A genocide is when you methodically set about eliminating a race. Over a period of centuries, if such had been a goal, it would have been achieved, but it wasn't.
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Ah yes, the Mughals changed their name, they're now known as Persians aka Iranians, although Turks and Uzbeks also formed a part. Are you telling me that if we'd changed our name you'd have forgiven us?
It was achieved. Look at the aborigines, native Americans they have been wiped off the face of the earth with select remnants still surviving and their culture has been destroyed completely. The Maori and African maybe the only backward races that survived in the process losing their entire culture. Both have been christianised and westernised in the process. Nobody really cares for them because they are not white. Had these been white Anglo saxons or European Jews the outrage would have been phenomenal.
Just look at how many white Christian whine about the Turks holding hagia Sophia. It's only a genocide when someone considers it to be a genocide otherwise it's cultural enrichment
The Mughals were never Persians. They were turko-mongols who were persianised most of who originated from Uzbekistan. The Iranians have never really had any direct interaction with India. It was during nadir shah when Iran and India interacted with nadir shah basically massacring a bunch innocent people in Delhi and humiliating the Mughal King.
Our hatred is specifically reserved for the English Anglo saxons and other white races are treated as discount version of them so the hate is lower comparitively...
The Aborigines were not wiped out, not even the Tasmanian ones if you insist they are distinct, and there were only 100,000 Tasmanian ones to start with and not exactly a passive bunch either.
Interesting that you describe Africans and Maoris as 'backwards races' - your words not mine. All cultures were behind at some point in history, Indians were behind in 1750 but ahead at the time of the Cholas.
Had they been passive and wiped out anyway, then the outrage would have been phenomenal, then it would actually have been a genocide, that's the distinction you're missing.
The Iranians were definitely part of it.
So basically your hatred is racist and discriminatory.
Iranians were never part of it. The turko Mongols were persianised. Most of the invaders originated in Afghanistan and neighbouring Uzbekistan. There might be some Persians ethnics but they never led any invasions. Most of them migrated to India. Example is Ayotollah Khomeini whose family used to live in Lucknow before they went back to Iran. Iranians never had a direct influence it was transmitted through the other invading ethnicities...
Hatred of people is always racist and discriminatory that's just the ugly fact of human society...
Most of these "non-passive" ethnicities are at bottom of the social scale in their respective countries with the whites dominating there societies and it repeats in every colonised country. Wherever whites become a powerful minority or majority they start an apartheid of sorts. America,Canada,Australia,New Zealand.,South Africa. Even Spanish speaking colonies the racially white speaking latinos dominate the society. The oppressed natives have been christianised for the most part..
Funnily even Israel is a good example where white European Jews dominate and racially disciminate with brown and black Jews. It's like the European white dna is inherently racist...
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That's not the case at all, they run a system of 'equal opportunities', which these days means preferential treatment for black people. I was telling _Anonymous_ earlier about the black guy at the final stage of a BP assessment centre with a 2:2, even though the brochure specifically stated 2:1 or above.
The truth is that some ethnicities are just cleverer than others. Indians and East Asians have done very well in British and American societies for instance and Ashkenazi Jews dominate in Israel because their average IQ is through the roof.
Your hatred comes from a poor understanding of facts and history, i.e. ignorance.
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Lol there is no poor understanding of history. I clearly know what history is. The better performance of certain races is because they are the guys with better cultures. The entire human history is racist doesn't change that it's a fact even if not pretty. Black consistently perform worse in every foreign society. Something most asian races don't.
So why do you insist it's a result of apartheid in your previous post? But you are right though, everyone was racist during history, certainly in the 19th century and before (black or white). You do not understand what counts as a genocide though.
It is you who doesn't understand. If someone is scalping people, then killing them is not genocide.
Number of UK citizens emigrating to EU has risen by 30% since Brexit vote
Exclusive: crisis has led to 500% increase in Britons taking up citizenship in an EU state
Lisa O'Carroll Brexit correspondent @lisaocarroll
Benalmádena, Spain. The biggest jump in migration was to Spain, where an estimated 380,000 British nationals live. Photograph: Leon Neal/Getty Images
The number of British nationals emigrating to other EU countries has risen by 30% since the Brexit referendum, with half making their decision to leave in the first three months after the vote, research has found.
Analysis of data from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) and Eurostat shows that migration from Britain to EU states averaged 56,832 people a year in 2008-15, growing to 73,642 a year in 2016-18.
The study also shows a 500% increase in those who made the move and then took up citizenship in an EU state. Germany saw a 2,000% rise, with 31,600 Britons naturalising there since the referendum.
