Shivalik Class (Project 17 A/B) & Talwar Class Frigates
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With 1st Payment This Month, Russia To Deliver 2 Advanced Talwar Class Frigates In 2022
Shiv Aroor Jul 09 2019, 5:29 pm
Russia’s Yantar Shipyard will complete and deliver two Advanced Talwar class (Project 11356) frigates to the Indian Navy by end 2022, with India’s first payment instalment in the $950 million deal expected this month.
While preparation of the 2 hulls has been on in fits and starts since 2016, full-scale work will be triggered at one of Russia’s oldest shipyards on the Baltic coast with the first contractual payments arriving soon.
Sporting 22 Indian-built systems that will differentiate them from the six earlier Talwar-class ships, the new vessels will add significantly to the Indian Navy’s frontline fleet at a time when its resources stand stretched with expanding responsibilities in the Indian Ocean region, particularly the Gulf.
The ships, based on two old hulls that the Russian Navy was forced to walk away from, will be followed by two more that will be built under license by India’s state-owned Goa Shipyard Ltd. The propulsion systems have now been directly contracted by India (the same as those that power the earlier Talwar class ships) and will be supplied to Yantar by the Indian government, said Yantar Shipyard General Director Eduard Efimov today.
The shipyard is currently waiting on technical documentation from the ship’s designer, the Severnoye Design Bureau before beginning the process of procuring equipment to fit out the ship. Next month, the two hulls will be lifted out of the water and onto a slipway for fitment of early equipment, including the gas turbines.
Indian equipment on the Advanced Talwar class ships will include navigational equipment, combat management system, surface surveillance radar and the DRDO HUMSA sonar.
The four ships that will be built in India and Russia add to a fleet of six Russian-built Talwar class frigates, all currently in frontline operations.
Interestingly, the two ships to be built under license at Goa Shipyard will differ in their ‘technical design’ from the two under construction at Yantar, Efimov said, indicating that this was a result of significantly different manufacturing processes at Yantar and Goa Shipyard. The technical design documents for the Goa-built ships are to be finalised soon by Severnoye Design Bureau separately.
”Goa Shipyard is more than ready to make these ships on site. Our technical team has conducted a full study and this is their conclusion,” says Efimov, who will, by early next year, send a high-level technical team to provide technical assistance for the Indian build.
An Indian Navy team will visit Yantar later this year once the first two hulls have been lifted out of the water to monitor the first phase of equipping. Once fitted with equipment, the ships will begin a process of trials next year — harbour acceptance trials, harbour sea trials and finally user acceptance trials before formal delivery to the Indian Navy.
The Indian Navy also operates 3 Indian-designed and built Shivalik-class (Project 17) stealth frigates, with seven of an improved P17A type planned.
https://www.livefistdefence.com/201...2-advanced-talwar-class-frigates-in-2022.html
Shiv Aroor Jul 09 2019, 5:29 pm
Russia’s Yantar Shipyard will complete and deliver two Advanced Talwar class (Project 11356) frigates to the Indian Navy by end 2022, with India’s first payment instalment in the $950 million deal expected this month.
While preparation of the 2 hulls has been on in fits and starts since 2016, full-scale work will be triggered at one of Russia’s oldest shipyards on the Baltic coast with the first contractual payments arriving soon.
Sporting 22 Indian-built systems that will differentiate them from the six earlier Talwar-class ships, the new vessels will add significantly to the Indian Navy’s frontline fleet at a time when its resources stand stretched with expanding responsibilities in the Indian Ocean region, particularly the Gulf.
The ships, based on two old hulls that the Russian Navy was forced to walk away from, will be followed by two more that will be built under license by India’s state-owned Goa Shipyard Ltd. The propulsion systems have now been directly contracted by India (the same as those that power the earlier Talwar class ships) and will be supplied to Yantar by the Indian government, said Yantar Shipyard General Director Eduard Efimov today.
The shipyard is currently waiting on technical documentation from the ship’s designer, the Severnoye Design Bureau before beginning the process of procuring equipment to fit out the ship. Next month, the two hulls will be lifted out of the water and onto a slipway for fitment of early equipment, including the gas turbines.
Indian equipment on the Advanced Talwar class ships will include navigational equipment, combat management system, surface surveillance radar and the DRDO HUMSA sonar.
The four ships that will be built in India and Russia add to a fleet of six Russian-built Talwar class frigates, all currently in frontline operations.
