Sukhoi Su-30MKI

Rather rare to deploy under test weapon at such heightened situation.
Shows desperation of IAF,we really fuc*ed up procurement, modernisation for ages,IAF was forced to deploy a weapon under limited series production to main battlefield without fine turning the strategy around Astra.
 
Shows desperation of IAF,we really fuc*ed up procurement, modernisation for ages,IAF was forced to deploy a weapon under limited series production to main battlefield without fine turning the strategy around Astra.
LSP series are suppose to be used in actual combat, marshal saab.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Rajput Lion
It had completed all tests and even multiple user trials, it was under limited operation. It was basically in the stage where ATAGS will soon be under.
I meant certification part, airworthiness and all. Same thing astra 2 will be going through now.

Shows desperation of IAF,we really fuc*ed up procurement, modernisation for ages,IAF was forced to deploy a weapon under limited series production to main battlefield without fine turning the strategy around Astra.
Its more of a contingency plan based rather than need. They had a huge stock, lot of which now going to be re used in one particular other system.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rajput Lion
I meant certification part, airworthiness and all. Same thing astra 2 will be going through now.

Yeah, all that was completed. When it entered production in 2017, it had finished all trials.


Basically, when something enters LSP, it's under the operation of forces.

Fired for the first time from a modified Su-30 MKI in May 2014, the Astra has battled steady headwinds (unsurprisingly including delays from Russia) to turn the corner and find an unusually pleased customer in the Indian Air Force. Following a rapid-fire spate of seven guided tests last September, topped off with the two ‘combat’ tests described above, the Indian Air Force was persuaded to sign on for 50 pre-production Astra missiles, its healthiest show of confidence in a program that’s still, effectively, in its proving stage.

Also, in hindsight, the fact that the same model went into production means the LSPs were as close to the serial production model as possible.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rajput Lion
Its more of a contingency plan based rather than need. They had a huge stock, lot of which now going to be re used in one particular other system.
Yeas, but feb 27 shows us top of our missile inventory r77 was not ready for modern day. So its as good as not having stockpile.
 
Otherwise, using R77 against PL15 and PL12, I'm afraid the Su-30 will die a terrible death
I am quite sure what China sell outside, is equal to or inferior to what we make ourselves, DRDO stuff in case of missiles. This is based on research papers and orientation of projects. Both of the countries products that is available to the own armed forces are generally equivalent. One side does a huge amount of media gassing up hence we see tall claims of chinese things doing this and that. DRDO/Indian armed forces prefer low key/silence on the same products. (Mind you, we are just starting to make conventional war related weapons. Everything DRDO made before, the IGMDP, it was mainly the nuke delivery, AD program and antitank).

What china use themselves at PLA/PLAAF is on par with DRDO made stuff, what China sells outside falls quite below DRDO made stuff.
This part is very clear if you have experience in using both type of chinese products and works generally in every type of chinese export product vs the same product they sell to domestic market/people.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rajput Lion
Otherwise, using R77 against PL15 and PL12, I'm afraid the Su-30 will die a terrible death
R-77 is definitely inferior to both PL-12 & PL-15. But after Balakot IAF has reportedly ordered R-77-1 which is superior to 80kms range PL-12.

PL-15 is a missile about which even the mighty USAF is worried. But Astra 2 will give us parity there too.
 
  • Like
Reactions: marich01

Sukhoi upgrade​

The long-pending Su-30MKI upgrade will be initially rolled out with 84 jets and will largely be an indigenous effort, sources said. ACM Chaudhari has said that the 84 jets will see the upgradation of 51 systems with an indigenous content of 78%.

A source said that the original equipment manufacturer Russia would be involved in upgrading the fly-by-wire system, integration of systems among others and majority of the upgrades, including radar and avionics, will be indigenous. As part of this, the indigenous Uttam Advanced Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar being developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is expected to be integrated on the jets, sources said.

 
So project Aatmrakshak of CASDIC to come forth maybe ?

1697190675131.png
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rajput Lion

India plans to equip Russian-origin Su-30MKIs with indigenous 'Virupaaksha' radar


By Ajit K Dubey
New Delhi [India], October 19 (ANI): Working on upgrading its fleet of its Russian-origin Su-30 MKI combat aircraft, the Indian Air Force is planning to equip them with an indigenous advanced radar named 'Virupaaksha'.

The Indian Air Force is working on the upgrade programme of the Su-30MKI fleet under a package worth over Rs 65,000 crore where 84 planes would be upgraded indigenously with advanced made in India radars and weapon systems.
"The Virupaaksha is an advanced radar being developed indigenously. This would be a strong push to the indigenisation process in military sector," defence officials told ANI. Virupaaksha is one of the names of god Mahadev worshipped by Hindus living across the world.

The Indian Air Force has already decided to replace the Israeli radar on the LCA Tejas Mark 1A fighter jet with the indigenous Uttam Actors Electronically Scanned Array radar along with the Angad electronic warfare suite.

The Su-30 fighter jets are the mainstay of Indian Air Force with 260 of them already in service. The jets have been inducted in different batches and have now form around 50 per cent of the fighter fleet.

The Su-30MKI fleet upgrade plan is also seen by the Indian Air Force as an opportunity for exports as many countries in the south east Asia and Africa operate the plane and can use these solutions for providing advanced capabilities to their fleets.

India is one of the largest operators of the Su-30MKI fighters and has constantly equipped the planes with new capabilities. (ANI)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rajput Lion

India plans to equip Russian-origin Su-30MKIs with indigenous 'Virupaaksha' radar


By Ajit K Dubey
New Delhi [India], October 19 (ANI): Working on upgrading its fleet of its Russian-origin Su-30 MKI combat aircraft, the Indian Air Force is planning to equip them with an indigenous advanced radar named 'Virupaaksha'.

The Indian Air Force is working on the upgrade programme of the Su-30MKI fleet under a package worth over Rs 65,000 crore where 84 planes would be upgraded indigenously with advanced made in India radars and weapon systems.
"The Virupaaksha is an advanced radar being developed indigenously. This would be a strong push to the indigenisation process in military sector," defence officials told ANI. Virupaaksha is one of the names of god Mahadev worshipped by Hindus living across the world.

The Indian Air Force has already decided to replace the Israeli radar on the LCA Tejas Mark 1A fighter jet with the indigenous Uttam Actors Electronically Scanned Array radar along with the Angad electronic warfare suite.

The Su-30 fighter jets are the mainstay of Indian Air Force with 260 of them already in service. The jets have been inducted in different batches and have now form around 50 per cent of the fighter fleet.

The Su-30MKI fleet upgrade plan is also seen by the Indian Air Force as an opportunity for exports as many countries in the south east Asia and Africa operate the plane and can use these solutions for providing advanced capabilities to their fleets.

India is one of the largest operators of the Su-30MKI fighters and has constantly equipped the planes with new capabilities. (ANI)

UTTAM with more TRM and bigger plate?
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Rajput Lion