Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Whether a peace deal is possible or not, a mediator is necessary, and that's only possible with India, 'cause both sides trust India, even the West.
I would say neither side does at this stage. That's the problkem with being neutral, it's a very weak blend, like Coffee Annan.
you dont need extensive resources to indulge in terrorism unlike fighting a war. They need very few ppl and financially cost them peanuts. More or less ukraine is coming to the table and their leverage over russia is terrorism. If russia doesnt accept their terms then attacks will continue.

This is exactly similar to what pakistan tried against India failed. Terrorism is not just a cheaper option but aslo has another benefit, ukraine while supporting the terrorists can act as if they have no control over them.
It achieves the exact opposite of what Ukraine needs, it puts more Russians on Putin's side. It's also not how Ukraine fight, everything they've targeted inside Russia has been military-related or economic infrastructure (oil and gas), with the odd political target mostly inside occupied territories.

Turns out it was ISIS-K anyway, i.e. Syria related.

 
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Turns out it was ISIS-K anyway, i.e. Syria related.


WHAT IS ISIS-K?​

Islamic State Khorasan (ISIS-K), named after an old term for the region that included parts of Iran, Turkmenistan and Afghanistan, emerged in eastern Afghanistan in late 2014 and quickly established a reputation for extreme brutality.

One of the most active regional affiliates of the Islamic State militant group, ISIS-K has seen its membership decline since peaking around 2018. The Taliban and U.S. forces inflicted heavy losses.
The United States has said its ability to develop intelligence against extremist groups in Afghanistan such as ISIS-K has been reduced since the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country in 2021.
 
I would say neither side does at this stage. That's the problkem with being neutral, it's a very weak blend, like Coffee Annan.

If they don't want peace, that's up to them. But they won't get anywhere on their own without a mediator at this point. The Russians got into the war because of France and Germany's failure at mediating the Minsk agreements.

It achieves the exact opposite of what Ukraine needs, it puts more Russians on Putin's side. It's also not how Ukraine fight, everything they've targeted inside Russia has been military-related or economic infrastructure (oil and gas), with the odd political target mostly inside occupied territories.

Turns out it was ISIS-K anyway, i.e. Syria related.


ISIS is yet to provide proof.

Election time after all.
 
After the latest attack on Moscow, Russia should stop this SMO crap and declare full-war on Ukraine and completely annihilate them without any Slav sympathy. They deserve this.
 
If they don't want peace, that's up to them. But they won't get anywhere on their own without a mediator at this point. The Russians got into the war because of France and Germany's failure at mediating the Minsk agreements.
The Minsk Agreements were just a tool for Russian to threaten away parts of Ukraine without fighting for them.

ISIS is yet to provide proof.
 
After the latest attack on Moscow, Russia should stop this SMO crap and declare full-war on Ukraine
Russia formally declared war yesterday, not that it hasn't been that for 18 months already. If it wasn't a war, very few historical wars would actually class as wars.


Very smart of them getting caught alive. Time for regret.
Assuming they're really suspects at all, this is Russia after all.
 
After the latest attack on Moscow, Russia should stop this SMO crap and declare full-war on Ukraine and completely annihilate them without any Slav sympathy. They deserve this.
Ukraine has no connection to the concert hall attack, it's not their style. The Russian Army and PMCs have intervened militarily in a number of Middle Eastern and African nations (Syria, Libya, Mali, Niger, Burkino Faso, CAR, Sudan). It's the same thing that happened to NATO countries with Al Quaeda and then ISIS. Russia also has disgruntled ethnic Chechens, Ingush, Dagestanis and Tajiks within its own borders who are being used as sausage meat. The potential culprit list is immense and Ukraine has exclusively hit military and supporting infrastructure targets in Russia. Putin has been playing chess on a global scale, except it isn't chess, because there are only two players in a game of chess.
 
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After the latest attack on Moscow, Russia should stop this SMO crap and declare full-war on Ukraine and completely annihilate them without any Slav sympathy. They deserve this.
Ukraine are already killing >1,000 Russians every day and destroying real military and economic assets, this mindless concert hall attack is insignifcant by comparison and the only one who benefits from it is Putin.

 
The Minsk Agreements were just a tool for Russian to threaten away parts of Ukraine without fighting for them.

Pretty much. But that's what the people in Donbas wanted too. It was their election mandate that was stolen in the 2013 coup.

It's like if the EU attacked the UK for the sake of stopping Brexit.


They have claimed it, but haven't yet provided proof, ie, images and videos of these attackers under the ISIS flag, or being given a sermon or peptalk by a known ISIS leader.

ISIS has a habit of claiming attacks they didn't do, like the attack on the gay bar in Orlando. Their logic is if a Muslim man attacked infidels, then it's the work of ISIS, as long as someone else didn't claim the attack with proof. It helps them recruit more.
 
Pretty much. But that's what the people in Donbas wanted too.
It wasn't, watch this series, especially episodes 8 and 9. It was completely coordinated by Russia.

It was their election mandate that was stolen in the 2013 coup.
Nope it was the other side's election mandate that was stolen by Yanukovych when he joined the EEU instead of the EU. His exact words in the 2010 campaign when he was elected (episode 9 of above series):

"Our priorities includes integration into the EU and a friendly and cooperative relationship with Russia." Putin blackmailed and bribed him away from that.

Believe it or not Medvedev was a reformer between 2008 and 20012 too. He went about exposing corruption, but that was pointing fingers at Putin, hence the huge protests in Russia in late 2011 and early 2012, when Putin stole Russia. Medvedev was then subjugated and became a drunk parrot.


You're on the wrong side.
It's like if the EU attacked the UK for the sake of stopping Brexit.
Which they didn't, so what's your point?
They have claimed it, but haven't yet provided proof, ie, images and videos of these attackers under the ISIS flag, or being given a sermon or peptalk by a known ISIS leader.

ISIS has a habit of claiming attacks they didn't do, like the attack on the gay bar in Orlando. Their logic is if a Muslim man attacked infidels, then it's the work of ISIS, as long as someone else didn't claim the attack with proof. It helps them recruit more.
So now them claiming it is no longer enough huh? 🤡 FSB likely funded the attack anyway, Putin wants to declare a full mobilisation and this attack only serves his interests. Ukraine is killing 8-10x as many Russian troops every day and taking out Russian oil and gas infrastructure and major military assets. This concert attack is insignificant and meaningless in terms of the Ukraine War, they would not waste resources on it.

There's a whole shitload you don't know about Putin, so stop pretending he's a saint, it just makes you look dumb. And also stop pretending you know anything about matters in Europe, which includes the European section of Russia.

 
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