Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Rajput Lion said:
She was the evil NeoCon who dragged US/Ukraine/Europe/Russia to this mess we have now. She was the mastermind behind Maidan Coup and the subsequent events. You two clowns just can't shrug her departure like an inconspicuous event because it ain't.

Her departure clearly tells that US is going to drag itself out of this mess sooner or later. Ukraine is now royally effed. Only a matter of time.
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She's a NeoLib which is almost the same when it comes to foreign policy with some differences
 
Rajput Lion said:
She was the evil NeoCon who dragged US/Ukraine/Europe/Russia to this mess we have now. She was the mastermind behind Maidan Coup and the subsequent events. You two clowns just can't shrug her departure like an inconspicuous event because it ain't.

Her departure clearly tells that US is going to drag itself out of this mess sooner or later. Ukraine is now royally effed. Only a matter of time.
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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Maidan happened because a leader tried to go against the will of his people and didn't have support from his security forces.

There's real signs of crumbling from inside Russia right now, and Ukraine is doing more and more damage and regaining territory each year. It would be damn foolish to give up now.
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It was well within the 300 km operational range of an S-200D system, which is what Ukraine said it shot it with.

I know the memes about Russian incompetence, and I know Russia itself prefers to blame friendly fire rather than admitting that they were beaten by those that they consider to be subhuman vermin, but the friendly fire excuse does not make sense. The A-50 is a very big, very easily identifiable target, that flies on a very regular, very predictable trajectory. To shoot it down with friendly fire requires not mere incompetence, but actual treachery.

In this case, Russian incompetence was in not taking the S-200D risk into account, as well as a failure to use what evasive maneuvers were available to the A-50 (if you look at the footage, you can see it was flying in a straight line dropping flares (and probably chaff, but that wasn't visible in the night sky). It wasn't diving down to try to disappear into the ground clutter and cause the missile to lose more energy to air friction.

One interesting thing to note about the whole A-50 shoot down is that it was the logical outcome of a long campaign to defeat Russia in the sky. It started with the campaign to defeat Russia in the sea. Sinking the Moskva (an air defense ship) and pushing the Black Sea fleet away from Snake Island and Kherson/Odessa area allowed Ukraine special forces to take control of the oil towers and remove Russian radars from them. Then Russia was blind to threats coming from the West of Crimea. Lots of missile raids then happened on Crimea's radar stations and air defense systems. The damage to the static and road-mobile systems was so extensive that Russia had to bring in the A-50, but then they lost two of those.

All these losses have crippled their ability to watch the Ukrainian skies and look out for Ukrainian SAMs. And so Ukraine is on the verge of obtaining air superiority thanks to clever tactics and meticulous planning. Note however that I'm not taking about air supremacy; obtaining that is going to need more than tactic and planning.
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Drones can penetrate defenses and present themselves as targets to the Russian SAMs. Upon launch of missiles, they can change their signatures to mimic the A-50, so the missile cannot tell the drones apart from the aircraft, which makes the aircraft vulnerable.
 
randomradio said:
Drones can penetrate defenses and present themselves as targets to the Russian SAMs. Upon launch of missiles, they can change their signatures to mimic the A-50, so the missile cannot tell the drones apart from the aircraft, which makes the aircraft vulnerable.
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Holy crap, is Russian ECCM and radar technology so bad that a drone can successfully fool them into thinking it's an A-50? What about their IFF system? If this is true then it's pretty obvious they also shot down MH17, since their radars likely can't distinguish a Boeing 777 from a bat's crap.
 
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BMD said:
Holy crap, is Russian ECCM and radar technology so bad that a drone can successfully fool them into thinking it's an A-50? What about their IFF system? If this is true then it's pretty obvious they also shot down MH17, since their radars likely can't distinguish a Boeing 777 from a bat's crap.
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It's a new way of fighting, so SAM operators will need to learn and train how to deal with it.
 
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BMD said:
Only scan read it, but by 1991 India already had nukes, so signing the NPT was only asking them not to transfer that technology to other countries.
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No clue what you read there, but there's all that nonsense like invading Australia and trade blocking Japan. That's how nonsensical the West is when they speak.
 
randomradio said:
No clue what you read there, but there's all that nonsense like invading Australia and trade blocking Japan. That's how nonsensical the West is when they speak.
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You should listen to the crap your own government and media spout.
Rajput Lion said:
Is Macron so dumb? This wil start WW3 and Russia may annihilate France completely after this move.
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Putin invades and annexes a country but everyone else is dumb in India's opinion. :ROFLMAO:
 
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