“These increases in numbers are of a magnitude that you would expect when a country is hit by a major economic or political crisis,” said Daniel Auer, co-author of the study by Oxford University in Berlin and the Berlin Social Science Center.
According to interviews, half chose to leave the UK quickly. “Another important finding from the empirical evidence associated with Brexit is reduced levels of consideration and level-headedness in decision-making, with increases in levels of impulsiveness, spontaneity and corresponding risk-taking,” the researchers said.
While the withdrawal agreement signed in January enshrines the residency, work and social rights of EU citizens in the UK and Britons in the rest of the bloc, it failed to guarantee the free movement rights of British migrants, restricting future employment and residency prospects in other member states.
Co-author Daniel Tetlow said that “Brexit was by far the most dominant driver of migration decisions since 2016”. The jump in citizenship was “further evidence that an increasing number are making migration decisions to protect themselves from some of the most negative effects of Brexit on their lives”, the report said.
The key loss for British nationals is the freedom to move country within the EU or to work or offer services across a border. This does not apply to EU nationals in the UK who retain free movement rights beyond Brexit courtesy of their EU member state citizenship.
It means that unless British nationals take out citizenship in their host country, they can no longer work in or offer a service to another EU member state, impacting professions including accounting, law, architecture, translation and health.
The biggest jump in migration was to Spain, where an estimated 380,000 British nationals live. Registration has not been essential in the country so many have lived there without being included in official Spanish immigration data, with an average of just 2,300 a year registering as migrating to the country between 2008 and 2015. After the referendum, this jumped fivefold, with 21,250 registrations in the two years between 2016 and 2018.
The second most popular country for British nationals was France, which does not require registration of EU migrants. Between 2008 and 2015 the number of registrations was just over 500 a year. After the referendum this rose tenfold with 5,000 registrations over the following two years.
In Germany, 14,600 Britons had dual nationality in 2019 compared to 622 in 2015. A total of 31,600 applied and received German citizenship in the three years after the referendum (2016 to 2019) with another 15,000 German passports expected for 2020. Overall half the estimated 120,000 Britons in Germany are expected to have dual citizenship by the end of this year.
Interviews with migrants in Germany for the study found those who had made the move to the EU since 2015 considered it a “big risk” but were prepared to make the trade-off to secure future residency and employment routes across 27 countries.
Tetlow said the rise in naturalisation numbers was a striking commitment “to integrate or socially embed”, with an increase in language learning and community involvement. “We’re observing a new social integration phenomenon and a redefining of what it means to be British European.
In 2019, Brits came in just behind Turks in numbers receiving German citizenship – way ahead of Poles, Romanians, Iraqis or Syrians,” he added.
Case study
Andreas Mitchell’s family moved from Scotland to Germany in 2018 after the 20-year-old was diagnosed with a form of leukaemia and they feared Brexit could delay medicines or treatment.
Andreas said: “About six months after the referendum I was diagnosed with acute lymphoblastic leukaemia. I was getting treatment but these kind of things can start deteriorating over the years, and eventually we decided we should probably leave in case things started to get difficult.
“We had a fear that if a hard Brexit came there could be delays at the border with medicines coming through and my treatment would have to be prioritised and it would get interrupted by two or three weeks. With leukaemia you can’t wait a few weeks.”
He added: “It became a question of should we stay, things deteriorating financially for the family – petrol into Aberdeen every day mounts up cost-wise and there was a risk if my treatment got postponed.”
Mitchell’s German-born mother, Uschi, says they loved their life and home in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, and they miss their family and friends there – but the town and area have already changed significantly because of Brexit.
“Even without Covid-19 the economy had started to contract. People and investors alike became increasingly cautious when it came to spending money,” she said.
They also considered Ireland and Italy, but Uschi got a job in Germany. Fear over Brexit was “the main factor”, she added. “Where we were wasn’t brilliant for work so we thought we would not be able to sustain ourselves and Andreas’s diagnosis was a big scare, so Brexit was the big push in the end.”
Exclusive: crisis has led to 500% increase in Britons taking up citizenship in an EU state
Lisa O'Carroll Brexit correspondent @lisaocarroll
Benalmádena, Spain. The biggest jump in migration was to Spain, where an estimated 380,000 British nationals live. Photograph: Leon Neal/Getty Images
The number of British nationals emigrating to other EU countries has risen by 30% since the Brexit referendum, with half making their decision to leave in the first three months after the vote, research has found.
Analysis of data from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) and Eurostat shows that migration from Britain to EU states averaged 56,832 people a year in 2008-15, growing to 73,642 a year in 2016-18.
The study also shows a 500% increase in those who made the move and then took up citizenship in an EU state. Germany saw a 2,000% rise, with 31,600 Britons naturalising there since the referendum.
