an around 4k ton frigate.just when i was thinking things are finally changing.smh
 
Isnt p17a grse's first attempt at a 6k+ ton ship as well?...yet they its still 4-5 years for them.
Fact is someone must have had the bright idea to not use modular construction for these ships

Actually, it's both MDL's and GRSE's first attempt at modular construction. MDL also has the P-15B in parallel following modular construction though.
 
Do you know what is mazagon's time frame for upcoming destroyers? China would build an aircraft carrier with same time frame

China also has enough orders to manage workers for all three shifts. When we build 4 ships, they build 20.

We will get there soon enough though, as we get richer.
 
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Afaik p15b isnt following modular construction method.

I haven't checked it myself, but MDL's modular construction capabilities becoming available and the P-15Bs keel laying began at around the same time.

According to MDL, they said they need 6 years to build a destroyer and 5 years to build a frigate using modular construction. And both P-15B and P-17A seem to be following such timelines.
 
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I haven't checked it myself, but MDL's modular construction capabilities becoming available and the P-15Bs keel laying began at around the same time.

According to MDL, they said they need 6 years to build a destroyer and 5 years to build a frigate using modular construction. And both P-15B and P-17A seem to be following such timelines.
Here's p15b's keel laying ceremony.notice how small the part is compared to the p17a's module .IMO even if they are using modular construction both arnt same.
 

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Here's p15b's keel laying ceremony.notice how small the part is compared to the p17a's module .IMO even if they are using modular construction both arnt same.

I don't know much about ship constuction, so I don't know how to tell the different processes apart. Maybe even without modular construction they have managed to bring the destroyer time down to 6 years.
 
A shivalik class frigate in jakarta Indonesia The pic is apparently from sep 26. Did media report about any navy ship visiting indonesia back then.
 

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A shivalik class frigate in jakarta Indonesia The pic is apparently from sep 26. Did media report about any navy ship visiting indonesia back then.
Where did you get it ? I don't recall any such news being put out by Indian media. Wasn't this during the Indonesia-China naval stand off ?