Small Arms & Tactical Equipment

The Indian Army’s ‘General Kalashnikov’ gives it a new 9 mm sub-machine gun

For decades, the Indian Army struggled to replace its vintage Sterling carbine, a weapon that entered service in the closing stages of World War 2. The weapon chambered to fire the 9x19 mm cartridge. Over the past 15 years, the has often resorted to piecemeal imports of alternatives like the German H&K MP5, MP9 and the Uzi.

The answer, it turned out, lay within the world’s second largest army. An army officer has designed and produced the first prototypes of a compact 9 mm sub-machine gun. The ‘Asmi’ (pride), as it is called, was designed by Lt Colonel Prasad Bansod of the army’s Mhow-based Infantry school. The prototype weapon was produced in just four months in collaboration with the DRDO’s Pune-based Armament Research and Development Establishment (ARDE). The weapon was tested by firing over 300 rounds each. A smaller, sub-compact version of the weapon weighing less than 1.5 kg is in development. (An empty AK-47 type rifle weighs 3.4 kg). The weapon operates on a simple blowback principle, has a 33-round high-capacity magazine, a range of 100 metres and a rate of fire of 600 rounds per minute. It has an 8-inch barrel and an upper made of aircraft aluminium and a lower made of carbon fibre. The Indian Army is to file a patent for the weapon and is looking for a production partner to mass produce the weapon, recently displayed at an exhibition of indigenous innovations at the Delhi cantonment.

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DRDO, Indian Army develop first indigenous 9mm machine pistol named 'Asmi'

The Asmi will not replace primary assault rifles like the AK-47 and the INSAS which are in frontline service and which fire high-velocity ammunition. It is designed for use as a second-line personal weapon for tank and aircraft crews and in close combat situations like counter-terrorist operations and room interventions, in confined spaces like warships and merchant vessels and by VIP protection forces. Because it fires a subsonic 9x19 mm round, it could potentially find a huge market with the Central Police Organisations, state police forces as well as exports. With a likely production cost of between Rs 40,000 and 50,000 a weapon it is just one-third the cost of imported sub-machine guns like the MP5.

Some of the world’s best small arms have been designed by military personnel. The legendary AK-47 was designed by a tank commander, General Mikhail Kalashnikov, during World War 2. Israel’s iconic Uzi submachine gun was designed by Major Uziel Gal in the late 1940s. Lt Colonel Prasad first caught the attention of army top brass in 2019 when he reverse-engineered an INSAS rifle to produce a ‘bull-pup’ carbine variant, with a shorter barrel. This simple solution seemed to have eluded the original INSAS designers. The failure of the INSAS carbine variant (that was supposed to replace the 9 mm carbine in the 1990s) was one reason for a rush of imports.

Seen from the army perspective, the Asmi is the perfect solution for kitting out their soldiers with new gear like bulletproof jackets and carbines. Top army officials told INDIA TODAY that they want military personnel to drive import substitution technology. Major Anoop Mishra of the College of Military Engineering in Pune has designed an AK-47 bullet resistant helmet and bulletproof jacket and anti-personnel mine resistant boots. A report being prepared by the Army’s Shimla-based ARTRAC command is already identifying areas where army engineers can provide indigenous high technology solutions.

But with all defence hardware, the key challenge for the Asmi will begin when the weapon enters mass production. This is where issues like consistency of production, quality control and manufacturing processes will come into play. The INSAS is a case in point—an excellent design dogged by quality control issues throughout its service career. Its patchy past killed the promising future variant—the INSAS 1C and the Army strangely abandoned the design altogether. Kalashnikov’s during World War 2, was successful because it was backed by the resources of the Soviet state which put it into mass production and stabilised the design.
 

@Milspec

When it rains, it pours.
More the merrier. I have nothing against OFB building AK variants, but the article by India today is quite shoddy. Short barrel AKM's in 7.62x39 usually referred to as krinkovs and AK pistols like draco's have been around for decades. The term innovation here probably refers to OFB's engineers getting off thiers butts and working for a change.

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More the merrier. I have nothing against OFB building AK variants, but the article by India today is quite shoddy. Short barrel AKM's in 7.62x39 usually referred to as krinkovs and AK pistols like draco's have been around for decades. The term innovation here probably refers to OFB's engineers getting off thiers butts and working for a change.

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That is a direct copy of the SLR 107UR from Arsenal. Down to the rear trunnion, stock and muzzle device. No innovation at all. Just like the full size TAR is a copy of Arsenal ARM1F.

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More like They can't. Wish they just make a refined version of the Anamika..
I wish they export some semi MP5's to US :) .... didn't even know about this one. Given this one is made from all stamped sheet metal, might be dirt cheap compared to $2k mp5.
 