Interestingly, the two ships to be built under license at Goa Shipyard will differ in their ‘technical design’ from the two under construction at Yantar, Efimov said, indicating that this was a result of significantly different manufacturing processes at Yantar and Goa Shipyard. The technical design documents for the Goa-built ships are to be finalised soon by Severnoye Design Bureau separately.
”Goa Shipyard is more than ready to make these ships on site. Our technical team has conducted a full study and this is their conclusion,” says Efimov, who will, by early next year, send a high-level technical team to provide technical assistance for the Indian build.
An Indian Navy team will visit Yantar later this year once the first two hulls have been lifted out of the water to monitor the first phase of equipping. Once fitted with equipment, the ships will begin a process of trials next year — harbour acceptance trials, harbour sea trials and finally user acceptance trials before formal delivery to the Indian Navy.
The Indian Navy also operates 3 Indian-designed and built Shivalik-class (Project 17) stealth frigates, with seven of an improved P17A type planned.
https://www.livefistdefence.com/201...2-advanced-talwar-class-frigates-in-2022.html
India receives first BrahMos missiles for Project 1135.6 frigates
Nikolai Novichkov, Moscow - Jane's Navy International
25 July 2019
The Indian Navy (IN) has begun receiving BrahMos sea-launched cruise missiles (SLCMs) for its Talwar (Project 1135.6)-class frigates, Russian CEO of BrahMos Aerospace, Alexander Maksichev, has told Jane’s .
“The IN has started repair and modernisation of the Talwar Project 1135.6 type ships that were built at the Baltic Shipyard,” said Maksichev, in reference to the first three ships in the Talwar class. “These platforms will have their Klub-N strike missiles replaced by the BrahMos SLCM,” said Maksichev.
According to him, BrahMos Aerospace will supply an eight-cell vertical launch system (VLS) and a shipborne control unit to be integrated with the frigate.
India receives first BrahMos missiles for Project 1135.6 frigates | Jane's 360
Nikolai Novichkov, Moscow - Jane's Navy International
25 July 2019
The Indian Navy (IN) has begun receiving BrahMos sea-launched cruise missiles (SLCMs) for its Talwar (Project 1135.6)-class frigates, Russian CEO of BrahMos Aerospace, Alexander Maksichev, has told Jane’s .
“The IN has started repair and modernisation of the Talwar Project 1135.6 type ships that were built at the Baltic Shipyard,” said Maksichev, in reference to the first three ships in the Talwar class. “These platforms will have their Klub-N strike missiles replaced by the BrahMos SLCM,” said Maksichev.
According to him, BrahMos Aerospace will supply an eight-cell vertical launch system (VLS) and a shipborne control unit to be integrated with the frigate.
India receives first BrahMos missiles for Project 1135.6 frigates | Jane's 360
Still need to know
1) Is the SAM Launcher Arm is been replaced by the VLS System?
2) The Kasthan CIWS is been replaced by the AK630/Barak -1 Combo? - (As seen in the second flight of the Talwar Class)
That is part of the upgrade. The SAM is probably the Shtil-1 missile.
Maybe, I don't know frankly. It would be beneficial logistically, given the sheer number of Barak-1 we use.
INS Shivalik launching a 9M317 surface to air missile which is a part of 3S-90 Shtil-1 System
The keel of the first P-17A was laid on 10th November 2018. The launch is on 28th September 2019.
So build time for the float segment(hull no superstructure) was effectively 10 months and 18 days.
Let's see how long the rest of it takes.
Oh by the way, WTH happened to the Vizag class destroyers ?
So build time for the float segment(hull no superstructure) was effectively 10 months and 18 days.
Let's see how long the rest of it takes.
Oh by the way, WTH happened to the Vizag class destroyers ?
Nope, you are mixing MDL and GRSE.
Check page #1
Contract sign - 20 Feb 2015 (Both shipyards asked two-year long preparation time)
Steel cutting - 16 Feb 2017
Keel laid - 28 Dec 2017
Launch - 16 Sep 2019
Expected Delivery - 2022
Interesting. The mast looks different in the background pic compared to the Kolkata class.
Oopsie.........my bad.
That CGI has been used before. But the models displayed to various shows have the same mast as the P-15A/B. Not sure what to make of it. Maybe this is the design and they are too lazy to change the models or maybe the models are right and the CGI is not.
Probably a company was hired to make the poster design, and they made whatever they wanted. Would be nice to see a new design though.
