Ukraine - Russia Conflict

EU: Did you do it?

China: No I didn't.

EU: OK, have a nice day.
They way to hurt them is to further increase tariffs on their BEV exports. Chinese BEV manufacturers are alreayd going tits up. I personally think the weapons are irrelevant, they should be sanctioned for providing the money that's keeping Russia's war going.

 


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Footage of the strike of the Russian kamikaze drone "Lancet-51" on the Ukrainian light MLRS Sivalka VM-5 in the Kursk region of Russia has been published. The Sivalka VM-5 MLRS is designed to support infantry during offensive operations and is equipped with 12-16 80 mm unguided S-8 aircraft rockets. Initially, the Sivalka VM-5 MLRS was created for special forces of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine. The firing range of the Sivalka VM-5 MLRS is up to 5 km, it can be installed on any chassis, but is usually placed on pickups.
As a result of the strike by the Lancet drone, the Sivalka VM-5 MLRS was damaged, and personnel were also injured.

 

Stupid, vindictive move.

There's not much a handful of conventionally-armed ballistic missiles can do at this point to change the course of the war - especially if they aren't going to be resupplied after Trump takes office in 2 months.

Allowing the usage of long range weapons (as well as continuing their supply) would've been a card that Trump could have used to bring Putin to the negotiating table. But now that card has been taken away and Russia can make steeper demands as US can no longer claim to be holding back.

Plus, the fact that this is a policy now associated with Biden, Trump is gonna definitely stop it. The net looser in all this is Ukraine.

No surprise though - anyone with a mind already knew that Biden's involvement in this war wasn't about defending Ukraine. It was about fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.
 
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It's a perfect move. Russia can't respond to it without risking any chance of a peace deal with Trump. And they deserve it for being war criminals.
 
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An episode of combat involving a Ukrainian M2A2 Bradley ODS-SA IFV, made in the United States. The video was filmed in the Pokrovsk direction, north of the village of Novogrodovka. The M2A2 Bradley IFV runs over a mine and begins firing circularly from a 25-mm M242 Bushmaster cannon. After which, having engaged reverse, the IFV runs over a mine again, after which part of the crew leaves the combat vehicle.

 
Footage of a Russian kamikaze drone "Lancet-51" striking a Ukrainian MLRS M142 HIMARS, made in the USA. The video was filmed near the settlement of Novosoloshino in the Zaporizhia region. The column, accompanied by two vehicles, was moving in an unknown direction, several drones were tracking the column. Despite the fact that the drone "Lancet" was aimed at the head of the HIMARS MLRS, the missiles did not detonate, since the MLRS was empty. The original video is cut off, the extent of the damage is unclear, in any case, the MLRS needs to be sent for repairs.

 
Why? They have two months to respond.
And a response could ruin any chance of a peace deal even under Trump. That is why they won't. Although hopefully they will respond, hopefully enough to bring a full NATO response too.

Come on, what is the worst a handful of conventional explosives can do at this point?
Remians to be seen.
 
And a response could ruin any chance of a peace deal even under Trump. That is why they won't. Although hopefully they will respond, hopefully enough to bring a full NATO response too.

They've been hitting Ukraine with all kinds of weapons already. Nothing's gonna change on the ground as far as Russians are concerned.

The problem is, US held a card up its sleeve till now which they could've used to exact better terms from Russia on the negotiating table. But Biden decided to play that card early, probably to spite Trump more than anything. This is petty & vindictive politics.

It won't change much on the ground, but it does mean the US has less cards to play. Biden is hurting Ukraine to get back at his domestic political rivals. That's very irresponsible behaviour, not fit for a statesman.

Trump doesn't have much to loose even if Russia gains more space in the negotiations because of this approval. But, it makes room for the Russians to get a better deal, which I suppose Biden thinks Democrats can then portray as a failure of Trump. Little do they know (probably cuz they're still stuck in the echo-chamber that costed them the election) that Trump doesn't really care for Ukraine, and Trump's electorate doesn't care either.

Even if the US leaves the conflict without achieving a peace deal (or a very lopsided deal that favours Russia greatly), Trump can still spin it as having saved billions for the US taxpayer and that alone will win him laurels with his vote base.
 
Mille jours de guerre en Ukraine : l'épuisement
A thousand days of war in Ukraine: exhaustion

The invasion of Ukraine has turned into a military, economic and geopolitical fiasco for Russia, but Kiev is on the verge of exhaustion, faced with an enemy four times its population. For the moment, there seems to be no prospect of a reasonable compromise.

The Russian army was supposed to be in Kiev in four days. A thousand days after the start of the invasion of Ukraine on Tuesday, it is still stalling in the Donbass. True, it is gobbling up nearly 15 km2 a day with its fearsome gliding bombs. And it will soon be able to call on 10,000 North Korean soldiers to make gains that the Kremlin hopes will be decisive between now and Donald Trump's arrival in the White House in two months' time, opening the door to the unknown.

Vladimir Putin, whose conviction, expressed in the summer of 2021, that ‘Russians and Ukrainians in fact form a single people occupying the same spiritual and historical space’ should have been a warning to Paris and Berlin in particular. The invasion, presented by its intelligence services as a walk in the park, turned into a fiasco.

