Tejas Mk2 (Medium Weight Fighter) - News and discussions
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Only scale model is getting ready for testing..
20 weeks for that probe...
Will they roll out actual aircraft next year?
Yes. Already metal cutting for first mk2 is done. The very first LCA mk2 aka MWF will be nearly production standard...
Even in the interview, they said they don't expect any hurdles like lca mk1.
Some how this RFP for probe of scale model wind tunnel testing isn't understood by me...
@Gautam @Chain Smoker , why are they testing this ?
At what stage would they do this?
They will wind tunnel tests this probe. HAL was going to use a new probe on the Mk-2 flight tests then the ones seen on Mk-1 & 1A. A new design requires testing. Can't use untested sensors on new airframes. After wind tunneling they will manufacture full sized probes and probably test them out on one of HAL's manufactured aircrafts (Su-30, Hawk-i, Mk-1, 1A, HTT-40 etc.).
They will mount the probe on the wind tunnel directly & test it. That would allow then to form performance data at various angle of attack, roll, yaw & pitch motions.
Pardon me if I am wrong..
Probe is the one on tip of radome?
Currently we ll roll out mk2 with mk1 probe and later replace with new one?
And this new probe has no bearing on roll out of mk2 aircraft?
Ufff...I thought probe is for wind tunnel itself not for aircraft.
It's part of detailed design phase and the same probe will be also used for testing air intakes.
In most cases yes. There are exceptions. In some cases it can be side mounted instead of nose mounted. Side mount is mostly used for slow flying aircrafts.
We can roll out the Mk-2 with Mk-1's probe. We can replace it later. We can also replace the Mk-1's probe later. I am not sure why they wanted a new probe or what benefits it has over the old one. I don't think there will be any external changes to the design. Maybe the internal piezoelectric sensors would change.
Nope. A probe is an instrument for measuring the aerodynamic behavior of an airframe, mostly probes are too small to have any effect over the aerodynamic behavior.
If probes had negative effects on aerodynamic behavior no one would use them. Imagine using a ruler to measure length of an object, but the ruler is such that it can increase or decrease the length of the object. Would you still use that ruler ?
All types of aircrafts use probes; fighters, helos, drones etc. Remember the videos of the LUH during its high altitude trials ? It was carrying a probe.
"Heavy weapons of the class of Scalp, Crystal Maze and Spice-2000 will also be integrated on the Mk2. The LCA-Mk2 will be a heavier and much more capable aircraft than the current LCA variants."
That's a weird claim when LCA Mk1A is also expected to carry heavy weapons, even the Brahmos-NG.
“We are moving to critical design review by the middle of next year with the roll-out planned in 2024 and first flight planned in 2025.”
Let's hope they actually stick to this. It will allow LSP to begin in 2027, with deliveries in 2030.
Last we heard Roll out delayed from August to December 2022..
Going ahead of schedule..?
His Twitter account reliable?
It's all speculative. Leave it for when it actually happens.
Mk2 deliveries starting 2029 / 2030? Will it be any relevant so late with the advent of stealth aircraft?
All countries that need to field a large airforce are going to keep and expand their 4++ gen aircraft. Tejas MK2 does this for us. Our problem is that we are sorely missing stealth aircraft. Not sure what we are doing to mitigate that.
Yeah, because of loyal wingmen. All the dangerous ground attack missions will be done using drones. So manned aircraft can stay back and let drones do all the dirty work. The IUSAV will make our entire 4th gen fleet stealth-capable, since they will all operate outside enemy SAM rings anyway. Meaning an aircraft that's not threatened by a radar doesn't need stealth. So our need for stealth jets will be restricted to a certain number for air superiority that need to go in to protect the drones if necessary.
The entire concept of airwarfare is soon going to change, even the way squadrons work is gonna change. The effect is going to be similar to how tanks changed things on the ground during WW2. Currently we are at the same place where our air force predecessors were during the 40s to the 60s. It increasingly looks like the military will be the first beneficiary of the Fourth Industrial Revolution and the air force will take center stage.
While comparing with Gripen E, where does our mk2 will stand? Will it be as good as Gripen E in terms of EW suite?
Equivalent or not doesn't matter..
Electronics evolve in 5 years, we can keep updating it,
And our aerospace R&D , industry & user are much bigger than Sweden.
so I think our Mk2 has better potential.
Only a competitive tender can reveal some things. So we gotta wait until the 2030s.