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Wrong info.

May be you can confusing pakstan with us!.

We did not purchase no new squadrons of mirages
I find you know less about India than I do
Where? You map is showing the opposite. The darker shades are highest elevation. All under Indian/Nepal control. What are you smoking? Cant you read rudimentary maps
You're the one who can't read the map, the white places are the highest, most of them are in China, Google Maps shows it more clearly
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1. The opposite. Tibet is 4000m up, radars can't see anything below that. And if you position radars over mountains to look down, they are easily defeated. India has the radar advantage because all our plains radars are working in look-up mode. Of course, they can't see beyond horizon, but it's compensated by AWACS
Are you sure? How does the radar at the foot of the mountain see things on the other side of the mountain? Indian radar can only see as far south as the Himalayas. As for the Tibetan plateau behind the mountains, India has no way. The AESA can change its scanning Angle to scan targets below it.

2. AWACS can't see beyond horizon, and the horizon in this case is really, really high. This is the IAF's advantage
You remember wrong, ground radar is affected by the curvature of the earth, and can only see targets on the horizon, whereas AWACS can see the more further and AWACS can see valleys and other radar blind spot like this

I'm afraid that when it comes to surveillance, it's completely to the IAF's advantage. PLA has to compensate for that via a satellite based surveillance system, which we know does not yet exist. All 3 points you made are disadvantages to China.
As I have explained, it is quite the opposite and very bad for India. As for Rafale being able to stealth with electronic warfare capability, this is called active cancellation technology, which is commonly used in generation 4.5 fighters and is also used in J10C.

F-35 isn't an ASF so it can't fight J-20 head-on. Rafale has got very good kinematics along with superior EW. It has also lots of other tricks in its bag. Rafale flown by IAF pilots would surprise PLAAF.

I just hope that MICA-NG is fast-tracked. Our Rafale have now got long range IRST, so even J-20 is going to get detected above 100kms. Mica-NG IR with dual-pulse rocket motor would be the perfect stealth killer and it will do that ever so silently err...stealthi
You are too naive. Stealth fighter jets are not so easy to fight, let alone you only reached the level of PL10/PL15 through this series of missiles

The Rafale cannot fight the J-20 head-on, but it's been designed to avoid everything in its path while conducting a bombing mission. The French have a history of accomplishing strike missions without being detected in exercises. Due to a strategic requirement that requires the French forces to fight the Soviet Union alone, without NATO assistance, they have developed capabilities others have not to compensate for their lack of numbers. It's also why their weapons are unique, like the MICA and Hammer, even ASMP
It was the F22 that broke Soviet air defenses in Europe, not the Rafale. The only possible threat was the Storm Shadow cruise missile, but as a spouter-improved missile, it was far less stealthily capable than the AGM158 and AKF98A
 
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Where do you get this click bait spammy websites? As i explain to you before this thing called internet (outside of china) is open. Anyone can write anything. Learn to distingish facts from fiction. You are like my uncle who forwards every whatsapp message thinking its true.

You think we are all stupid and we dont understand our military ? Thats some arrogance.

Prove us that IAF purchased a squadron of used Mirages. I will delete this account. :sneaky:

You're the one who can't read the map, the white places are the highest, most of them are in China, Google Maps shows it more clearly
:LOL: No its not . Change the layers "terrine" to get satellite view or use the keyword "topographic map" in google.

Are you really an uncle who is new to global internet ?


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Here is the wiki article: Indian Himalayan Region - Wikipedia

We know more about tibeten geography more than you. Try to unlearn party propaganda. You cant change geography.
 
Where do you get this click bait spammy websites? As i explain to you before this thing called internet (outside of china) is open. Anyone can write anything. Learn to distingish facts from fiction. You are like my uncle who forwards every whatsapp message thinking its true.

You think we are all stupid and we dont understand our military ? Thats some arrogance.

Prove us that IAF purchased a squadron of used Mirages. I will delete this account.
Are you a fool? Isn't it a public announcement that you purchased 24 retired and scrapped Phantom 2000 aircraft from France in 2022? Fool, cancel your account now
 
Are you a fool? Isn't it a public announcement that you purchased 24 retired and scrapped Phantom 2000 aircraft from France in 2022? Fool, cancel your account now
This never happened. These reports are all wrong. Only handful of mirages were purchased to replace trainers which crashed.
 
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:LOL: No its not . Change the layers "terrine" to get satellite view or use the keyword "topographic map" in google.

