Small Arms & Tactical Equipment

No arrangements they will hold the IP themselves not hard to get just like how they hold IP for their AR
Armalite's IP rights over the AR-10 & AR-15 has long expired. The B&T SMG was introduced in the early 2010s. Shouldn't they have IP rights over the design for another decade or so ?
9mm they say it fires fine with imported ammo but has trouble with Indian OFB 9mm(could be ammo quality issue) and they are working towards solving it hence didn't take part in trails
Oh..I see.
 
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Armalite's IP rights over the AR-10 & AR-15 has long expired. The B&T SMG was introduced in the early 2010s. Shouldn't they have IP rights over the design for another decade or so ?
It isn't as obv clone it's the same situation as what people do with leaked Scar blueprints like what Astr guys did with their rifle (It changed somewhat rn but no clue about its status) and same as what people do with Glock and their Clones Us has plenty of their Clones "Same Same but different".
 
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9 Para SF have been pressed into Udhampur today.
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Looks like Armasen's SF rigs are becoming increasingly common in the field.

In other news, Solar Group/EEL is the L1 in the NSG procurement of 3K units of the frags. They've purchased 2K units in the past. Solar/EEL is also the sole bidder in the SSB's RFP of 28,128 MMHGs after MIL got disqualified.
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From the twitter discussion, seems horizontal recoil is less.
Recoil is ok. The gun has a muzzle brake to reduce recoil. The gun seems to be moving around a lot because of the crouched firing stance.

Muzzle brakes are great in open spaces. But in tight spaces, like say in a CQB mission, muzzle brakes will cause a spray of burning gasses at anyone who stands a little close to the gun.
 
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@ small arms specialists, please decode what's good in this video..
From the twitter discussion, seems horizontal recoil is less.

Recoil is ok. The gun has a muzzle brake to reduce recoil. The gun seems to be moving around a lot because of the crouched firing stance.

Muzzle brakes are great in open spaces. But in tight spaces, like say in a CQB mission, muzzle brakes will cause a spray of burning gasses at anyone who stands a little close to the gun.

And it seems they're sticking with the freefloat handguard.

But more importantly, they're keeping at it with continuous iterative improvements. Really hope they end up getting orders from someone (Military/CAPFs/Police).
 
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And it seems they're sticking with the freefloat handguard.

But more importantly, they're keeping at it with continuous iterative improvements. Really hope they end up getting orders from someone (Military/CAPFs/Police).
Agreed.

How much time do you think it will take our guys to start adopting more modern firing stances? Crouched firing with elbow on knee is 1980-90s stuff.
 
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Agreed.

How much time do you think it will take our guys to start adopting more modern firing stances? Crouched firing with elbow on knee is 1980-90s stuff.

Infantry regulars have been exercising with US counterparts for nearly two decades and haven't picked up a single thing as far as tactics go. But I reckon that's because the SOPs in the regular Army are very rigid and change is very much a top-down affair. If there is to be change there, we're gonna have to wait for those who were at Lt. level in the 2010s to make it to Lt. Gen. and be in a position to change things...that might still be a decade away.

In comparison, evolution is much more rapid in SFs - especially the Navy's MARCOS. You can see it in both equipment, tactics & stances. For example you'd never see any Indian SF member holding a rifle in High Port a decade ago (far right):

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If there is to be change there, we're gonna have to wait for those who were at Lt. level in the 2010s to make it to Lt. Gen. and be in a position to change things...that might still be a decade away.
These are fixable problems. You can get pvt. contractors to teach infantry tactics. If there is will, we can start today.
In comparison, evolution is much more rapid in SFs - especially the Navy's MARCOS. You can see it in both equipment, tactics & stances. For example you'd never see any Indian SF member holding a rifle in High Port a decade ago (far right):
I am not that worried about SF. They tend to find ways of getting stuff done. What I am worried about is that when these young officers become senour descision makers they will continue walking in the footsteps of their superiors & reform nothing.
 
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Agreed.

How much time do you think it will take our guys to start adopting more modern firing stances? Crouched firing with elbow on knee is 1980-90s stuff.
I prefer gripping at the front of the barrel, this won't happen with the 203s since the handguard is so short :/

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not sure if this is a very modern way but it's the way I was taught. Troops will have to rely on mod kits to extend the handrail or get vertical grips where they can.
 
I prefer gripping at the front of the barrel, this won't happen with the 203s since the handguard is so short :/
All AK series guns have this problem.
Troops will have to rely on mod kits to extend the handrail or get vertical grips where they can.
Yeah, see this is where the problems start. We don't have a culture of encouraging soldiers to modify their guns/equipment in the military. The Army is more rigid in these matters then the rest. The culture is changing slowly with the respective SF units leading the change.

The regular troops are in this weird situation where the Army buys guns with certain accessories & the troops have to use these guns as they were bought till the end of the gun's service life. And the Army don't always make very good choices when it comes to accessories.

For example, the B&T MP7s were purchased with a sling, a suppressor & a Zeiss red dot sight. Pretty good, right? The Army also bought the SIG 716 without any accessories. No red dots/scopes, no muzzle devices, no lasers. With just the iron sights one cannot utilize the full range of this gun.

The same rifle was also bought by NSG, an elite CT unit. The NSG use the SIG716 as a DMR equipped with a high-power scope, bipods etc. They will be able to exploit the full range of that rifle.