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I wish they export some semi MP5's to US :) .... didn't even know about this one. Given this one is made from all stamped sheet metal, might be dirt cheap compared to $2k mp5.
There is a niche demand for indian smle's as well as fal in the U.S market. Both which ofb makes and are actually of good quality. Also Insas has gained infamy among the gun enthusiast there, I would live if OFB gets its act together and starts exporting them to U.S,Canada and Switzerland atleast that might finally force them to innovate..
 
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Requesting the Guru's and Senior members, could anyone kindly post pics of the ballistic body armour/BPJ and Helmet the IA has standardized upon? Thank you sirs.
 
@Milspec sir,
Could you please share with us why does the IA need carbines,. What is it the 7.62 x 51 mm assault rifles cannot do that the carbines can.
Thank you.
I can try.

Carbines traditionally were shorter lighter versions of rifles, they gained popularity during WWII, where say for the american troops, for a M1 Garand in 30.06 full size battle rifle you had a M1 carbine in 0.30.
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30.06 vs .30 carbine
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Post WWII
This equation got a little muddled up with intermediate calibers which essenstially were shortened version of full size rifle cartridges, starting with 7.92x33 kurz, 7.62x39 (akm), and then a new cartridge derrived from the .223 the 5.56x45 Nato.

These could function very well as carbines, and were dubbed Assault rifles. They were all the craze back in the 60's but thier shortcommings started to show up post-vietnam. You cant beat physics, when you are working with smaller bullets or smaller charge, you will either get a terminal ballistic penalty or a range penalty. So now most of the armies depending on the type of war they were fighting, had to keep a full size battle rifle handy 7.62x51Nato, G3, Fal's, M14's, etc. (In India's case now the SLR's and now the Sig 7.62x51 rifle)

Coming back to carbines in it's modern iteration, the carbine is supposed to provide intermediate cartridge engeagement ranges, i.e upto 400m, in a light package, in total length of about 30-34". So a lot of rifles can be classifed to discharge this role.

Every AKM with 12" barrel, every AR platform with 12-14" barrel, and all the bullpups with even 18" barrels under the sun can be classified as carbines. But the bullpups with full length barrels might exceed the weight requirements.

Now coming back to the role of carbines and why IA needs them. Shorter Carbines are easier to travel with whether it's in a APC, or a IFV, or while jumping out of an aircraft. It's also easier to run patrols with, it is absolutely essential for urban combat. Screening up a staircase with a 12" barrel M4 or even a SMG is much more effective than running a 16-18" fullsize rifle.

Now coming to your specific query of 7.62x51 rifle vs the carbine.

lets take an example of M4 carbine vs the Sig 7.62x51 rifle. First the Sig is heavier, and runs a larger caliber, in an CT type urban fire fight where you are trying to screen a street or a part of forest cover it's much easier to manuever, and then if you do have to engage, a 5.56x45 Nato has almost negligible recoil impulse, compared to the 7.62x51. If you shoot a 7.62x51nato in close quarters you will most likely loose your sight picture and will have to re adjust to engage again. Now if you are using the same 7.62x51 from a significant distance that no longer is the issue. Full scale battle rifles are designed to engage hostile units from a distance of 200-300m, but more you reduce the stand off distance, you need systems that are more agile.

So it essentially comes down to type of environment you are in and the engament ranges you anticipate.

700-1200m ranges AMR, HMG, GPMG, Specialized Sniper Rifles (338, 416 stuff)
400-700 m ranges - LMG's, General Sniper Rifles, Optics mounted DMR's Bolt action Rifles Full size cartridges 300 Winmag, .308, .243 etc.
300- 600 m Ranges - Battle rifles, Assault rifles (Steyr Aug. M16, etc), Specialized DMR
100-300 m ranges - Assault rifles (AKM, insas, Galils) Carbines,
15-100 ranges - SMG's, PDW, pistol caliber carbines,
0-20 m ranges - Pistols, revolvers.

hope that helps.


One aspect we do have to account for is the continued development in Bullet dynamics and the advent of new cartridges which now bridge the gap between the intermediate and full size battle rifle cartridges like 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 spc and 6.5 Lapua. It is absolutely critical for the large armies around the world to be cognizant of such developments and plan accordingly. I have long argued that 6.5 Grendel is the right step in the future for the Indian forces. Imagine a Carbine that discharges the role of a battle rifle... That's what a modern cartridge can do for the indian forces. With one cartridge platform, remove 5.56 nato, 7.62 nato, 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R from indian services.
 
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