Are you really an uncle who is new to global internet
Are you illiterate? Or if you score zero in geography, follow your own map to see if the ridge line is on the Chinese side
 
This never happened. These reports are all wrong. Only handful of mirages were purchased to replace trainers which crashed.
New Delhi: The Indian Air Force signed a contract worth about Rs 300 crore with a French private firm on 31 August for the purchase of phased-out Mirage 2000 aircraft to be used as ‘Christmas trees’ for spares

This should be a relatively authoritative media in India
 
New Delhi: The Indian Air Force signed a contract worth about Rs 300 crore with a French private firm on 31 August for the purchase of phased-out Mirage 2000 aircraft to be used as ‘Christmas trees’ for spares

This should be a relatively authoritative media in India
This is a separate spare parts deal not the actual aircraft to be used in flying .We did not activate a new squadron with it.

Read this report.

janes report said it is to increase squadron strength. Which is wrong.
 
This is a separate spare parts deal not the actual aircraft to be used in flying .We did not activate a new squadron with it.

Read this report.

janes report said it is to increase squadron strength. Which is wrong.
India certainly did not build a new Mirage 2000 squadron, but still bought a lot of second-hand aircraft to keep the Mirage 2000 in attendance. After all, the Mirage is still India's most important ground strike aircraft, after all it can use French and Israeli weapons
 
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India certainly did not build a new Mirage 2000 squadron, but still bought a lot of second-hand aircraft to keep the Mirage 2000 in attendance. After all, the Mirage is still India's most important ground strike aircraft, after all it can use French and Israeli weapons
Buying retired airframes for spares is not a news. Thats a cheap way to upkeep your inventory. That does not decrease quality but increases availability . Our primary strike aircraft against Pakistan is Jaguar. Mirage is used as multirole.

There was a plan to buy unused Mig-29 from russian storage and upgrade. Which was canceled by Ukraine conflict.

Pakistan still purchase second hand Mirage-3 and F-16 airframes to operationalise.
 
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You are too naive. Stealth fighter jets are not so easy to fight, let alone you only reached the level of PL10/PL15 through this series of missiles
VLO doesn't mean you're invincible. Remember, there is always a counter for even the best of tech.
It was the F22 that broke Soviet air defenses in Europe, not the Rafale. The only possible threat was the Storm Shadow cruise missile, but as a spouter-improved missile, it was far less stealthily capable than the AGM158 and AKF98A
Penetrating Soviet IADS and nuke delivery role was always integral part of Rafale program.
 
VLO doesn't mean you're invincible. Remember, there is always a counter for even the best of tech.

Penetrating Soviet IADS and nuke delivery role was always integral part of Rafale program.
VLO isnt invincible , but stealth is in today's war.

USSR long gone, if my conclusion is true based on the IQ level sern in your posts, dissolution of ussr event is much older than u.
 
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India bought two squadrons, not two, after all, the only major air power that still has the outdated Mirage 2000 as its main force is India, while France discontinued the Mirage, India had to buy some retired and scrap fighters,

Some mistakes here. First, the M2000 has been upgraded to 11500 hours of service life, it's only in the middle of its life today.

France has begun upgrading their M2000s.

France's M2000s are actually far newer and are receiving upgrades later than than the IAF's jets.
You forgot the payload advantage.

Most definitely. Plains takeoffs vs mountain takeoffs.
 
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Those are not for operational use, they are for extra spares.

You're the one who can't read the map, the white places are the highest, most of them are in China, Google Maps shows it more clearlyView attachment 27744

India occupies the highest ridge lines. You should use Google Earth. You can barely make out the border on Earth, but if you switch between Maps and Earth, you will see that the boundary is on the highest points.

One clue is Mount Everest is on the border of Nepal and China, so the highest peaks are all along that line, which continues alongside the India border.
 
Are you sure? How does the radar at the foot of the mountain see things on the other side of the mountain? Indian radar can only see as far south as the Himalayas. As for the Tibetan plateau behind the mountains, India has no way. The AESA can change its scanning Angle to scan targets below it.


You remember wrong, ground radar is affected by the curvature of the earth, and can only see targets on the horizon, whereas AWACS can see the more further and AWACS can see valleys and other radar blind spot like this


As I have explained, it is quite the opposite and very bad for India.

Your redrawn map should help you understand the point made.

As for Rafale being able to stealth with electronic warfare capability, this is called active cancellation technology, which is commonly used in generation 4.5 fighters and is also used in J10C.

Wouldn't you say the French have a more mature industry with better capabilities? Like would you prefer a smartphone with iOS/Android or a phone with a Chinese OS?