Shivalik-class & Nilgiri-class (Project 17 A/B) Frigates : Discussions

KEEL LAYING FOR SECOND FRIGATE OF P11356 PROJECT AT GOA SHIPYARD LIMITED​

Keel of the second frigate of additional follow-on ship of Project 1135.6 for the Indian Navy was ceremoniously laid on 18 Jun 2021 by Vice Adm G Ashok Kumar, Vice Chief of Naval Staff.


The ships under construction at Goa Shipyard Ltd (GSL) are part of indigenous shipbuilding program being executed under Inter Governmental Agreement with Russian Side for construction of two advanced frigates for the Indian Navy. The contract was signed on 25 January 2019 between Ministry of Defence and Goa Shipyard Limited. Keel Laying is a major milestone activity in the construction of any ship symbolising formal commencement of the construction process. Keel for the first ship was laid on 29 Jan 2021. The first ship would be delivered in 2026 and second ship subsequently after 06 months.


The ceremony was held virtually in the presence of Vice Admiral Kiran Deshmukh, Controller Warship Production & Acquisition (CWP&A), Cmde Sanjay Shrivastava, Cmde (SP), Cmde B B Nagpal (Retd), Chairman and Managing Director, GSL, Directors, and other senior officials of the Indian Navy and GSL.


Speaking on the occasion, Chief Guest Vice Adm G Ashok Kumar appreciated the efforts put in by the Shipyard in achieving this milestone despite COVID constraints. He highlighted that it was for the first time that these vessels, with such technological complexity, were being constructed indigenously at GSL and marked an important milestone in our journey towards Atma Nirbhar Bharat and Make in India initiative. He further added that a large number of major equipment are being substituted with indigenous equivalents, in addition to use of significant indigenous build material. The entire hulls of the ships are also being built with indigenous steel. He also highlighted major achievements of the Shipyard and commended the professionalism displayed by employees of GSL.


During his address, CMD-GSL highlighted various challenges faced by the Shipyard in executing this complex shipbuilding project. Despite challenges posed by the ongoing pandemic, the Shipyard continued the production activities with active support of employees and innovative solutions. He thanked the Indian Navy for their unstinted support and reiterated GSL’s commitment to cater for the requirement of Maritime Defence Forces through indigenous shipbuilding.


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A Talwar class frigate (INS Teg, i guess) with ATLAS Electronik Advanced Towed Array System (ATAS):
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A few years ago, I saw reports that there had been procedural delays in acquiring 9 of these bad bois. Looks like they finally arrived, because I'm pretty sure I saw a Kolkata-class with one equipped as well. Anyone has anymore pics or reports?
And what the hell happened with DRDO's indigenous towed array sonar?
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Updates on the Nilgiri class frigates via some pics from GRSE:

Work on all 3 ships that were to be built at GRSE has begun. The 1st ship INS Himgiri has been launched in December 2020. The other 2 ships are being constructed in their drydocks.

The ship being built in Yard no. 3023 was laid down in January 2020. Work seems to have progressed well despite the pandemic. This ship is expected to be launched in July 2022.
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The ship being built at Yard no. 3024 was laid down in March 2021, right at the end of the 1st wave of the pandemic. Predictably work hasn't progressed very far. This ship is expected to be launched by mid or late 2023.
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Besides the GRSE, MDL has also launched 1 ship & is building 2 right now. Work on the 4th ship to be built at MDL has not yet begun.

Size comparison between a Kamorta class ASW corvette (3300 tons) & a Shivalik class frigate (6200 tons).
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2 Shikalik class frigates at HSL, Vizag:
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I wonder what modernization package the Russians are offering. In the ongoing ARMY expo in Russia they have apparently offered the Palash CIWS to replace the AK630s that the Navy uses in the entire fleet. 3 of the Talwars have the 630, other 3 use the Kashtan CIWS.

Obviously there would be the Shtil-1 VLS on offer replacing the old arm launchers. Maybe without the arm launchers missile count can be increased from 24 to 32. I don't think the Talwars have much space for more cruise missiles, unless you get rid of the RBUs. The main gun can be upgrade from 100mm to 130mm, won't make a huge difference though.
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That's all that comes to mind really. The Talwars are already pretty well equipped. The Russians could offer Redut series SAMs instead of Shtil. I doubt the Navy would like to add yet another SAM to their collection. the Navy could be interested in better radars though.
 
I wonder what modernization package the Russians are offering. In the ongoing ARMY expo in Russia they have apparently offered the Palash CIWS to replace the AK630s that the Navy uses in the entire fleet. 3 of the Talwars have the 630, other 3 use the Kashtan CIWS.

Obviously there would be the Shtil-1 VLS on offer replacing the old arm launchers. Maybe without the arm launchers missile count can be increased from 24 to 32. I don't think the Talwars have much space for more cruise missiles, unless you get rid of the RBUs. The main gun can be upgrade from 100mm to 130mm, won't make a huge difference though.
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That's all that comes to mind really. The Talwars are already pretty well equipped. The Russians could offer Redut series SAMs instead of Shtil. I doubt the Navy would like to add yet another SAM to their collection. the Navy could be interested in better radars though.

I would advice the Navy to ask for KALIBR missiles 🤣
 
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I wonder what modernization package the Russians are offering. In the ongoing ARMY expo in Russia they have apparently offered the Palash CIWS to replace the AK630s that the Navy uses in the entire fleet. 3 of the Talwars have the 630, other 3 use the Kashtan CIWS.

Obviously there would be the Shtil-1 VLS on offer replacing the old arm launchers. Maybe without the arm launchers missile count can be increased from 24 to 32. I don't think the Talwars have much space for more cruise missiles, unless you get rid of the RBUs. The main gun can be upgrade from 100mm to 130mm, won't make a huge difference though.
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That's all that comes to mind really. The Talwars are already pretty well equipped. The Russians could offer Redut series SAMs instead of Shtil. I doubt the Navy would like to add yet another SAM to their collection. the Navy could be interested in better radars though.

Gotta keep it simple. Get the same stuff that's coming with the 4 new Talwars.
 
The ship being built in Yard no. 3023 was laid down in January 2020. Work seems to have progressed well despite the pandemic. This ship is expected to be launched in July 2022.
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Used to wonder how they worked around the non-availability of the larger goliath cranes when working with larger modules of P17A. The one for the modernized drydock/ slipway collapsed due to a cyclone & it wasn't ever installed for this drydock. Finally, found out how. At the center of this pic, near those two trees.

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Crawler cranes. :cool:
 
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So many ATLAS Electronik ACTAS systems in so many of our frigates - frickin' awesome!
A huge capability void plugged, imo.....
 
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