Failure on all fronts

Within a thousand days, the Russian army had largely discredited itself against a much smaller opponent and had lost at least half of its operational armoured vehicles. Its kinjal missiles, supposedly impossible to intercept, are in fact impossible to intercept. A third of its Black Sea fleet has been sunk and the remaining ships no longer dare leave port. Western intelligence services also estimate that nearly 100,000 Russian soldiers have been killed and 300,000 wounded, a toll six times higher than that of ten years of conflict in Afghanistan.

Moscow has achieved virtually none of its objectives in Ukraine itself: although it annexed four regions in September 2021 - Kherson, Zaporizhia, Luhansk and Donetsk - it does not fully control any of them. It has obviously not succeeded in ‘denazifying’ the regime led by Volodymyr Zelensky, who happens to be of Jewish origin, as it claimed to be aiming to do. As for the geopolitical aspect, it is distressing. The Kremlin justified the invasion as a reaction to Ukraine's desire to join NATO. As a result, two neighbouring countries with very modern armies, Sweden and Finland, have renounced their long-standing neutrality in order to join the Atlantic Alliance, and Ukraine's accession process, de facto stalled since 2008, has been relaunched.

Of course, Moscow maintains that it is not as isolated as the West claims. While they condemned the Russian invasion at the UN General Assembly, the majority of countries in the South refused to follow the West in imposing sanctions on Russia. But as they are generally also exporters of raw materials, and therefore not very complementary to the Russian economy, they have little to sell or buy from it. Moscow, two-thirds of whose imports, particularly capital goods and high technology, came from the West before the conflict, is now forced to turn to China on a massive scale. And Russia even managed to antagonise Austria, which has been the most supportive Western country for half a century, by cutting off its gas supplies without warning on Saturday.

Ukraine exhausted

Thanks to an effective resistance that surprised most observers in the spring of 2022 and the supply of Western arms and munitions, Ukraine seems to be able to avoid losing the war... without actually winning it. It is unable to protect its energy infrastructure, which is targeted almost daily by Moscow. Its human losses are very high (at least 50,000 killed) and the demographic balance is not in its favour. The number of desertions has soared recently. The proportion of Ukrainians opposed to any territorial concessions in exchange for peace is falling steadily, although it remains above 58%.

‘Tatiana Kastoueva-Jean, a Russia specialist at the French Institute of International Relations, sums up: ‘The two protagonists are clearly exhausted. The Russian economy is under the illusion that it is doing well thanks to orders for the military-industrial complex, but interest rates are now in excess of 28%. Thanks to its legendary resilience, it will no doubt be able to support the war effort for another 18 to 24 months, depending on the specialists, but there is a risk that it will then collapse.

However, while everyone is talking about inevitable negotiations soon after Donald Trump's arrival in the White House, it is hard to see what compromise Kiev and Moscow might find, according to the researcher. The Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky, has for the first time stated that it is absolutely essential to end the war next year, suggesting that concessions may be inevitable. As an aside, many Ukrainians admit that the Donbass, destroyed and deserted by patriotic Ukrainians, is probably lost. But there is no question of giving up Zaporijia and Kherson, or giving up the prospect of joining NATO.

But the Kremlin also annexed Zaporizhia and Kherson, as well as Crimea, and the mere mention of the possibility of reversing this decision, which is enshrined in the Constitution, is worth five years in prison in Moscow. Not to mention the fact that Russia will never hand over any of the war criminals claimed by Kiev, nor is it prepared to pay the slightest financial compensation for the damage caused, in excess of 450 billion dollars according to the IMF. A compromise would therefore probably leave the burden of reconstruction to Western taxpayers. The final, dizzying lesson to be learned from a thousand days of fighting that is changing the face of the world is that if the United States does not succeed in preventing Russia from winning, any country neighbouring an acrimonious nuclear power in Asia, the Middle East or Europe will be strongly encouraged to acquire atomic bombs...
 
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They've been hitting Ukraine with all kinds of weapons already. Nothing's gonna change on the ground as far as Russians are concerned.

The problem is, US held a card up its sleeve till now which they could've used to exact better terms from Russia on the negotiating table. But Biden decided to play that card early, probably to spite Trump more than anything. This is petty & vindictive politics.
Now there's irony, an opponent of Trump being accused of petty and vindictive politics. :ROFLMAO: It's like Trump's speciality. And no, this is a good time to play the card, although it should have been played from 2022.
It won't change much on the ground, but it does mean the US has less cards to play. Biden is hurting Ukraine to get back at his domestic political rivals. That's very irresponsible behaviour, not fit for a statesman.
They have a lot of cards to play, they can increase the production and supply of weapons to Ukraine, provide Tomahawks, which now have ground launchers as do SM-6s. JASSM-ERs, including D vaersion for F-16s (1,200km range). JASSM-XR - 1,900+km range. AARGM-ER.... Anything up to direct NATO airstrikes on Russia, which we are more than legally entitled to do.
Trump doesn't have much to loose even if Russia gains more space in the negotiations because of this approval. But, it makes room for the Russians to get a better deal, which I suppose Biden thinks Democrats can then portray as a failure of Trump. Little do they know (probably cuz they're still stuck in the echo-chamber that costed them the election) that Trump doesn't really care for Ukraine, and Trump's electorate doesn't care either.
Zero logic to that statement.
Even if the US leaves the conflict without achieving a peace deal (or a very lopsided deal that favours Russia greatly), Trump can still spin it as having saved billions for the US taxpayer and that alone will win him laurels with his vote base.
Penny-wise, pound-stupid. How's he going to spin the job losses?
 
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