1) Like Dassault bailing out of partnerships?
2) test pilots are not pilots? Ok, then Rafale killed more pilots than LCA today.
Tejas Mk2 (Medium Weight Fighter) - News and discussions
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2) test pilots are not pilots? Ok, then Rafale killed more pilots than LCA today.
Why? Because Dassault was worried about IP? And that's why tried to create JV with Reliance which gone bankrupt, with human resources that were a bunch of idiots, where further govt. cant interfere in it? That's what you mean by piece of cake?
I am not justifying HAL should violate IP, as they did in the past. But for the nation, fk it. French can say anything they want.
wtf you guys smoke, really? HAL is the one right now building the Crew Module and Service Module. They are DPSU and should be privatized definitely. But if you questioning the capabilities of HAL, I must laugh on it. You got no idea buddy. You guys went to HAL Banglore, and watch some aircraft and conclude things. HAL is all over India, and India is a very big country.
You don't even realize how much deep things actually go. Constructing prototypes of next-gen Hypersonic vehicles to MIRVing.
It will be a very good news if MWF takes off in 2022. Many of our friends are sceptical about it though on this forum.
Do you think the skepticism is unwarranted? It would be great if the Mk2 is delivered within a reasonable timeframe, but it should be obvious why many have no faith in that possibility so long as HAL is in charge of the project.
ADA is responsible for developing the Mk2 not HAL. Besides this is a step up. They aren't developing anything as complex as a beginner working to set up an entire aviation eco system or even working from scratch to design a 4th Gen FA & develop allied sub systems like the Flight Control Laws or the AESA radar & the EW suite or the AAMs to arm it or even the turbo jet engine or the composite material which forms it's outer skin like it was with Tejas Mk1. The real tough ones to develop would be TEDBF & AMCA.
ADA may be responsible for designing Mk2, but HAL is still in charge of manufacturing, sourcing components, integrating etc... right?
My opinion of HAL really soured with the Mk1 and the recent revelations on the poor quality/lack of basic design considerations during InNavy-HAL feud. I just have zero faith in that institution and I think any project with HAL as anything more than a minor component manufacturer will be over budget, behind schedule and with substantially lower quality.
It's not impossible for them to change their image, look at Hyundai today versus 25 years go - total 180 change in image (at least in the NA car market, idk about India). I just don't think HAL in its present form is capable of changing for the better, I think its flaws are rooted at a structural level
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They failed even at that.
Boeing ends contract with HAL over ‘poor quality’ of production
US firm’s decision comes over HAL’s ‘poor quality’ of production
www.financialexpress.com
Previous timeline for LCA Mk2:
Early 2021 = metal cutting
Mid-end 2022 = ground trials
End 2023 = First flight
Now COVID has brought in a 5-month delay in the entire process. So you can expect first flight only in early 2024. If they plan better they can still try and stick to a 2023 first flight, but it's not a good idea to count on it. Not considering unplanned delays.
Detailed design phase is generally a 12-month process. But since the LCA has been worked on since so long, this phase can actually be completed even sooner than that.
AMCA's detailed design phase has taken a little longer since they brought in design changes in the middle. Suffice to say AMCA is a step ahead of LCA Mk2 since AMCA is nearly ready to move into the FSED phase.
Early 2021 = metal cutting
Mid-end 2022 = ground trials
End 2023 = First flight
Now COVID has brought in a 5-month delay in the entire process. So you can expect first flight only in early 2024. If they plan better they can still try and stick to a 2023 first flight, but it's not a good idea to count on it. Not considering unplanned delays.
Detailed design phase is generally a 12-month process. But since the LCA has been worked on since so long, this phase can actually be completed even sooner than that.
AMCA's detailed design phase has taken a little longer since they brought in design changes in the middle. Suffice to say AMCA is a step ahead of LCA Mk2 since AMCA is nearly ready to move into the FSED phase.
Why post stuff from random people ?
The detailed design takes a year (Apparantly started 6 months back). Metal cutting by next year-end. Tenders for Jigs are already out. It's safe to assume the first flight by 2023.
Stick around. A lot is destined to happen in 2022. You will see a whole lot of prophecies on 2022 here. Remember, you read it here first.