“These increases in numbers are of a magnitude that you would expect when a country is hit by a major economic or political crisis,” said Daniel Auer, co-author of the study by Oxford University in Berlin and the Berlin Social Science Center.
According to interviews, half chose to leave the UK quickly. “Another important finding from the empirical evidence associated with Brexit is reduced levels of consideration and level-headedness in decision-making, with increases in levels of impulsiveness, spontaneity and corresponding risk-taking,” the researchers said.
While the withdrawal agreement signed in January enshrines the residency, work and social rights of EU citizens in the UK and Britons in the rest of the bloc, it failed to guarantee the free movement rights of British migrants, restricting future employment and residency prospects in other member states.
Co-author Daniel Tetlow said that “Brexit was by far the most dominant driver of migration decisions since 2016”. The jump in citizenship was “further evidence that an increasing number are making migration decisions to protect themselves from some of the most negative effects of Brexit on their lives”, the report said.
The key loss for British nationals is the freedom to move country within the EU or to work or offer services across a border. This does not apply to EU nationals in the UK who retain free movement rights beyond Brexit courtesy of their EU member state citizenship.
It means that unless British nationals take out citizenship in their host country, they can no longer work in or offer a service to another EU member state, impacting professions including accounting, law, architecture, translation and health.
The biggest jump in migration was to Spain, where an estimated 380,000 British nationals live. Registration has not been essential in the country so many have lived there without being included in official Spanish immigration data, with an average of just 2,300 a year registering as migrating to the country between 2008 and 2015. After the referendum, this jumped fivefold, with 21,250 registrations in the two years between 2016 and 2018.
The second most popular country for British nationals was France, which does not require registration of EU migrants. Between 2008 and 2015 the number of registrations was just over 500 a year. After the referendum this rose tenfold with 5,000 registrations over the following two years.
In Germany, 14,600 Britons had dual nationality in 2019 compared to 622 in 2015. A total of 31,600 applied and received German citizenship in the three years after the referendum (2016 to 2019) with another 15,000 German passports expected for 2020. Overall half the estimated 120,000 Britons in Germany are expected to have dual citizenship by the end of this year.
Interviews with migrants in Germany for the study found those who had made the move to the EU since 2015 considered it a “big risk” but were prepared to make the trade-off to secure future residency and employment routes across 27 countries.
Tetlow said the rise in naturalisation numbers was a striking commitment “to integrate or socially embed”, with an increase in language learning and community involvement. “We’re observing a new social integration phenomenon and a redefining of what it means to be British European.
In 2019, Brits came in just behind Turks in numbers receiving German citizenship – way ahead of Poles, Romanians, Iraqis or Syrians,” he added.
Case study
Andreas Mitchell’s family moved from Scotland to Germany in 2018 after the 20-year-old was diagnosed with a form of leukaemia and they feared Brexit could delay medicines or treatment.
Andreas said: “About six months after the referendum I was diagnosed with acute lymphoblastic leukaemia. I was getting treatment but these kind of things can start deteriorating over the years, and eventually we decided we should probably leave in case things started to get difficult.
“We had a fear that if a hard Brexit came there could be delays at the border with medicines coming through and my treatment would have to be prioritised and it would get interrupted by two or three weeks. With leukaemia you can’t wait a few weeks.”
He added: “It became a question of should we stay, things deteriorating financially for the family – petrol into Aberdeen every day mounts up cost-wise and there was a risk if my treatment got postponed.”
Mitchell’s German-born mother, Uschi, says they loved their life and home in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, and they miss their family and friends there – but the town and area have already changed significantly because of Brexit.
“Even without Covid-19 the economy had started to contract. People and investors alike became increasingly cautious when it came to spending money,” she said.
They also considered Ireland and Italy, but Uschi got a job in Germany. Fear over Brexit was “the main factor”, she added. “Where we were wasn’t brilliant for work so we thought we would not be able to sustain ourselves and Andreas’s diagnosis was a big scare, so Brexit was the big push in the end.”
Guess for all his false bravado out here @BMD is secretly contemplating plans to move out. I'm betting RoI is the destination. That way he can escape being called a rat abandoning the sinking ship & also term his return a homecoming of sorts. Plus he gets to be in the EU & rant about it here.
Researchers say UK faces a Brexit brain drain to the EU
A new study says that the number of Britons moving to European Union countries soared after the nited Kingdom voted to leave the EU in 2016.
A new study says that the number of Britons moving to European Union countries soared after the nited Kingdom voted to leave the EU in 2016.
Are these Britons white?? Or are they Pakistanis just immigrating to another country...